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    Re: itachi vs muu

    Quote Originally Posted by SebastionM View Post
    Muu could easily get out of a genjutsu, and Itachi has no reply to dust..
    Itachi wins this low to mid difficulty
    Muu ahs no reply to Demonic mirror
    MS isnt needed
    If Muu goes invisible Itachi could still see him cause apparently his chakra cant go invisible

    He also probaly tried to go invisible against Madara, but look where that got him, he became Madaras little puppet
     
         

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    Re: itachi vs muu

    Quote Originally Posted by SebastionM View Post
    Amaterasu is avoidable. Even by running. Genjutsu would be easy to get out of, he can split his body in half, so he could get himself out. And susano isn't going to protect well against dust.
    That would be funny if running is all you need to do to get out of a genjutsu
    Then anyone one can counter a genjutsu even an academy student
     
         

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    Re: itachi vs muu

    Quote Originally Posted by yuan of cruxis View Post
    Itachi wins this low to mid difficulty
    Muu ahs no reply to Demonic mirror
    MS isnt needed
    If Muu goes invisible Itachi could still see him cause apparently his chakra cant go invisible

    He also probaly tried to go invisible against Madara, but look where that got him, he became Madaras little puppet
    Lmao, when he's invisible he suppresses his chakra. And I think you're thinking of the Byakugan...

    Madara didn't defeat him....Where are you getting he's his puppet?

    That would be funny if running is all you need to do to get out of a genjutsu
    Then anyone one can counter a genjutsu even an academy student
    Would be...seeing as how to works against most techs. Easy solution is not look into their eyes. But that only works with certain genjutsus.
     
         
    Last edited by SebastionM; 04-13-2012 at 01:23 AM.

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    Re: itachi vs muu

    Done to death

    Mu uses the same technique; camouflage technique http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Hiding_...lage_Technique which obito with a 2 tomoe sharigan was able to see. What makes mu annoying is that not only does he use this technique to hide himself from those with normal eyes, due to his sensoring prowess and ability to suppress his chakra to a minimum it further improves the camouflage technique therefore whether a doujutsu user can see still see him, is something we dont know.

    Dust release damaging a full susano is very possible. Destroying it, i dont think so. One with the yata mirror, off course not. Anyway as weve seen ems madara beat prime Oonoki. We have seen that ems madara has susano and prime Onoki with dust release came out the loser.

    What is annoying with mu is not his ability to fly, but his invisibility where he could nearly suppress all his chakra. Whether the sharigan can see him, who knows. Anyway when uses this technique whilst on the ground he leaves footprints therefore his technique isnt very useful on the ground;


    Its in the air that makes it annoying.
    What i will say is that dust release is not only slow to materialise, it also leaves mu vulnerable because he has to stay stationary to attack but also visible. If he does attack, visible and in the process of forming dust release, amaterasu would get him before he forms dust release. If he does split to evade amaterasu, thats the match over;



    ^ Visible, stationary and in the process of forming dust release. Amaterasu which is one of the fastest attacks when activated should get him then
    Itachi mid /high difficulty
     
         

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    Re: itachi vs muu

    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze Release View Post
    Done to death

    Mu uses the same technique; camouflage technique http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Hiding_...lage_Technique which obito with a 2 tomoe sharigan was able to see. What makes mu annoying is that not only does he use this technique to hide himself from those with normal eyes, due to his sensoring prowess and ability to suppress his chakra to a minimum it further improves the camouflage technique therefore whether a doujutsu user can see still see him, is something we dont know.

    Dust release damaging a full susano is very possible. Destroying it, i dont think so. One with the yata mirror, off course not. Anyway as weve seen ems madara beat prime Oonoki. We have seen that ems madara has susano and prime Onoki with dust release came out the loser.

    What is annoying with mu is not his ability to fly, but his invisibility where he could nearly suppress all his chakra. Whether the sharigan can see him, who knows. Anyway when uses this technique whilst on the ground he leaves footprints therefore his technique isnt very useful on the ground;


    Its in the air that makes it annoying.
    What i will say is that dust release is not only slow to materialise, it also leaves mu vulnerable because he has to stay stationary to attack but also visible. If he does attack, visible and in the process of forming dust release, amaterasu would get him before he forms dust release. If he does split to evade amaterasu, thats the match over;



    ^ Visible, stationary and in the process of forming dust release. Amaterasu which is one of the fastest attacks when activated should get him then
    Itachi mid /high difficulty

    Where does it say they can't move while preparing? Depending how how fast he is, if he's flying he can fly out of the way of Amaterasu. I'm only saying this because they fly and the speed of running, or a little faster. When Sasuke was fighting Itachi, Itachi couldn't hit sasuke while he was simply running in circles.

    Although you are right with the fact that if he can't move, he would be screwed.

    Would the mirror still work if the whole susano is in the box?
     
         

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    Re: itachi vs muu

    Quote Originally Posted by SebastionM View Post
    Where does it say they can't move while preparing? Depending how how fast he is, if he's flying he can fly out of the way of Amaterasu. I'm only saying this because they fly and the speed of running, or a little faster. When Sasuke was fighting Itachi, Itachi couldn't hit sasuke while he was simply running in circles.

    Although you are right with the fact that if he can't move, he would be screwed.

    Would the mirror still work if the whole susano is in the box?
    Every time jinton is used the user stays stationary.
    If he flys out of range of amaterasu and use jinton, any body with great body flicker would evade it because the higher he fly's the greater the gap is between him and his opponent therefore jinton is easier to evade.

    At the highlighted part, when a fight has been preplanned it isnt wise to use that in an argument.

    Susano is fairly massive. The user of dust release must be taken a fairly risky move to use such a big one to cover all of susano. But size matters. The bigger the jinton the greater the time it takes to form.
     
         

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    Re: itachi vs muu

    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze Release View Post
    Every time jinton is used the user stays stationary.
    If he flys out of range of amaterasu and use jinton, any body with great body flicker would evade it because the higher he fly's the greater the gap is between him and his opponent therefore jinton is easier to evade.

    At the highlighted part, when a fight has been preplanned it isnt wise to use that in an argument.

    Susano is fairly massive. The user of dust release must be taken a fairly risky move to use such a big one to cover all of susano. But size matters. The bigger the jinton the greater the time it takes to form.
    Where does it state that he has to stay stationary? Manga page?

    Preplanned? haha Doesn't change the fact he couldn't hit him, nor could he hit A.

    Again, where is the page saying this? No matter how big they are making it, it starts small in their hands, then expands to fit around the target. It never said it takes longer to make bigger ones. The fact that it can become as big as a island shows that it could overcome a susano.

    Have you ever seen someone body flicker while in susano?
     
         

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    Re: itachi vs muu

    Quote Originally Posted by SebastionM View Post
    Where does it state that he has to stay stationary? Manga page?

    Preplanned? haha Doesn't change the fact he couldn't hit him, nor could he hit A.

    Again, where is the page saying this? No matter how big they are making it, it starts small in their hands, then expands to fit around the target. It never said it takes longer to make bigger ones. The fact that it can become as big as a island shows that it could overcome a susano.

    Have you ever seen someone body flicker while in susano?
    At the highlighted part, look at everytime mu or onoki have used dust release.

    Itachi couldve ended that fight anything he wanted. Again such logic isnt needed here. A got a head start when he looked into sasuke eyes, but also is one of the fastest people in the manga.

    Id like to see mu try and look into itachi's eyes. Secondly mu's speed isnt on par with A. Jinton does start small and increases, but it depends on how big they want to make it and how long it takes to make it.

    Look at it this way. Jinton around sasuke wouldnt take as long as jinton around susano.

    Nobody has seen anybody use the body flicker whilst in susano in either of its version, but the body flicker alone can evade jinton, therefore the user doesnt need susano until, they truly feel the need to
     
         
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    Re: itachi vs muu

    Muu wins mid-high def.
     
         

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    Re: itachi vs muu

    Quote Originally Posted by narutorikudoumode View Post
    itachi he would find a way to win
    just another fanboy answer who cannot back it up. Muu would also find a way to win this. He is also a sensor type thus he will know if he is on genjutsu and can break it.

    I just hope susano'o can hold against the dust release.
     
         

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    Re: itachi vs muu

    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze Release View Post
    At the highlighted part, look at everytime mu or onoki have used dust release.

    Itachi couldve ended that fight anything he wanted. Again such logic isnt needed here. A got a head start when he looked into sasuke eyes, but also is one of the fastest people in the manga.

    Id like to see mu try and look into itachi's eyes. Secondly mu's speed isnt on par with A. Jinton does start small and increases, but it depends on how big they want to make it and how long it takes to make it.

    Look at it this way. Jinton around sasuke wouldnt take as long as jinton around susano
    Aww, such a invalid argument that can't be backed up. He didn't move when fighting sasuke cause he had no where to go. He would have been better off in front of him like he was.

    I'm sure he could have...that explains why he didn't. Now I'm not saying that sasuke is stronger, cause obviously he Isn't. He didn't get a head start, he just moved when it appeared. It starts off as little, then it grows the longer he looks at it.

    Yea, he could if he split his body in two...One half could go invisible, then if the other one get into a genjutsu, the other one could get him out. It doesn't matter if he's on par with his speed.

    Again, you are assuming things about that dust that are not backed up.
     
         

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    Re: itachi vs muu

    Quote Originally Posted by yuan of cruxis View Post
    Itachi wins this low to mid difficulty
    Muu ahs no reply to Demonic mirror
    MS isnt needed
    If Muu goes invisible Itachi could still see him cause apparently his chakra cant go invisible

    He also probaly tried to go invisible against Madara, but look where that got him, he became Madaras little puppet
    muu has no chakra. reread the manga. and the yata mirror can only block from the front. if muus invisible and flies behind itachis sussano, im pretty sure its gonna go through sussano killing itachi
     
         

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    Re: itachi vs muu

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    Re: itachi vs muu

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyTwoTails View Post
    Muu dies
    Explain your logic?
     
         

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    Re: itachi vs muu

    Quote Originally Posted by SebastionM View Post
    Aww, such a invalid argument that can't be backed up. He didn't move when fighting sasuke cause he had no where to go. He would have been better off in front of him like he was.

    I'm sure he could have...that explains why he didn't. Now I'm not saying that sasuke is stronger, cause obviously he Isn't. He didn't get a head start, he just moved when it appeared. It starts off as little, then it grows the longer he looks at it.

    Yea, he could if he split his body in two...One half could go invisible, then if the other one get into a genjutsu, the other one could get him out. It doesn't matter if he's on par with his speed.

    Again, you are assuming things about that dust that are not backed up.
    *Sigh* you believe itachi actually missed sasuke with amaterasu?. Meh i cannot be bothered to get into this. Mu splitting?, you do know that if he splits he cannot use dust release anymore right?

    Im not assuming things about dust release i told you that it would take longer to cover susano with dust release than it would to cover a human being. Thats common sense due to its size.

    If worst comes to worst, itachi can sacrifice an eye and decide mu's fate although i do not believe it would come to that
     
         

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    Re: itachi vs muu

    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze Release View Post
    *Sigh* you believe itachi actually missed sasuke with amaterasu?. Meh i cannot be bothered to get into this. Mu splitting?, you do know that if he splits he cannot use dust release anymore right?

    Im not assuming things about dust release i told you that it would take longer to cover susano with dust release than it would to cover a human being. Thats common sense due to its size.

    If worst comes to worst, itachi can sacrifice an eye and decide mu's fate although i do not believe it would come to that

    Yea, I do. Mainly cause of the fact that many people seem to be able to avoid it/easily survive through it.

    I know that if he splits, that his can only use like 50% of his power. Where does it say he can't use dust? :/

    Yes you are, it's not common sense. You don't know what it takes to make a bigger one. You obviously can't back it up, so I'm going with what I believe.

    Yea, cause that's been shown to have a real nice effect....
     
         

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    Re: itachi vs muu

    Quote Originally Posted by SebastionM View Post
    Yea, I do. Mainly cause of the fact that many people seem to be able to avoid it/easily survive through it.

    I know that if he splits, that his can only use like 50% of his power. Where does it say he can't use dust? :/

    Yes you are, it's not common sense. You don't know what it takes to make a bigger one. You obviously can't back it up, so I'm going with what I believe.

    Yea, cause that's been shown to have a real nice effect....
    Easily/evade? How many people have evaded amaterasu apart from A and sasuke and both cases it couldve caught them but due to circumstances it didnt

    At the highlighted part, since you cannot read the manga there you go;
     
         

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    Re: itachi vs muu

    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze Release View Post
    Easily/evade? How many people have evaded amaterasu apart from A and sasuke and both cases it couldve caught them but due to circumstances it didnt

    At the highlighted part, since you cannot read the manga there you go;

    Same could be reversed, how manly people have died from it? How many have been majorly injured due to this "amazing technique?"

    Tell me, what are the circumstances that made it impossible for them to land a hit? Dust in their eye? Something else get them side tracked?

    If Itachi didn't intend on hitting Sasuke he wouldn't have tried to hit him with it.

    It's not that I didn't read it, it's that I forgot. He can do more things than just Dust.
     
         

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    Re: itachi vs muu

    Quote Originally Posted by SebastionM View Post
    Same could be reversed, how manly people have died from it? How many have been majorly injured due to this "amazing technique?"

    Tell me, what are the circumstances that made it impossible for them to land a hit? Dust in their eye? Something else get them side tracked?

    If Itachi didn't intend on hitting Sasuke he wouldn't have tried to hit him with it.

    It's not that I didn't read it, it's that I forgot. He can do more things than just Dust.
    Im not getting into this pointless debate about what itachi could and didnt do in a fight that was already planned.

    Anyway mu can do more things than dust release but he hasnt shown us any other offensive capabilities than that therefore we cannot assume. Besides its dust release that poses the most trouble. Unless he has another technique (which has never been mentioned) that is on the same level as dust release in terms of opness, once he splits the opponent gains the advantage.

    Anyway im done here
     
         

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    Re: itachi vs muu

    Quote Originally Posted by SebastionM View Post
    Same could be reversed, how manly people have died from it? How many have been majorly injured due to this "amazing technique?"

    Tell me, what are the circumstances that made it impossible for them to land a hit? Dust in their eye? Something else get them side tracked?

    If Itachi didn't intend on hitting Sasuke he wouldn't have tried to hit him with it.

    It's not that I didn't read it, it's that I forgot. He can do more things than just Dust.
    You kind of suck at arguing..just because things arent stated in the manga, does not mean certain things arent possible. Whenever Oonoki or Muu have ever used Dust release, hey always shown to have their hands out forward, in one position. They cant fly around and use a dust technique at the same time. Whether he can use it while invisible maybe, maybe not, but Itachi would notice it forming....but according to ur logic.

    Its not stated whether konohamaru's sexy jutsu will work on everyone or not, so he can use that on every character and win. The manga hasnt said otherwise right?
     
         

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