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    Re: Naruto Manga 441 Predictions / 440 Discussion

    damnnn :D do you no how long i've been waiting for this i understand everything guys im serious i get it minato is so smart the 4th to if people new naruto was the 4th son there would be no naruto right now oro or some other vilan would of try to take the 9tails fox l somebody said something about hinata back when she got kidnap body your 100% right + now i no what itachi give naruto like im possitive now madara is invisible he beat the 4th almost killed the 1th and can even manipulate a strong guy like pain so my guess his cleary itachi new naruto was the 4th son and gave him a power to stop madara sasuke left the village so he give it to naruto instead im mean his the heart of konoah and itachi could tell if you get what im saying please tell me what you think about all this
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 441 Predictions / 440 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Diabolus View Post
    No Naruto saw pein killing all his friend and his wilage he cant forgive him
    It's not really about forgiveness ... it's about ending the chain of hatred / revenge .. that has to start somewhere ... where better then between Naruto and Pain ? It is a very hard dissision to make yes but I think Naruto understands now thats what it means to grow up and make those kinds of dissisions .... his father belived in him .. those were his last words so dispite what Naruto wants to do to Pain I think he will start breaking the chain of revenge / hatred with Pain. Pain will not fully understand this so he will leave Konoha and Akasuki. No I don't think he will start to become a good guy or want to help rebuild Konoha but I think he will leave " his dream of peace, Jiraya's dream , Minoto's and many, others " with Naruto to bring about. The real fight will be with Itachi is what I think.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 441 Predictions / 440 Discussion

    I also believe this b/c it would not only awnsering Pain with words but by allowing him to live , he would let Pain feel what its like not to go threw with revenge which is in itself a deeper more personal feeling for Pain simple b/c he will be able to feel it I think rather then just hear it.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 441 Predictions / 440 Discussion

    My prediction:

    1)Now it's turn of Nagato to be confused.

    2)Naruto might try to ask him about masked Akatsuki and tell him that he is being manipulated.

    3)Naruto will not kill him. He can die by himself after spending too much chakra or others would step in. Or Nagato may go back to Madara accusing him of manipulating himself and Madara may get rid of him. The last is too far fetched but...yeah.

    4)Naruto will share the new inforamtion with his collegues.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 441 Predictions / 440 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Kunaindahead View Post
    The big questions is, why did Pains just stood there while Naruto/fox was breaking free? Maybe, he's at his limit? Just look back. All Pain did was, wow and just watched.

    Another question is, will the jutsu/moon be a permanent moon? Or will it fall down once Nagato dies?
    pein thought he had naruto captured.... thats why....lol...
    hes even talkin bout hes gonna need more chakra for a bigger type jutsu....

    that moon jutsu will proly be summin else.... i dont even think he can do it...
    he jus stated the 1st rin user could do it...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 441 Predictions / 440 Discussion

    I loved the chapter! Everyone complaining there would just be talking when the spoilers were released. I loved it, I liked Narutos look when he learnt the Fourth is his dad.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 441 Predictions / 440 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by meercy View Post
    pein thought he had naruto captured.... thats why....lol...
    hes even talkin bout hes gonna need more chakra for a bigger type jutsu....

    that moon jutsu will proly be summin else.... i dont even think he can do it...
    he jus stated the 1st rin user could do it...

    This moon is going to crumble- it has to be sent into a geo-stationary orbit to be designated as moon. I doubt Nagato has that much chakra left. I feel like sending him a sandwitch. He may act more reasonably once he gets some food in his belly.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 441 Predictions / 440 Discussion

    i really loved 440, i think after minato told naruto that he has confidence in him, naruto will be more driven to defeat pein and reach his goal to becoming hokage

    u go naruto! ;D
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 441 Predictions / 440 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by voltsgm View Post
    Minato says Madara predict all his moviments.... OMG!
    well yondaime did say this. but he said he was fighting the fox, so madara must have been using the fox to fight the 4th. so the 4th was trying to kill the fox but couldn't because madara was reading his movements and using the fox to counter them.

    i still say yondaime is stronger than madara. and the only reason madara has space/time ninjutsu is because of watching the 4th fight the fox.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 441 Predictions / 440 Discussion

    very touchy, drama and amazing chapter. theres alot of questions have been clearly answered from this episodes. from half chakra to whos really behind this. now naruto knows all of this.

    and even naruto wins from this fight, and if the rest A-gang with tobi/madara + hebi team will invade konoha, can they survive? unless naruto can convince nagato that he is being used by tobi/madara he might change his mind and help naruto instead?

    and who other countries/villages would willing to help? sand village, i supposed.

    great chapter, next chapter will be like "fight and talk" again.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 441 Predictions / 440 Discussion

    naruto needs to learn that teleportation did by his dad by just clicking his finger.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 441 Predictions / 440 Discussion

    madara using the fox to counter yondaime's jutsu is the same as when sasuke and lee fought. even though later in the fight sasuke could read lee's movements, his body wasn't fast enough to counter lee's attacks.

    so even though madara could read yondaime's movements he still couldn't keep up with yondaime's body which is why he used the fox to fight the 4th.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 441 Predictions / 440 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Diabolus View Post
    And Minato said if People knew you were my son there might be trouble what trouble he didnt answer our question why did the keep the secret about being his dad
    Probably for Naruto not to childly boast about it, in that way everyone else would have known.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 441 Predictions / 440 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushina Uzuma View Post
    I think it didn't sound like a Goodbye, nothing of that kind, I suppose, that he'll be forever in naruto's mind, no goodbyes...at least, there is no background for them in the chat
    That's not awesome, it means Naruto will never be alone... and have no privacy.

    Maybe if his chakra is out, he won't appear again. Which means he will not live inside Naruto.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 441 Predictions / 440 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Steinbiz View Post
    well yondaime did say this. but he said he was fighting the fox, so madara must have been using the fox to fight the 4th. so the 4th was trying to kill the fox but couldn't because madara was reading his movements and using the fox to counter them.

    i still say yondaime is stronger than madara. and the only reason madara has space/time ninjutsu is because of watching the 4th fight the fox.
    agree! i don't think Madara is stronger than the 4th; about the space/time ninjutsu probably madara copied from the fourth. it is just like CELL in Dragonballz who copy the instant transmisssion from Goku.

    Plus, when the 4th sealed the fox into naruto, i think madara also lost some of his chakra (half of it goes to yin or yang whatever this thing are) otherwise madara will not retreat.... and the victory goes to yondaime.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 441 Predictions / 440 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by dbzboy300 View Post
    agree! i don't think Madara is stronger than the 4th; about the space/time ninjutsu probably madara copied from the fourth. it is just like CELL in Dragonballz who copy the instant transmisssion from Goku.

    Plus, when the 4th sealed the fox into naruto, i think madara also lost some of his chakra (half of it goes to yin or yang whatever this thing are) otherwise madara will not retreat.... and the victory goes to yondaime.
    I don't think that the 4th's Space / time Jutsu Body Flicker is copyable by the Sharigan. Normally to summon something you have to have a contract which is why Summonings envolving contracts aren't copy able by sharingan. If a sharigan user got a hold of the contract then it would be different. Now I know body flicker doesn't envolve a contract but from my understanding of it .. it does envolve a seal of some sort being placed on an item or area first and then you summon yourself to that seal or area where the seal is placed. Not sure where I read that but I did. So the sharigan user would have to know first off the way the placeing of the seals works before he could copy the jutsu. Something that also suports this " summoning to a seal " is when he gives Kakashi that special kunai with writting on it .. could be that he used that as the item he summoned himself too. I also read that he used to throw those Kunai in large battles and summon himself to them whiles killing Shinobi ... but again not sure where I read it. If it is just a regular hand signs Jutsu though then it would be copyable.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 441 Predictions / 440 Discussion

    I think we have forgotten that Madara is able to change his body in another dimension so that any attacks will just go right thru him. Plus he is able to teleport and has the power Itachi had. Madara is way more powerful than Nagato if you think about it. Nagato has a lot of chakra, that's all. But in a fight between Madara and Pain, I think Madara will win because any attacks from Pain will go right thru Madara. Madara has the ultimate defense/untouchable. Plus there might be more powers that we don't know Madara has. Right now Naruto, even with his current power, can't stand against Madara.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 441 Predictions / 440 Discussion

    Great chapter, although I expected some action. What a coward!! Madara could not beat the Fourth Hokage himself so he used the kyuubi instead to attack the village!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 441 Predictions / 440 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi Sama View Post
    Great chapter, although I expected some action. What a coward!! Madara could not beat the Fourth Hokage himself so he used the kyuubi instead to attack the village!
    tru that...now the battle rages on but with a bit of a twist now naruto knows wat to do (in my opinion)
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 441 Predictions / 440 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by glenfosterjr View Post
    This manga was what I had hoped for... Naruto has his will back and will be a force to be reckoned with. I know that everybody was hoping for the 4th to give him his special Kunai but dont forget. Kakashi is probably still alive and he and naruto will talk after this big fight and he will be the one to give naruto the kunai at least that what I think. As far as the finale fight between pain and naruto goes. naruto will own pain. After the fight and god realm is hanging on by a thread naruto will tell pain about what his father said about the fox attack and how he is being used only for madara ambitions. I also think that later in the manga naruto will somehow meet Sasuke and repeat the same words as Itachi and sasuke will leave akatsuki and join Naruto in the final fight against madara.
    i agree with most of that, not so much that last bit about sasuke, but everything about kakashi givin him the full story and naruto coming to some understanding with nagato (he did want to hear his answer after all..) i think that minato's belief that he's being used is right on since he is so susceptible, and because madara is so powerful, i think he may have been the one who put nagato onto all the powers of the rin'negan, which means that madara may know of it's only weakness (it's got to have one or two right?)
    but to the point: i dont think naruto will absolutely OwN pain. i mean, am i the only one who heard him say that he may have to make a bigger chibaku tensei?? we all could tell how much chakra that took, and the fact that he's not batting an eye at the suggestion that he may make another one must mean that he at least has enough to make it and still drag the fox home. now that he no longer has to battle the fox though i'm sure he has plenty of chakra to make the battle very.. satisfying

    but who knows.. maybe the sage-mode-naruto-heir may be tougher

    oh, and i'm coining that acronym: SNM--i mean S.M.N.H. lol
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 441 Predictions / 440 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Steinbiz View Post
    madara using the fox to counter yondaime's jutsu is the same as when sasuke and lee fought. even though later in the fight sasuke could read lee's movements, his body wasn't fast enough to counter lee's attacks.

    so even though madara could read yondaime's movements he still couldn't keep up with yondaime's body which is why he used the fox to fight the 4th.
    i don't think he actually meant "saw through everything i did" as just his yellow flash jutsu, i think he meant that he was no match for madara's true power, which would explain why he would sacrifice himself in the hopes that his "heir" could defeat him with the same power he used to attack the village. minato was probably thinking "if this masked fellow is this powerful and is using the nine tails, then he must respect kyuubi's power, which means if i have that power, or give it to my son, then he will definitely be a force to be reckoned with and may even have a chance at.."
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 441 Predictions / 440 Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by pandaLion View Post
    i don't think he actually meant "saw through everything i did" as just his yellow flash jutsu, i think he meant that he was no match for madara's true power, which would explain why he would sacrifice himself in the hopes that his "heir" could defeat him with the same power he used to attack the village. minato was probably thinking "if this masked fellow is this powerful and is using the nine tails, then he must respect kyuubi's power, which means if i have that power, or give it to my son, then he will definitely be a force to be reckoned with and may even have a chance at.."
    I totally agree with you. Madara is by far the strongest. He has over 100 years to learn new jutsus. Right now we know attacks by Naruto went right thru him. So, Madara has the ultiamte defense, teleportation and Sharingan powers. and may be more. Itachi was around 20+ years old and so he didn't have that much time to learn more jutsu. Naruto needs to super charge himself with more power to have any chance against Madara.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 441 Predictions / 440 Discussion

    As I came home from work and turned on my PC, I couldn't believe when I saw that the chapter was out!!!

    - It astounds me that Naruto didn't suspect that the 4th was his father. then again nothing really surprises with naruto the number one....etc.

    - the chapter was very good, some points explained. But basically I feel that Minato just gave Naruto a morale boost rather than a lot of info, intel, etc.

    - like someone said before, now we have to wonder what exactly are madara's true intentions, cause obviously he's been lying. We even have to wonder about the whole Itachi story.

    - I expected more info from Minato, specially regarding Naruto's background.

    - I don't think we will be seing Minato anymore in Naruto's head.

    - it is really weird that Minato was the whole time with Naruto whatching what was going on.

    - he couldhave entrusted naruto with some powers to boot other than the fox.

    - it was cool to see how the 4th was really smart, he imprisioned the fox so naruto would have a chance to fight madara in the future...man, talk about planning ahead!!! 16yrs...

    - I think the final fight will take another 2 chapters, cause Pein still has something up his sleeve.

    Anyways, I just read the chapter, so the ideas are still raw.
    Will come back when I have read it careflly.

    Peace.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 441 Predictions / 440 Discussion

    I got a question...ok so only half of the kyuubi's chakra was sealed within naruto right???....so where on earth is the other half...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 441 Predictions / 440 Discussion

    im thinking why didnt minato say anything about naruto's mother or maybe he didnt have the time. maybe minato sealed the other half of the fox chakra inside naruto's mother whats here name again forgot. so he sealed half of it inside his son and the other half inside his wife thats fair and makes sence. but then again maybe she is dead after all dont really know this series is getting complicated by each chapter but trust me this manga has a long way to go.
     
         

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