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    sage mode rasengans

    So naruto can throw FRS but it takes a lot of energy out of him, he only has two shots even in sage mode.

    Why doesnt he just throw loads of rasengans?

    I mean a rasengan to the head is going to kill the enemy, jiraiya showed rasengan burning through a tree, standard rasengans do kill, or damage badly.

    Why doesnt he just throw off loads of rasengans like ping-pong balls instead of using a giant FRS for one shot?

    Just thinking of certain new moves naruto could use, as for sure its going to be rasengan and thats it lol
     
         

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    Re: sage mode rasengans

    he can't throw normal rasengan (though it would be cool and funny:D) he's using his wind element to throw FRS
     
         

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    Re: sage mode rasengans

    wheres the proof/evidence you need wind elemental recomposition in your jutsus to throw them??

    It never mentioned his FRS can be thrown because its wind...
     
         

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    Re: sage mode rasengans

    You gotta remember him using a FRS use to tear up his body so that justu must not tear up his body but must still take charka to keep it from harming him
     
         

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    Re: sage mode rasengans

    yeah !! ..
     
         

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    Re: sage mode rasengans

    if he can throw rasengans it'll turn into dragon ball... he just need to learn how to fly and launch a quick succession of energy bolts, err... rasengans and there we have another goku. And if he can throw a giant rasengan, it'll be called genki damma.
     
         

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    Re: sage mode rasengans

    Sage mode FRS now expands while in movement and expands even more upon impact. The damage is much much more devastating than regular rasengans.
     
         

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    Re: sage mode rasengans

    I get its more damaging,and that he must throw it not to damage himself, you dont understand what i mean, im simply making a new jutsu idea as it were.

    Its more difficult avoiding 30-40 standard rasengans being thrown at you than 1 giant spinning disc, once youve dodged the big one-youre safe.

    Once youve dodged a rasengan, you got 39 more to dodge.

    It saves chakra and you can get hit on the first few rasengans if naruto gets really good.

    If it was up to me id use flying rasengans first and if that didnt work-FRS
     
         

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    Re: sage mode rasengans

    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlink View Post
    wheres the proof/evidence you need wind elemental recomposition in your jutsus to throw them??

    It never mentioned his FRS can be thrown because its wind...
    he can't even throw the rasenshuriken, it was only when he added the natural chakra that he was able to throw it. but he was not able to throw the two previous forms.
     
         

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    Re: sage mode rasengans

    Ehh.. maybe he's using the wind to keep Rasengan's shape? Like if he threw it without adding anything to hold the jutsu together, it'd disperse the very moment it left his hand. Or maybe Rasengan by itself just fails aerodynamically.
     
         
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    Re: sage mode rasengans

    I think he cannot throw rasengan. And thats why he is not spamming rasengans on everyone...
     
         

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    Re: sage mode rasengans

    Agreed
     
         

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    Re: sage mode rasengans

    Quote Originally Posted by peaceful View Post
    I think he cannot throw rasengan. And thats why he is not spamming rasengans on everyone...
    yup dont forget the frs is a shuriken which is meant to be thrown because its a shuriken
     
         

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    Re: sage mode rasengans

    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlink View Post
    So naruto can throw FRS but it takes a lot of energy out of him, he only has two shots even in sage mode.

    Why doesnt he just throw loads of rasengans?

    I mean a rasengan to the head is going to kill the enemy, jiraiya showed rasengan burning through a tree, standard rasengans do kill, or damage badly.

    Why doesnt he just throw off loads of rasengans like ping-pong balls instead of using a giant FRS for one shot?

    Just thinking of certain new moves naruto could use, as for sure its going to be rasengan and thats it lol

    I have the same question as you but I guess I have an answer to this.
    cuz:
    1) RS looks cooler and is brand New

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    CUZ KISHI WANTS SO
     
         

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    Re: sage mode rasengans

    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlink View Post
    So naruto can throw FRS but it takes a lot of energy out of him, he only has two shots even in sage mode.

    Why doesnt he just throw loads of rasengans?

    I mean a rasengan to the head is going to kill the enemy, jiraiya showed rasengan burning through a tree, standard rasengans do kill, or damage badly.

    Why doesnt he just throw off loads of rasengans like ping-pong balls instead of using a giant FRS for one shot?

    Just thinking of certain new moves naruto could use, as for sure its going to be rasengan and thats it lol
    because that would seem rather silly and perfectic i think
     
         

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    Re: sage mode rasengans

    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlink View Post
    So naruto can throw FRS but it takes a lot of energy out of him, he only has two shots even in sage mode.

    Why doesnt he just throw loads of rasengans?

    I mean a rasengan to the head is going to kill the enemy, jiraiya showed rasengan burning through a tree, standard rasengans do kill, or damage badly.

    Why doesnt he just throw off loads of rasengans like ping-pong balls instead of using a giant FRS for one shot?

    Just thinking of certain new moves naruto could use, as for sure its going to be rasengan and thats it lol
    naruto throwing rasengans would be funny ahah
    naruto playing footbal
     
         

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    Re: sage mode rasengans

    wow thats a real awesome jutsu... like Naruto firing over 20 to 30 rasengans one after another... like a fully automatic Mk-13...

    Description and Effects of Rasengan


    The Rasengan doesn't require any hand seals at all, it relies only on the chakra control of the user, and once it's complete, it becomes self-sustaining, which does not give Rasengan a definite limit of use like its counterpart, the Chidori. The chakra spinning at such a speed and compacted into such a small state allows the spinning chakra to grind whatever it comes in contact with, causing major damage to it. When used on a person, it has been seen to grind into them, eventually blasting them back. In addition to this, it can also incapacitate the person it comes in contact with, it can also be speculated that the Rasengan also carries the ability to negate a technique such as Chidori due to the compressed state and the chakra within the shell spinning at high speeds and random directions whereas Chidori is more direct. In an anime filler arc, Naruto was able to perform this jutsu as a mid-range projectile technique by throwing it into a wall. The Rasengan was designed to use the caster elemental affinities, as stated by Kakashi and designed by Minato. Minato was unable to add his affinities to his Rasengan before he died. Kakashi tried to add his lightning element to the Rasengan but was unable to and explains that he uses the Chidori and Lightning Blade instead, which requires a certain point of shape manipulation and nature manipulation itself. Some video games depict Jiraiya being able to add his Fire affinity, but it was not shown in the anime or manga. Naruto was the first to add his Wind affinity to his Rasengan and even advanced it to the point the he was able to create the Wind Release: Rasenshuriken.


     
         
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    Re: sage mode rasengans

    Quote Originally Posted by platinum69 View Post
    wow thats a real awesome jutsu... like Naruto firing over 20 to 30 rasengans one after another... like a fully automatic Mk-13...

    Description and Effects of Rasengan


    The Rasengan doesn't require any hand seals at all, it relies only on the chakra control of the user, and once it's complete, it becomes self-sustaining, which does not give Rasengan a definite limit of use like its counterpart, the Chidori. The chakra spinning at such a speed and compacted into such a small state allows the spinning chakra to grind whatever it comes in contact with, causing major damage to it. When used on a person, it has been seen to grind into them, eventually blasting them back. In addition to this, it can also incapacitate the person it comes in contact with, it can also be speculated that the Rasengan also carries the ability to negate a technique such as Chidori due to the compressed state and the chakra within the shell spinning at high speeds and random directions whereas Chidori is more direct. In an anime filler arc, Naruto was able to perform this jutsu as a mid-range projectile technique by throwing it into a wall. The Rasengan was designed to use the caster elemental affinities, as stated by Kakashi and designed by Minato. Minato was unable to add his affinities to his Rasengan before he died. Kakashi tried to add his lightning element to the Rasengan but was unable to and explains that he uses the Chidori and Lightning Blade instead, which requires a certain point of shape manipulation and nature manipulation itself. Some video games depict Jiraiya being able to add his Fire affinity, but it was not shown in the anime or manga. Naruto was the first to add his Wind affinity to his Rasengan and even advanced it to the point the he was able to create the Wind Release: Rasenshuriken.


    WOW..............Dats some work u have done...........
    Thinking about new style to use Rasengan...How about rain of rasengans.......like kirin of sasuke..........dat will be unavoidable........
    Sage mode's limit is only 2 FRS. b'coz naruto can't gather natural energy while moving.....If he does dat, there will be no limit to him.....
     
         

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    Re: sage mode rasengans

    rasengan cannot be thrown because of the following: a great deal of energy and consentration is needed to obtain it,but even more effort is needed not to loose she shape.if naruto tries to throw rasengan it will vanish in the air.
    its wind element that makes frs steady for several seconds which is needed to dmg the target
    to my mind it is not needed to be genious to understand this
    chears!
     
         

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    Re: sage mode rasengans

    Well normal frs is a point blank shot. Naruto propably named it because it takes the shape of a shuriken. Sage Naruto's sage frs is propably able to fly because of it's natural chakra. So why does not he make a sage rasengan that would fly because of the natular chakra? Wtg dragonball! Will Naruto also learn kamehameha....i mean a rasengan that is controlled by his wind chakra :P
     
         

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    Re: sage mode rasengans

    Ill put it simply:

    -Rasengan alone, stationary. placed within hand, point-blank range.

    -Fuuton: Rasenshuriken, it's movement is extended by the wind affinity added to it through nature manipulation, apparently, with wind affinity comes flight or the ability to "glide".

    -Fuuton: Rasengan, this is the precursor to Fuuton: Rasenshuriken, it is merely a rasengan with wind affinity added to it, it is not shape manipulated to become the shape of a shuriken.

    The Fuuton: Rasengan has the same capability of "gliding", theoretically, due to it's combination with wind manipulation; but, it is much less powerful than the Fuuton: Rasenshuriken and will not cause damage at the cellular level. (This is based on the clashing of Kakashi's Rasengan and Naruto's Fuuton: Rasengan...aka, the incomplete 1st stage of Fuuton: Rasenshuriken) (Kakashi's arm was not damaged at the cellular level as Kakuzu was, making this form less effective)

    During the experiment Kakashi and Naruto made, the point was to see if the two jutsus would cancel each other out, Fuuton: Rasengan proved to be more powerful, wiping out the normal Rasengan and with it's wind-searing abilities affecting his arm)
     
         

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    Re: sage mode rasengans

    Quote Originally Posted by dredblack7 View Post
    Ill put it simply:

    -Rasengan alone, stationary. placed within hand, point-blank range.

    -Fuuton: Rasenshuriken, it's movement is extended by the wind affinity added to it through nature manipulation, apparently, with wind affinity comes flight or the ability to "glide".

    -Fuuton: Rasengan, this is the precursor to Fuuton: Rasenshuriken, it is merely a rasengan with wind affinity added to it, it is not shape manipulated to become the shape of a shuriken.

    The Fuuton: Rasengan has the same capability of "gliding", theoretically, due to it's combination with wind manipulation; but, it is much less powerful than the Fuuton: Rasenshuriken and will not cause damage at the cellular level. (This is based on the clashing of Kakashi's Rasengan and Naruto's Fuuton: Rasengan...aka, the incomplete 1st stage of Fuuton: Rasenshuriken) (Kakashi's arm was not damaged at the cellular level as Kakuzu was, making this form less effective)

    During the experiment Kakashi and Naruto made, the point was to see if the two jutsus would cancel each other out, Fuuton: Rasengan proved to be more powerful, wiping out the normal Rasengan and with it's wind-searing abilities affecting his arm)
    I think u are wrong, there are many jutsus in the manga and in the anime that are not wind elemental but they are long ranged. The boss toad (cant remember his name) used "water bullets". He propably made the "water bullets" inside him and just threw them away with raw power or by enchansing the jutsu with pure chakra not to make them stronger but to make them fly in a long distance while keeping their shape. And yamato when he made the vortex jutsu with Naruto he uesd a long range distance water jutsu. So is there no possibility that Naruto in Sage Mode or not (does not matter) come up with an idea to improve rasengan so he can throw it to the enemy?
     
         

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    Re: sage mode rasengans

    Quote Originally Posted by dredblack7 View Post
    Ill put it simply:

    -Rasengan alone, stationary. placed within hand, point-blank range.

    -Fuuton: Rasenshuriken, it's movement is extended by the wind affinity added to it through nature manipulation, apparently, with wind affinity comes flight or the ability to "glide".

    -Fuuton: Rasengan, this is the precursor to Fuuton: Rasenshuriken, it is merely a rasengan with wind affinity added to it, it is not shape manipulated to become the shape of a shuriken.

    The Fuuton: Rasengan has the same capability of "gliding", theoretically, due to it's combination with wind manipulation; but, it is much less powerful than the Fuuton: Rasenshuriken and will not cause damage at the cellular level. (This is based on the clashing of Kakashi's Rasengan and Naruto's Fuuton: Rasengan...aka, the incomplete 1st stage of Fuuton: Rasenshuriken) (Kakashi's arm was not damaged at the cellular level as Kakuzu was, making this form less effective)

    During the experiment Kakashi and Naruto made, the point was to see if the two jutsus would cancel each other out, Fuuton: Rasengan proved to be more powerful, wiping out the normal Rasengan and with it's wind-searing abilities affecting his arm)
    i think it has less to do with the wind element and more to do with natural energy, cause if the wind element allowed him to throw it, then why didnt he just throw it when he first created??? the only differing factor from the kakuza fight and the pain fight is sage mode, which probably mean naruto has more control over his chakra even at a distance, which would allow him to throw the frs and keep its shape even after it left his hand, remember pa frog after naruto threw it?? he was how can he still keep such powerful chakra condensed after it has left his hand?!?! he didnt say omg look his wind element let him throw it
     
         

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    Re: sage mode rasengans

    Quote Originally Posted by sageofmyobokuzan View Post
    i think it has less to do with the wind element and more to do with natural energy, cause if the wind element allowed him to throw it, then why didnt he just throw it when he first created??? the only differing factor from the kakuza fight and the pain fight is sage mode, which probably mean naruto has more control over his chakra even at a distance, which would allow him to throw the frs and keep its shape even after it left his hand, remember pa frog after naruto threw it?? he was how can he still keep such powerful chakra condensed after it has left his hand?!?! he didnt say omg look his wind element let him throw it
    true, very true indeed. But that would not be the same case about rasengan when Naruto is in Sage Mode?
     
         

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    Re: sage mode rasengans

    Quote Originally Posted by TylerVII View Post
    I think u are wrong, there are many jutsus in the manga and in the anime that are not wind elemental but they are long ranged. The boss toad (cant remember his name) used "water bullets". He propably made the "water bullets" inside him and just threw them away with raw power or by enchansing the jutsu with pure chakra not to make them stronger but to make them fly in a long distance while keeping their shape. And yamato when he made the vortex jutsu with Naruto he uesd a long range distance water jutsu. So is there no possibility that Naruto in Sage Mode or not (does not matter) come up with an idea to improve rasengan so he can throw it to the enemy?
    You're not understanding that the basic Rasengan cannot be thrown because it needs to be under control of the user to a certain point at where they stop feeding chakra to it. after that, all you need to do is maintain the shape, which is spherical. Spheres are not very aerodynamic, therefore will not go long distances.

    When you mix a quick spinning sphere with an aerodynamic support (in this case wind-element manipulation), the spinning will provide it a means for gliding or flight.


    oh, and by the way buddy, this is a place where you can offer your opinions based on facts, never say someone is flat-out wrong. It's rude and makes you look like a jerk.
     
         

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