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    Looks guys, you're all about "OMG I IZ WAITING 2 MONTHS FOR DIS SHIZ AND NO TRAINING YET!!!!"

    It took me 8 months to finish Doton, and in total a year to finish all of it. I mean, honestly, it took me 6 months to finish nin, gen, tai. How can you complain after 2 months?

    So, you don't disrespect senseis/sempais?
    By suggesting this, you deem yourself, or who ever you want to teach you, eligible for things they are not eligible. That in itself alone is an indirect insult, as we've faced situations to attain or positions, while you would not have. And, if you would, it would just be the same as letting a sensei take more than one sempai. Not a solution either.
     
         

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    Re: Students training Students

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesobi View Post
    Looks guys, you're all about "OMG I IZ WAITING 2 MONTHS FOR DIS SHIZ AND NO TRAINING YET!!!!"

    It took me 8 months to finish Doton, and in total a year to finish all of it. I mean, honestly, it took me 6 months to finish nin, gen, tai. How can you complain after 2 months?

    So, you don't disrespect senseis/sempais?
    By suggesting this, you deem yourself, or who ever you want to teach you, eligible for things they are not eligible. That in itself alone is an indirect insult, as we've faced situations to attain or positions, while you would not have. And, if you would, it would just be the same as letting a sensei take more than one sempai. Not a solution either.
    It took me more than 6 month to reach the C-ranks in Doton, and i'm still at C-rank and not complaining.
    People need to chill and stop making the RP their only online occupation.
     
         

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    Re: Students training Students

    Read the title...

    no.

    Read first page.

    no.

    Myself as a sempai know that training isnt that tough to find. I am often busy and now understand what many go through having to teach others. I see a lot of people fight and use wrong jutsus or just read the discription without actually knowledge on using it... Quite humiliating and this si with someone capable teaching you lol imagine someone incapable, the newest gen would be horrendous so my answer is no. Also then we would have more sempais or teachers then students.
     
         

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    Re: Students training Students

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesobi View Post
    Looks guys, you're all about "OMG I IZ WAITING 2 MONTHS FOR DIS SHIZ AND NO TRAINING YET!!!!"

    It took me 8 months to finish Doton, and in total a year to finish all of it. I mean, honestly, it took me 6 months to finish nin, gen, tai. How can you complain after 2 months?

    So, you don't disrespect senseis/sempais?
    By suggesting this, you deem yourself, or who ever you want to teach you, eligible for things they are not eligible. That in itself alone is an indirect insult, as we've faced situations to attain or positions, while you would not have. And, if you would, it would just be the same as letting a sensei take more than one sempai. Not a solution either.
    Quote Originally Posted by 'Kurapika View Post
    It took me more than 6 month to reach the C-ranks in Doton, and i'm still at C-rank and not complaining.
    People need to chill and stop making the RP their only online occupation.
    Once again I did not mean for it in that way. I am not complaining either. I just thought some sempais could have used some help to ease out their training schedules and seen how difficult it is for the new rpers to find an available sempai. I managed to find sempais for my elements and i am very grateful for that. All this thread was supposed to be was just an idea to have the RP community discuss. Do most disagree? Yes and I respect that. This was simply just a suggestion, not a rule.
     
         

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    Re: Students training Students

    Quote Originally Posted by Dupa View Post
    Once again I did not mean for it in that way. I am not complaining either. I just thought some sempais could have used some help to ease out their training schedules and seen how difficult it is for the new rpers to find an available sempai. I managed to find sempais for my elements and i am very grateful for that. All this thread was supposed to be was just an idea to have the RP community discuss. Do most disagree? Yes and I respect that. This was simply just a suggestion, not a rule.
    My comment wasn't directed towards you, sorry if it seemed that way.
     
         

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    Re: Students training Students

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorps View Post
    I know right? :roll eyes:


    I understand it might not be as easy as everyone wants but we have now more senseis and senpais than it has ever been in NB's RP.

    I'm an RP mod, sensei, been a senpai, been a student, been no one in the forum. Perhaps not all people know but i started RPing a not even a year ago.

    http://www.narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72836 this was my first bio. Notice the date... 4th of May 2011.

    In less than a year i mastered basic 5, ninjutsu, genjutsu, taijutsu, gentle fist, wood, fuuin and i am receiving medical training.

    Was it luck? No. I talked to people, interacted a lot, became very active, logged in every day, read a lot, learned, was patient, etc. I asked every sensei and senpai. Many weren't available so i was patient. Eventually i started training.

    Once i mastered the basic 5 i applied to be Scary Yamato's senpai. I got the place. Eventually i took the sensei test and passed. Applied to be an RP mod, and got picked. And it all wasn't by luck. It was hard work. You need to be very active to get somewhere in the RP. You need to be nice, patient, etc.

    Now, it may not be easy for everyone, but you also have to work for it. Just dropping random vms here and there on senseis and senpais won't do the job solely. You need to be active.

    Now, students teaching students is an absolute no. It won't work and would eventually kill the RP. We already have enough under qualified "teachers" around and the effects are noticeable. Lowering the quality isn't the solution.

    Now, be patient, be active and eventually you'll find training.
    Challenge accepted

    My bio got approved on the 25 of december. I worked pretty hard to master basic five, gen, tai and almost done Nin and am starting medical and fuin.

    I dont get how everyone complains. Work hard and be active in the RP forum and youll get good and find teachers. This is not the solution.
     
         

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    Re: Students training Students

    Quote Originally Posted by Zoro.. View Post
    Challenge accepted

    My bio got approved on the 25 of december. I worked pretty hard to master basic five, gen, tai and almost done Nin and am starting medical and fuin.

    I dont get how everyone complains. Work hard and be active in the RP forum and youll get good and find teachers. This is not the solution.
    Some ppl are just lucky. I have been extremely lucky. But I feel for the people who haven't been cos you know its a part of the forum that they want to be a part of be there are obstacles against them which prevent that. I know when I started only a couple months ago a lot of other ppl were joining as well. Idk what the solution is but a lot of people want to play and maybe there should be some other alternatives for them to gain training or something.
     
         

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    Re: Students training Students

    Quote Originally Posted by Melizzle View Post
    Some ppl are just lucky. I have been extremely lucky. But I feel for the people who haven't been cos you know its a peiart of the forum that they want to be a part of be there are obstacles against them which prevent that. I know when I started only a couple months ago a lot of other ppl were joining as well. Idk what the solution is but a lot of people want to play and maybe there should be some other alternatives for them to gain training or something.
    Well people post on sempai or seneis walls asking for training. Honestly if someone asked me how my day was and was kind instead of a "Can you train me in doton please?" I would most likely enjoy responding to the VM instead of some people ignoring profile msgs and still asking. Sometimes even in a rude members, if you speak to someone who later becomes a sensei or sempai using those connections isnt illegal However I dont recommend trying to befriend people for training just be friends with a lot of the senseis or sempais and one day youll see "Accepting Students" on their profile and if you ask nicely youll get the spot. Most of my training came from activity and applying at training apps. Im sure most people do the same as I use to, if someone became a sensei or sempai they would be stalked until a thread was made for apps or until they were ready to respond to the flood of VMs. I usually got lucky when I was on and saw a training application which helped. Keep an eye on the RP forum and make friends and youll get there
     
         

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    Re: Students training Students

    Quote Originally Posted by Zoro.. View Post
    Well people post on sempai or seneis walls asking for training. Honestly if someone asked me how my day was and was kind instead of a "Can you train me in doton please?" I would most likely enjoy responding to the VM instead of some people ignoring profile msgs and still asking. Sometimes even in a rude members, if you speak to someone who later becomes a sensei or sempai using those connections isnt illegal However I dont recommend trying to befriend people for training just be friends with a lot of the senseis or sempais and one day youll see "Accepting Students" on their profile and if you ask nicely youll get the spot. Most of my training came from activity and applying at training apps. Im sure most people do the same as I use to, if someone became a sensei or sempai they would be stalked until a thread was made for apps or until they were ready to respond to the flood of VMs. I usually got lucky when I was on and saw a training application which helped. Keep an eye on the RP forum and make friends and youll get there
    iono like i said ive been extremely lucky. I have training for everything and only applied for 1 spot, usually just get offered. but thats def not the norm. I mean even at the end of the day people have to be patience yes because this whole thing is dependent on other people, and at the end of the day they're going to do what they want to do. If they don't wanna train they won't ya know? And you cant train yourself so...even if there was an idea like Dupa suggested, the same thing might happen...
     
         

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    Re: Students training Students

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorps View Post
    I know right? :roll eyes:


    I understand it might not be as easy as everyone wants but we have now more senseis and senpais than it has ever been in NB's RP.

    I'm an RP mod, sensei, been a senpai, been a student, been no one in the forum. Perhaps not all people know but i started RPing a not even a year ago.

    http://www.narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72836 this was my first bio. Notice the date... 4th of May 2011.

    In less than a year i mastered basic 5, ninjutsu, genjutsu, taijutsu, gentle fist, wood, fuuin and i am receiving medical training.

    Was it luck? No. I talked to people, interacted a lot, became very active, logged in every day, read a lot, learned, was patient, etc. I asked every sensei and senpai. Many weren't available so i was patient. Eventually i started training.

    Once i mastered the basic 5 i applied to be Scary Yamato's senpai. I got the place. Eventually i took the sensei test and passed. Applied to be an RP mod, and got picked. And it all wasn't by luck. It was hard work. You need to be very active to get somewhere in the RP. You need to be nice, patient, etc.

    Now, it may not be easy for everyone, but you also have to work for it. Just dropping random vms here and there on senseis and senpais won't do the job solely. You need to be active.

    Now, students teaching students is an absolute no. It won't work and would eventually kill the RP. We already have enough under qualified "teachers" around and the effects are noticeable. Lowering the quality isn't the solution.

    Now, be patient, be active and eventually you'll find training.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wesobi View Post
    Looks guys, you're all about "OMG I IZ WAITING 2 MONTHS FOR DIS SHIZ AND NO TRAINING YET!!!!"

    It took me 8 months to finish Doton, and in total a year to finish all of it. I mean, honestly, it took me 6 months to finish nin, gen, tai. How can you complain after 2 months?

    So, you don't disrespect senseis/sempais?
    By suggesting this, you deem yourself, or who ever you want to teach you, eligible for things they are not eligible. That in itself alone is an indirect insult, as we've faced situations to attain or positions, while you would not have. And, if you would, it would just be the same as letting a sensei take more than one sempai. Not a solution either.
    While i certaintly admire and respect both of your patience, i can also understand where the new rper´s are coming from, they first hear about the rp, they make their first bio which gets approved.
    They get super excited and can´t wait to start training and then end up waiting for months, it happened to me.
    I had to wait for a month before starting my first training and i wasn´t the most patient guy.
    But eventually as i kept trying, interacted and asked at the right time, i got accepted and voila! Now i have training in basic 5 + nin,gen and i´m looking for someone to teach me tai.

    +rep to you!:D
     
         
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    Re: Students training Students

    i like it but then it sould be harder to master the element
     
         

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    Re: Students training Students

    Quote Originally Posted by 'Kurapika View Post
    It took me more than 6 month to reach the C-ranks in Doton, and i'm still at C-rank and not complaining.
    People need to chill and stop making the RP their only online occupation.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wesobi View Post
    Looks guys, you're all about "OMG I IZ WAITING 2 MONTHS FOR DIS SHIZ AND NO TRAINING YET!!!!"

    It took me 8 months to finish Doton, and in total a year to finish all of it. I mean, honestly, it took me 6 months to finish nin, gen, tai. How can you complain after 2 months?

    So, you don't disrespect senseis/sempais?
    By suggesting this, you deem yourself, or who ever you want to teach you, eligible for things they are not eligible. That in itself alone is an indirect insult, as we've faced situations to attain or positions, while you would not have. And, if you would, it would just be the same as letting a sensei take more than one sempai. Not a solution either.
    stop saying two months as it is nothing ....atleast a mastery of 5 elements should be made eligible to train someone upto c or b rank jutsus ...and as for ur 6 months in gentai and all keep it to urselves , mine is not even close to comparison for ur level ...dude seriosly speaking naruto series will be over before i even reach a mastery i think its disappointing to rob us of our fanatic thinking..of naruto series...

    as far as i c the direction of the thread its mostly the seniors who have a problem ...whats the point if we cant learn even c rank for months of waiting
     
         

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    Re: Students training Students

    There is a lot of kissing of other user rectum on this thread.I agree with this but lets be honest it will never be implemented and the people who will especially not agree with it are the sensei and sempai.Role playing on naruto base is just one thing in my opinion a game of luck which can be speed up through hard work. A game of luck meaning that it is who ever ask a sempai first or sensei first for training that gets it .I have been role playing since September 2011 and i have only mastered 2 elements and ninjutsu.While some who started after i did have mastered all 5 ,and are training in nin,tai,gen.etc.I understand where the maker of this thread is coming from this your idea will make or increases the training but like scorps said it will reduce the the quality but to be honest it is expected that for an individual to master an element he must have fulfilled all the requirements asked by his sensei and sempai and thus must have an average knowledge or understanding of the element.I mean i have sempai like selendrile and keoutsu eclipse who are a pain in the ass in training but men my level of respect for them is limitless they actually teach you like this was some important shit they take thier work seriously and men i respect them for that.What i am trying to say that there is no way if those kind of sempai have trained me in an element that i will not have aat least 90 percent understanding of it but all sempai and sensei are not like that to the maker of this thread rep+ i wish you all the best in your training .
     
         

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    Re: Students training Students

    This doesn't require and essay, just a simple No.

    Sensei pass trials to be tested to see if they are good enough and know the rp well enough to teach.

    Sempai are picked by these sensei under the guidence and watch of their sensei.

    If anyone who mastered one element could train, it would be chaos.
     
         

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    Re: Students training Students

    I find it ironic that the majority of members who complain haven't even been on the site for more than 6 months... I'm rapidly approaching my 1 year mark and I have received 0 training. Granted, I haven't taken battle RP all that serious and only recently joined a village, but I don't see the point of questioning the current RP training system.

    Making a thread (Despite the fact that many similar ones have already been made) does not seem like the best course of action.


    (And before someone states the obvious, yes, I know, the OP has been a member for more than a year. My statement was generalized and directed at no one specifically.)
     
         

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    Re: Students training Students

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt View Post
    There is a lot of kissing of other user rectum on this thread.I agree with this but lets be honest it will never be implemented and the people who will especially not agree with it are the sensei and sempai.Role playing on naruto base is just one thing in my opinion a game of luck which can be speed up through hard work. A game of luck meaning that it is who ever ask a sempai first or sensei first for training that gets it .I have been role playing since September 2011 and i have only mastered 2 elements and ninjutsu.While some who started after i did have mastered all 5 ,and are training in nin,tai,gen.etc.I understand where the maker of this thread is coming from this your idea will make or increases the training but like scorps said it will reduce the the quality but to be honest it is expected that for an individual to master an element he must have fulfilled all the requirements asked by his sensei and sempai and thus must have an average knowledge or understanding of the element.I mean i have sempai like selendrile and keoutsu eclipse who are a pain in the ass in training but men my level of respect for them is limitless they actually teach you like this was some important shit they take thier work seriously and men i respect them for that.What i am trying to say that there is no way if those kind of sempai have trained me in an element that i will not have aat least 90 percent understanding of it but all sempai and sensei are not like that to the maker of this thread rep+ i wish you all the best in your training .
    You're quite a good rectum kisser yourself, but if you don't realize it yet i can always show you an example of yourself in action.
     
         

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    You're quite a good rectum kisser yourself, but if you don't realize it yet i can always show you an example of yourself in action.
    While do that when you can get a first class douche baggery presentation right here sponsored by kurapika.:sy:
     
         

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    Either discuss the subject at hand in a constructive manner or refrain from posting.
     
         

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    Re: Students training Students

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorps View Post
    Either discuss the subject at hand in a constructive manner or refrain from posting.
    Even though he's tempting, i'll just abide by the rules.

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    Re: Students training Students

    I understand that no one accepts this sort of method of training, but we have to provide something. The lack of knowledge from some individuals that go into Spars or battles has become unrealistic. I see many that performed the basic skills and made movements that doesn't meet RP requirement such lack of description or detail when writing. Then we have this confusion and errors which the a Sensei/Senpai, Mods, or sometimes another Senior RP'er have to clarify.

    I understand that many have made Battle Training Threads. That's nice and all, but I think we should take it a step further to make it some sort of requirement before going to a Sensei for training. That is way I suggest we at least make a Academy Training Thread or some sort of Academy Class just to train the basics and for members to understand better.

    I like the Scary Yamato idea of showing the basic Academy used methods when battling. I think we can use that as a "Teacher's Hand Guide" for teachers to teach students.

    Example: (I refer back to these)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kichiro Fujimoto View Post
    For more detail: (Summary)

    Creating a Academy Training Thread or Academy Class for upcoming or untrained Rp'ers to at least calm and keep active RP. It would consist of training the basics such as chakra control, Ninja Arts (Ninjutsu, Genjutsu, Taijutsu, Fuuinjutsu) and ect. So when training with Sensei/Senpai, they already have basic training.

    Also, I understand that you would need approval for Fuuinjutsu Training, but I think you should also know the basic of Fuuinjutsu before you would actual go to a Sensei for more detail. Example:

    Sealing Techniques on various scrolls. You would have to place the written seal on the scroll before you can utilize it. These is the only one I see that have a possibility of being a basic skill you would have to learn.
     
         

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    Even though he's tempting, i'll just abide by the rules.

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    Re: Students training Students

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorps View Post
    Either discuss the subject at hand in :scorps:a constructive manner or refrain from posting.
    Lmao he had no comebacks so he decided to post a pm I sent to him to tell me about the opb bad news man everyone knows the site name.mankind of nowdays:shrug:?i will refrain from posting off topic statement from now on.
     
         

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    Re: Students training Students

    Meh.
    You guys are so immature...
    Anyways the thread should be closed
    It already received a negative response from everyone>_>
     
         

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    Re: Students training Students

    Quote Originally Posted by Drizzeh.. View Post
    Let's make an approximation that about 45/50-60% of the RP system have at least one element mastered. Not because one masters an element generally means he is fit to teach it. Your suggestion is like saying everyone with an element mastered should be a senpai. Some members are lucky, they get training in the first month they've joined, and mastered the element that same month as well. That member would be nothing but an inexperienced member with element mastery status, and thus would not be fit to teach. Regardless what rank he can go up to, why send him out to teach others?
    The whole problem is that you newer members can't wait. I've joined around this time last year, and yet I don't have everything mastered. Some have joined late last year in October etc. and already have the basic five. Stop comparing to older members, NB didn't have such a large population back in the day, there were less members who RP, less members interested. Yet, you still have members from back in 2009, 2010 who still haven't mastered the basic 5, if yes, then maybe not ninjutsu, taijutsu and genjutsu.
    It's the same cycle everyday, everyone gets up and wants to be a senpai. The day they become one, their entire style changes because they simply can't handle the pressure. Not all sensei or senpai are active in teaching, so what? I've been a senpai for about 4 months now, the first day with the title was all fun, accepting students and feeling like I have made an accomplishment. Two weeks later, wallies of training requests in vm, pm, email and msn. Deal with it, I teach who I can. Taking the minimum of 20 students, and at one point I took a maximum of 42 at one time. Everyone has RL issues, some has a heavier burden than others. It isn't easy logging into NB each weekday, knowing a limit of 5 hours until you need to study, etc. That 5 hours I get, I have to teach. I'm not legally bound to teach, I'm not held by a contract, I'm not being payed, but still, I log on, I teach, I do what I do. And yet, there's no difference in results "Train me plz plz plz plz. Please Drizzy senpai plz." Everyday, approximately 10-20 training requests are sent to my profile. How do I deal with it? "Sorry, currently full", if they're generous enough they understand, if not, they continue, "plz plz plz plz". Things and time change, I'm not online during weekdays any at all or only for an hour now, I make up for it my training extra on weekdays. Using an example, on Friday of last week, I decided I'm going to relax, watch One Piece, the end result, "Senpai, reply to training plz plz plz". I'm tired of the "plz", I'm tired of the "train me". Yet, I endure it, I accept who I can, and tell whoever I'm unable to teach that I'm full.
    There are too much impatient people these days. I'm talking on behalf of all sensei and senpai here. It simply annoys me when there are silly suggestions for more sensei/senpai as if we're not doing what we can.
    Agreed so that means that I was one of your first students yay.

    Ot: That would cause a lot of weak new gen rper's but to improve your idea the students that would teach should undergo a test although that is to much for the busy mods/sensei/sempai to handle
     
         

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