Minato is actually weaker than a lot of Naruto Characters.

[NarutoMinato]

pretty good points. His defense in indeed remarkable. but still how would be beat someone with susanoo and powerful recuperating abilities?

Did anyone has a clue, how is he going to touch Tobi?

[Uzumaki16]

Tobi? i consider the new tobi extremely op


but sharingan tobi,

firstly- It wasn't exactly kyuubi + tobi vs minato...

kyuubi was attacking the village

so it was tobi vs minato, and tobi's only jutsu was that space time thing he usees.. which is incredibly op to any normal ninja.. but minato had a counter.. that match was situational like kisame vs gai... with tobi only using 1 move, and minato having a counter to that 1 move , which is a faster s/t than tobi's

but as i said.. If it was tobi + kyuubi , vs minato.. the match would have went differently.. He wouldn't have the time to do all gamabunta stuff.. and he'd eventually run out of chakra from teleporting tbbs away and dodging



but current tobi will destroy minato easily.. rinnegan and bijuu's? easy

Not really, if he teleported TBB back at Kyubi, Kyubi would collapse, Naruto's Rasenshuriken made him unable to stand when Naruto fought him, TBB could knock him out( bijuu can be knocked out as the Three Tails was by Deidara) removing Kurama from the battle, , and bringing it to Tobi Vs Minato and we all know how that turns out.
Again I ask, how would. Hashirama, Hiruzen and Madara survive the combo I linked you to?

[NarutoMinato]

Tobi? i consider the new tobi extremely op


but sharingan tobi,

firstly- It wasn't exactly kyuubi + tobi vs minato...

kyuubi was attacking the village

so it was tobi vs minato, and tobi's only jutsu was that space time thing he usees.. which is incredibly op to any normal ninja.. but minato had a counter.. that match was situational like kisame vs gai... with tobi only using 1 move, and minato having a counter to that 1 move , which is a faster s/t than tobi's

but as i said.. If it was tobi + kyuubi , vs minato.. the match would have went differently.. He wouldn't have the time to do all gamabunta stuff.. and he'd eventually run out of chakra from teleporting tbbs away and dodging



but current tobi will destroy minato easily.. rinnegan and bijuu's? easy

I dont think so that it is a fair comparison, Tobi lived 16 years more, learnt more and improved more.

[Owarij]

I dont think so that it is a fair comparison, Tobi lived 16 years more, learnt more and improved more.

i knw its not fair to put minato up against new tobi

but old tobi had nothing.. s/t and some chains...

[kendell]

Sure the yellow flash is one of the fastest shinobis in Narutoverse. However, what he really lacks is a powerful move. So far from what we've seen the strongest weapons in his arsenal are his kunai and the rasengan. Meaning he can get behind his opponent in the blink of an eye and stab 'em with his kunai. This might be quite effective against some of the characters in Naruto. However, this puts Minato in a bad spot against the top tier naruto characters such as the kages, akatsuki members like orochimaru, itachi, pain and Madara Uchiha and Even Biiju Naruto. Rasengan, as we have seen, has been countered thousands of times in naruto. There are so many characters that can simply withstand it. For example, orochimaru can easily withstand a kunai attack or a rasengan thanks to his regenerative abilities. Minato can keep chopping him off all day but he will just keep coming out of his shells. Sage Kabuto is another character that will annihilate minato in terms of feats. Minato can rasengan him all day but he will just keep healing himself. Ninjutsu is useless against edo madara so minato will have to take him down with power moves. The problem is minato doesn't have any. Like he doesn't have any moves that will break the susanoo. Strength is a feat he seems to lack as well. Now I have no doubt in Minato's superior intellect and I can guarantee he will find a way to score a direct hit on any opponent. The only problem is that hit may not be enough to finish off some of the top rank shinobies. And that makes minato a weak match against them. Sure minato can defeat kakashi and the jonins of leaf village and even jiraiya(because he died cause of the chakra rod stab wound from pain minato can stab him too even in sage mode) with his speed. But against some characters with high defenses, hes just useless. Its a shame he had to die so early cause I am sure he would of perfected his rasengan and chakra affinity if he lived but the fact remains, Minato does not have a high power ninja move.

I had to log in just to say please read the maga over again i'm sure yopu miss something. one more thing are u on crack, no one can beat the four

[NarutoMinato]

i knw its not fair to put minato up against new tobi

but old tobi had nothing.. s/t and some chains...

I would say that Tobi couldnt show much because he didnt expect Minato to beat him so easily in an instant. Had it been a longer fight we would have seen many jutsu from Tobi.

[gazmatic]

if Minato had the sage mode, that would be a total rape. But I highly doubt if he had it.

I think he would have sage mode. of all the people who entered the frog world only the successful ones come out. failures turn to stone. atleast this is what i get from the manga... Minato as a hokage must know plenty jutsu... point is, we never saw them but it is certain that he has them.

anyway no one can top SO6P and the bijuus practically acknowledged naruto as his reincarnation or something. wat doz dis havta do wid de minato being strong/weak argument? nothing really. i jus wanted people to read all the mangas before they post. :flaw:

[xxSAGExx]

Sure the yellow flash is one of the fastest shinobis in Narutoverse. However, what he really lacks is a powerful move. So far from what we've seen the strongest weapons in his arsenal are his kunai and the rasengan. Meaning he can get behind his opponent in the blink of an eye and stab 'em with his kunai. This might be quite effective against some of the characters in Naruto. However, this puts Minato in a bad spot against the top tier naruto characters such as the kages, akatsuki members like orochimaru, itachi, pain and Madara Uchiha and Even Biiju Naruto. Rasengan, as we have seen, has been countered thousands of times in naruto. There are so many characters that can simply withstand it. For example, orochimaru can easily withstand a kunai attack or a rasengan thanks to his regenerative abilities. Minato can keep chopping him off all day but he will just keep coming out of his shells. Sage Kabuto is another character that will annihilate minato in terms of feats. Minato can rasengan him all day but he will just keep healing himself. Ninjutsu is useless against edo madara so minato will have to take him down with power moves. The problem is minato doesn't have any. Like he doesn't have any moves that will break the susanoo. Strength is a feat he seems to lack as well. Now I have no doubt in Minato's superior intellect and I can guarantee he will find a way to score a direct hit on any opponent. The only problem is that hit may not be enough to finish off some of the top rank shinobies. And that makes minato a weak match against them. Sure minato can defeat kakashi and the jonins of leaf village and even jiraiya(because he died cause of the chakra rod stab wound from pain minato can stab him too even in sage mode) with his speed. But against some characters with high defenses, hes just useless. Its a shame he had to die so early cause I am sure he would of perfected his rasengan and chakra affinity if he lived but the fact remains, Minato does not have a high power ninja move.

I disagree, we never seen Minato fight a full out battle to see what he can really do. When Tobi attacked Konoha Minato was saving Naruto, Kushina, the village, beat Tobi then sealed Kurama. Of course we wouldn't see his stronger jutsus, he used what would benefit him in that situation. Minato is able to cut through most of Bee's tentacle in the air without any leverage so he's strong enough to cut off body parts. Sealing jutsus are the strongest jutsus out there and Minato knows the sealing jutsus from the Uzumaki clan which was destroyed because of said sealing jutsus. Also it's still unclear if Minato had sage mode or not, he didn't really have time to stand still when so much was happening during Tobi's attack.

It was said Minato never mastered the rasengan because he never manage to add his element to it but it doesn't say Minato couldn't use oodama rasengan, ultra oodama rasengan, ect... As for healing abilities, we saw how a basic rasengan left Kabuto who was healing himself even before he was hit. This means Orochimaru would still feel the damage for Minato's rasengan ( basic rasengan is bigger/stronger than Naruto's or Jiraiya) and sheding his skin uses a lot of chakra and can't be spammed. Edo's weakness is sealing jutsus so Minato speed, genius and sealing jutsus will aid him.

[SupErAkaTsuKI]

Tobi? i consider the new tobi extremely op


but sharingan tobi,

firstly- It wasn't exactly kyuubi + tobi vs minato...

kyuubi was attacking the village

so it was tobi vs minato, and tobi's only jutsu was that space time thing he usees.. which is incredibly op to any normal ninja.. but minato had a counter.. that match was situational like kisame vs gai... with tobi only using 1 move, and minato having a counter to that 1 move , which is a faster s/t than tobi's

but as i said.. If it was tobi + kyuubi , vs minato.. the match would have went differently.. He wouldn't have the time to do all gamabunta stuff.. and he'd eventually run out of chakra from teleporting tbbs away and dodging



but current tobi will destroy minato easily.. rinnegan and bijuu's? easy

tell me how do u consider old Tobi?

As far as I can remember, dis is d old Tobi dat lead AKATSUKI, who gave orders to NAgato or any oder members, & to whom Itachi states to be invincible & immortal..

Old sharingan Tobi isn't only capable of a S/T ninjutsu. As we've witnessed he can cast powerful genjutsu enough to control a perfect jinchuriki, d 9-tailed demon fox & can also perform IZANAGI.. If he ddn't used any of dis jutsu's against Minato, den it wasn't his fault!!

Regardless if d situation was Tobi+Kyubi vs. Minato, or Tobi vs. Minato, or Minato vs d Kyubi, at d end of d fight, d 4th owned dem & saved d hidden leaf village.

Current Tobi will destroy Minato easily? Old Tobi had d kyubi -(d most powerful amongst ol d tailed beast) during dat tym but didn't manage to injure Minato dat much..

So far we don't know much about Minato's true power, strength & ability.. As we lack knowledge about this matter it isn't safe to go 4 dis assumptions..

[Kakashi Fang]

True

[sarutobi01843]

I have already acknowledged that fact 3 times on this thread.

Minato as a hokage is suppose to know 1000 jutsu's due to plot no jutsu we didnt get to see what ohter techs he had but remember due to the situation what he showed was the ability to decipher what course of action to take in a bad situation and the ability to figure out your opponents next move is greater the having a bunch of techs trust me we may not have seen much but minato is a lot stronger then what we have seen!!!!! It just sucks that he died so early and we didnt get to see his abilities

[Darth Wignus]

Not having a huge finisher isn't really a huge deal. Lost of ninjas don't have a huge finisher but they get the job done using a ton of other skills.

[Viewtiful]

Here's what Jiraiya has to say about Minato's skill and potential:

"I'd say being compared to the Fourth would be harsh on anyone, right. Anyhow, that guy's calibre as a shinobi was number one in history… His brilliant mind was overflowing with talent for techniques… He had popularity galore. Well… he was as handsome a man as I am, no." (「四代目と比べられりゃ誰だってキ� ��イだろーよ。なんせ あやつは忍としての器は歴代一だっ� �…術の才に溢れ頭脳明晰…人望に満� ��、まぁ…ワシ並みに男前だったしの ォ」, "Yondaime to kuraberarerya dare datte kitsui darō yo. Nanse, ayatsu wa shinobi toshite no utsuwa wa rekidaiichi datta… Jutsu no sai ni afure zunō meiseki… Jinbō ni michi, maa… Washi nami ni otokomae datta shi no~")

He says he had the potential to surpass everyone in history (certainly barring the Sage), hence the word "calibre". Even Tsunade agreed with that statement, but asserted his early death as the culprit of not fully fulfilling said potential.

[phantomlord22]

This is just crazy...

[Mante]

Well, there is a reason why he became hokage - also he beated Tobi
btw ur post has a point after-all.

[★Super Shino mu]

I think he would have sage mode. of all the people who entered the frog world only the successful ones come out. failures turn to stone. atleast this is what i get from the manga... Minato as a hokage must know plenty jutsu... point is, we never saw them but it is certain that he has them.

anyway no one can top SO6P and the bijuus practically acknowledged naruto as his reincarnation or something. wat doz dis havta do wid de minato being strong/weak argument? nothing really. i jus wanted people to read all the mangas before they post. :flaw:

if Minato did his sage training at Mt Myoboku, at least they would have mentioned it once during Naruto's sage training. The geezer sage was constantly comparing Naruto's growth with Jiraiya but he never said anything about Minato.

[Viewtiful]

if Minato did his sage training at Mt Myoboku, at least they would have mentioned it once during Naruto's sage training. The geezer sage was constantly comparing Naruto's growth with Jiraiya but he never said anything about Minato.

He was comparing him to Jiraiya because Jiraiya was unable to master Sage Mode, alluding to him surpassing him. He does mention surpassing Minato and Jiraiya later, though it's unclear if he meant in his mastery of Sage Mode:

[★Super Shino mu]

He was comparing him to Jiraiya because Jiraiya was unable to master Sage Mode, alluding to him surpassing him. He does mention surpassing Minato and Jiraiya later, though it's unclear if he meant in his mastery of Sage Mode:

i think it was Tsunade who saw the shadow of Minato and Jiraiya in Naruto.

[Viewtiful]

i think it was Tsunade who saw the shadow of Minato and Jiraiya in Naruto.

Um, no. Try reading that again. Gamabunta asked Fukasaku if he saw those apparitions behind Naruto, to which he responded yes and that he'd surpassed them in some way.

[Dribbles]

This thread is fail. Lets not forget Minato mastered the rasengan, which means his more proficient at using the base rasengan the naruto.

He can create the rasengan with one hand, as seen in the minato vs tobi fight, he created one in a matter of milliseconds. His rasengan was shown to be alot larger then the base rasengan, and alot more powerful. Rasengan is the HIGHEST form of chakra manipulation, meaning its an extremely powerful move. And honestly, the only way anyone in the manga has shown to be able to take a hit from any rasengan, is either an extremely powerful defense, or amazing healing abilities. Minato uses hardly an chakra when using his attacks, he could outlast many people in the manga.

Stop the underrating of Minato, what we've seen from him so far, is so simple, yet so effective. Theres sooo much we havnt seen from Minato, if yous keep underrating him your just fueling the Minato fanboys to explode, and when we see Minatos new jutsu the NB is gonna be spammed with useless threads, like when Itachi got izanami 'Oh his unbeatable!' Go away pls (:

[kyubbi sagemode]

so how do you think minato would outsmart sm kabuto and beat him? Kabuto cant heal in seconds so none of minato's attacks would do any good. Kabuto can simply liquify when hit by kunai and withstand rasengan.

He can seal him dingggg

[Pepsilover]

It is true that we have seen so little of Minato.

There are many that seem stronger then him and I can name a few myself.

I don't think there are lots of them.

Look at those who he has fought.

Tobi was no problem and tobi could not even use his izanagi before it was over and he was both hurt and lost control of kurama. (Tobi which faced konan, kakahi+several others and dazo elite ninjas ) We can even assume tobi lost confidence in his ability and hid in the shadows for so long as a result.

Raikage A and B. Well that was easy... But I still believe raikage is able to take on Minato if he was not so hot headed. (Raikage which nearly killed sasuke when he was in sussano mode by only at risk at loosing an arm and leg.)

Whole army within short time. Enough said there.

Kurama. While he did not fight him directly he was able to both stall him, make kurama blast meaningless, protect his village from him. Is that a small feat?

He needed Kurama for the village to keep the balance. Who is to say he could not have means to keep him at bay until he is sealed or seal him himself? Yes that is only a speculation and we should not assume he could. Just like we should not assume other characters can take Minato with ease.

So far, he has ftg jutsu, rasengan, bunch of sealing jutsus, time barrier justu, barrier jutsu and sensor ability by using his ftg tech(can sense anything that goes by near his markings..)

ftg is one of the most powerful jutsu out there and there are not many who are able to counter this. Yes I sound like a fan but that is the truth.


So who are those who currently can take him down.

That's simple.

Those who are able to counter for all of those markings.

Kisame is the worst opponent Minato could face. Gaara is not a good match for minato either as rasengan might not be strong enough.

3rd raikage, enough said.

Current Madara, nagato, tobi, kabuto(if edo is ready),danzo with KA converts Minato to his cause(unless he can avoid it by simply not looking into his eye), naruto(clones), harashima(? not sure about him, but I have to assume that even if I don't know anything about him)... Any more who have 360° defense and have offensive ability against his markings?


How would you fight ftg tech with your favorite character?

[OG9TAILS]

Quick question, How do create a thread I know how to blog but I can't find an option for creating a thread.

[Pepsilover]

Quick question, How do create a thread I know how to blog but I can't find an option for creating a thread.

Click on the "Forums" link at the right of "Home"

Click on the topic which you think your thread belongs to. (Maybe it is general discussion) and scroll down and click "new thread" or something like that. Good luck

[Akothari94]

well according to me we have not seen many of minato's moves,that is why it is hard to comment on his strength