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    Re: is sasuke possibly stronger than pein ?

    Quote Originally Posted by StealthShinobi View Post
    well most of u guys are forgetting that naruto was also tierd and most of his chackra was used up during his training with the toads.

    now about sasuke:
    1st of all sasuke didint defeat itachi.itachi let him win

    2nd sasuke wouldnt have defeated deadara without orochimaru's powers that he absorbed and the curse seal.lol so if he he didint have these 2 powers he wouldnt have defeated deadra lol and that means he cant defeat pien even with itachi's powers or itachi would have done that himself and saved konaho.

    now lets get back to naruto:
    when naruto had 8 tails he only broke out from chibaku tensi wich would have been easy if he was in sage mode (he didint have a choice the kyubi took over)

    ow and he was able to withstand shinra tensi at the end and killed the main pien's body without the kyubi's power and he was able to resist nagato chackra controller from a short distance .
    Nagato was also tired of fight Konoha by him self!
    Itachi knew Sasuke going to become stronger them him. So it dont matter who was stronger in the fight,
    Sasuke defeated deidara, does no matter who power he had, is his
    So Naruto would no won any of his big fight,lol
    without the tail fox...
     
         
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    Re: is sasuke possibly stronger than pein ?

    well most of u guys are forgetting that naruto was also tierd and most of his chackra was used up during his training with the toads.
    wrong for 2 reasons.

    1.Sage mode specifically deals with stamina issues by regenerating chakra at an extremely large rate, this is why naruto looks absolutely exhausted when his sage mode runs out, and then looks absolutely hyperactive ones he activates it again.

    Yes it does require your own chakra balancing with natural chakra too, but the whole point of sage mode is to be able to fight your enemy without getting tired.
    Better regeneration, less tiredness, more strength etc etc

    2.The training on the mountain actually covered a very long time-span, a few manga chapters i believe covered many weeks, maybe month or so.

    It wasnt an overnight thing, though admittedly the manga can be seen to show him learning sage mode in that amount of time.
     
         

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    Re: is sasuke possibly stronger than pein ?

    Quote Originally Posted by peaceful View Post
    Madara is not in need of a chance. It is a fact that he is stronger than Pain.
    yeah lol tipo i was thinking on im when wrote what i meent is jiraya if he was in naruto's place since he as more jutsu and exp then naruto
     
         

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    Re: is sasuke possibly stronger than pein ?

    madara said (if)sasuke becomes stronger that pein is not use if he can't control him
    Naruto 453 page 18 | One Manga
     
         

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    Re: is sasuke possibly stronger than pein ?

    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlink View Post
    wrong for 2 reasons.

    1.Sage mode specifically deals with stamina issues by regenerating chakra at an extremely large rate, this is why naruto looks absolutely exhausted when his sage mode runs out, and then looks absolutely hyperactive ones he activates it again.

    Yes it does require your own chakra balancing with natural chakra too, but the whole point of sage mode is to be able to fight your enemy without getting tired.
    Better regeneration, less tiredness, more strength etc etc

    2.The training on the mountain actually covered a very long time-span, a few manga chapters i believe covered many weeks, maybe month or so.

    It wasnt an overnight thing, though admittedly the manga can be seen to show him learning sage mode in that amount of time.
    i said he was training like when he was training to use the rasen shuriken in sage mode and when he was trying to gather sage chackra while running
     
         

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    Re: is sasuke possibly stronger than pein ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Realtwisted View Post
    Nagato was also tired of fight Konoha by him self!
    Itachi knew Sasuke going to become stronger them him. So it dont matter who was stronger in the fight,
    Sasuke defeated deidara, does no matter who power he had, is his
    So Naruto would no won any of his big fight,lol
    without the tail fox...
    i know but my point was that people keep saying that naruto has to reley on the kyubi's power to win his fights like the one with pien and then they describe sasuke as a god lol without mensioning him releying on the powers i mentioned earlier
     
         

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    Re: is sasuke possibly stronger than pein ?

    Quote Originally Posted by fmcande View Post
    madara said (if)sasuke becomes stronger that pein is not use if he can't control him
    Naruto 453 page 18 | One Manga
    lol thats what i said many times before but people ignore it and keep saying that sasuke is stronger than pien

    lol sry for the tripple posts
     
         

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    Re: is sasuke possibly stronger than pein ?

    Quote Originally Posted by StealthShinobi View Post
    lol thats what i said many times before but people ignore it and keep saying that sasuke is stronger than pien

    lol sry for the tripple posts
    i know bro some people here not accept things even do u show them pics from the manga it self
     
         

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    Re: is sasuke possibly stronger than pein ?

    Quote Originally Posted by StealthShinobi View Post
    i know but my point was that people keep saying that naruto has to reley on the kyubi's power to win his fights like the one with pien and then they describe sasuke as a god lol without mensioning him releying on the powers i mentioned earlier
    but he did, without the tail fox, he would be death.
     
         

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    Re: is sasuke possibly stronger than pein ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Realtwisted View Post
    but he did, without the tail fox, he would be death.
    the same for sasuke's sharigan when he fought haku
    curse mark when he fought deidara because if it werent for his wings he woudnt beat deidara ( yeah it was actualy the best fight sasuke ever fought after sasuke vs itachi )
    MS for the fight with Kirabi and still he got powened.


    to make it clear sasuke is one of my fav's but still he's luck factor as played a great role on is fight's and also second most important characer power's
     
         

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    Re: is sasuke possibly stronger than pein ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vergil.. View Post
    the same for sasuke's sharigan when he fought haku
    curse mark when he fought deidara because if it werent for his wings he woudnt beat deidara ( yeah it was actualy the best fight sasuke ever fought after sasuke vs itachi )
    MS for the fight with Kirabi and still he got powened.


    to make it clear sasuke is one of my fav's but still he's luck factor as played a great role on is fight's and also second most important characer power's
    thnx for backing me up on this :D
    but u forgot to mension orochimaru's powers that sasuke used to summon the king manda or something wich saved him in his fight against deadara
     
         

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    Re: is sasuke possibly stronger than pein ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vergil.. View Post
    the same for sasuke's sharigan when he fought haku
    curse mark when he fought deidara because if it werent for his wings he woudnt beat deidara ( yeah it was actualy the best fight sasuke ever fought after sasuke vs itachi )
    MS for the fight with Kirabi and still he got powened.


    to make it clear sasuke is one of my fav's but still he's luck factor as played a great role on is fight's and also second most important characer power's
    yeah, so
    he say that Naruto din't relay on the 9 tail fox in the fight againt nagato,
    i dont really care about if the 9 tail fox save naruto all the time...
     
         

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    Re: is sasuke possibly stronger than pein ?

    i said he was training like when he was training to use the rasen shuriken in sage mode and when he was trying to gather sage chackra while running
    what you actually said was and i quote

    well most of u guys are forgetting that naruto was also tierd and most of his chackra was used up during his training with the toads.
    You have changed what you said
     
         

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    Re: is sasuke possibly stronger than pein ?

    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlink View Post
    what you actually said was and i quote



    You have changed what you said
    ummm what i said in my old post has the same meaning as the secons post i said while he was training with the toads in my 1st post in my second i said the same thing using differant words
     
         

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    Re: is sasuke possibly stronger than pein ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Realtwisted View Post
    yeah, so
    he say that Naruto din't relay on the 9 tail fox in the fight againt nagato,
    i dont really care about if the 9 tail fox save naruto all the time...
    yeah it help's but you cant say naruto's the only one with top char power and luck thats the only think im saing and plus it makes it all more interesting
     
         

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    Re: is sasuke possibly stronger than pein ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vergil.. View Post
    yeah it help's but you cant say naruto's the only one with top char power and luck thats the only think im saing and plus it makes it all more interesting
    yeah, you also say the same time for Sasuke, the he is the most lucky character..
     
         

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    Re: is sasuke possibly stronger than pein ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Realtwisted View Post
    yeah, you also say the same time for Sasuke, the he is the most lucky character..
    lukiest guys in the show are naruto sasuke kakashi and lee

    naruto and sasuke we alredy talked about them
    kakashi his luky that always that he gets to his limit because of sharigan gai/guy or other jounin gets there wich gives time for kakashi to give always the finishing blow.
    lee gets saved by guy from gaara and by gaara from kimimaru
     
         

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    Re: is sasuke possibly stronger than pein ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vergil.. View Post
    lukiest guys in the show are naruto sasuke kakashi and lee

    naruto and sasuke we alredy talked about them
    kakashi his luky that always that he gets to his limit because of sharigan gai/guy or other jounin gets there wich gives time for kakashi to give always the finishing blow.
    lee gets saved by guy from gaara and by gaara from kimimaru
    and the unluky guys are the 3 hokage akuma and jiraya ... is not a question of luck
    is what kishi wants for the charater
     
         

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    Re: is sasuke possibly stronger than pein ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vergil.. View Post
    lukiest guys in the show are naruto sasuke kakashi and lee

    naruto and sasuke we alredy talked about them
    kakashi his luky that always that he gets to his limit because of sharigan gai/guy or other jounin gets there wich gives time for kakashi to give always the finishing blow.
    lee gets saved by guy from gaara and by gaara from kimimaru
    lol you are right but u forgot someone
    shikimaru
     
         

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    Re: is sasuke possibly stronger than pein ?

    Well, the battle between the two would be a very good battle no doubt, but to answer your question no Pain is stronger.

    The only way Sauske would even stand a chance against Pain is if Sauske knew all of Pain's powers prior to the battle and even then the battle would still probably go to Pain.

    (this part contains spoilers!)

    The reason is because nothing would be holding Pain back, when Pain fought Naruto Pain had the battle won the moment Hinata had to intervene. Plus we can forget the real Pain gave up and never actually fought Naruto so if Pain fought Sauske he'd be fighting to kill and Sauske would not win. (and thats even if you consider Sauske and Naruto even as of 466 which I still think Naruto would currently beat Sauske)
     
         

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