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    Re: Whos strongest Pein, Madara, or naruto

    i think naruto is the strongest
     
         

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    Re: Whos strongest Pein, Madara, or naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by potanezz View Post
    we see that pein cant defeat the kyuubi...
    and madara use kyuubi like a pet it measn he can control kyuubi without loosing much chakra.....
    and naruto can't control kyuubi even in 8 tailed form...
    How can you know how much chakra Madara used to control the kyuubi? The chances that he used a lot of chakra are way greater then the chances that he used little. Because if he didn't use much chakra, why didn't he attack Konoha directly after the kyuubi was sealed? The 4th was dead, along with many shinobi, he could have destroyed Konoha easily if he had enough chakra.
    And you are actually comparing Naruto and Madara on that?! Madara has a Sharingan, that's how he was able to control the Kyuubi. If he didn't had that, he would be squashed. While Naruto uses his willpower to control it and if Madara would loose control, he just has to run away while Naruto gets taken over from the inside.
    you should be ashamed that you even try to compara those two on that aspect.
     
         

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    Re: Whos strongest Pein, Madara, or naruto

    madara is way older between them, i considered him the most powerful villain, he has way more battle experience. pein is also older than naruto and has assumed he has fought very strong opponent. but for naruto he is only 16y/o but able to defeat 6body of pein, mastered few jutsus that takes longer from the previous other people (4th, j-man), plus there is still few secrets that we need to see from naruto.

    its kinda difficult to compare because their age and battle experience. but i call for naruto since he is younger.

    but how strong pein or madara when they were 16? were they the same level with naruto at his age now?
     
         

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    Re: Whos strongest Pein, Madara, or naruto

    i say naruto
     
         

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    Re: Whos strongest Pein, Madara, or naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by SSJ4Naruto View Post
    Itachi said....Madara is pathetic shell of his former self.......Since as long as Kyubi is out of Sharingan's control, Madara can't do anything........
    Yes, that is very true. Besides, acting as Akatsuki's true leader, if Madara knew there might be a chance that Pain wouldn't be able to capture Naruto, why didn't he do it himself?
     
         

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    Re: Whos strongest Pein, Madara, or naruto

    Well, technically Pein could be even stronger than Kyybi because 8 tail barely got out of His CHibaku Tensei but before that Pein used a lot of Chakra on You know fighting the whole village, Naruto, Kakashi, Nuclear Explosion + he was already bleeding thus lost most of his chakra by the time he created chibaku.
    So who knows if Pein could defeat Kyybi or not. THe thing is that we'll never know since Pein'll die soon.

    Madara huh... I wonder IF pein can disturb his chakra. IF he is able to, then i Dont see a way for Madara to kill him even if madara knows Peins location.. OK, Madara gets there and? Rinnegan will start to control his body that's all I guess... but who knows.

    If we compare Naruto vs MAdara then, I think, Madara. No, at this moment def nmadara.

    Pein vs NAruto, Pein is stronger if they fight with 100% handicap both. IF pein fights with 40% and then tries to chibaku tensei Kyybi then.. then barely Naruto lol. but we know that.

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    Re: Whos strongest Pein, Madara, or naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by potanezz View Post
    we see that pein cant defeat the kyuubi...
    and madara use kyuubi like a pet it measn he can control kyuubi without loosing much chakra.....
    and naruto can't control kyuubi even in 8 tailed form...
    I think naruto is the strongest,u should have put sasuke in the list.Hes pretty good now.
     
         

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    Re: Whos strongest Pein, Madara, or naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by roflcopter View Post
    Well, technically Pein could be even stronger than Kyybi because 8 tail barely got out of His CHibaku Tensei but before that Pein used a lot of Chakra on You know fighting the whole village, Naruto, Kakashi, Nuclear Explosion + he was already bleeding thus lost most of his chakra by the time he created chibaku.
    So who knows if Pein could defeat Kyybi or not. THe thing is that we'll never know since Pein'll die soon.

    Madara huh... I wonder IF pein can disturb his chakra. IF he is able to, then i Dont see a way for Madara to kill him even if madara knows Peins location.. OK, Madara gets there and? Rinnegan will start to control his body that's all I guess... but who knows.

    If we compare Naruto vs MAdara then, I think, Madara. No, at this moment def nmadara.

    Pein vs NAruto, Pein is stronger if they fight with 100% handicap both. IF pein fights with 40% and then tries to chibaku tensei Kyybi then.. then barely Naruto lol. but we know that.

    so
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    (madara>=<pein)>Naruto
    I take back what i said.U 100% correct.
     
         

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    Re: Whos strongest Pein, Madara, or naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by roflcopter View Post
    Well, technically Pein could be even stronger than Kyybi because 8 tail barely got out of His CHibaku Tensei but before that Pein used a lot of Chakra on You know fighting the whole village, Naruto, Kakashi, Nuclear Explosion + he was already bleeding thus lost most of his chakra by the time he created chibaku.
    So who knows if Pein could defeat Kyybi or not. THe thing is that we'll never know since Pein'll die soon.

    Madara huh... I wonder IF pein can disturb his chakra. IF he is able to, then i Dont see a way for Madara to kill him even if madara knows Peins location.. OK, Madara gets there and? Rinnegan will start to control his body that's all I guess... but who knows.

    If we compare Naruto vs MAdara then, I think, Madara. No, at this moment def nmadara.

    Pein vs NAruto, Pein is stronger if they fight with 100% handicap both. IF pein fights with 40% and then tries to chibaku tensei Kyybi then.. then barely Naruto lol. but we know that.

    so
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    (madara>=<pein)>Naruto
    I completely agree with this post. Whoever says Pain didn't defeat the Nine-Tailed Fox needs to go and reread chapters 438 and 439 again. Remember, god realm's Chibaku Tensei managed to defeat six-tailed Naruto. If Naruto hadn't released the eighth tail, he would've lost. And he managed to do this just after defeating Kakashi and destroying Konoha.

    Right now, I think Naruto is stronger than Madara. If Madara knew that capturing the Nine-Tailed Fox would've been such a difficult task, why didn't he do it himself?
     
         

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    Re: Whos strongest Pein, Madara, or naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by silenceofthelambs View Post

    Right now, I think Naruto is stronger than Madara. If Madara knew that capturing the Nine-Tailed Fox would've been such a difficult task, why didn't he do it himself?

    Well maybe hw wanted to see Nine-tail power, maybe he just used Pein as his weapon and didnt want to harm himself not one bit... He's kinda smart and not as psycho-theory-biased like Pein. But i doubt that naruto is stronger than madara. why's that? Because Madara seems to be the strongest SHinobi and if Naruto is even stronger than the strongest shinobi then there is no point of continuing this story.
    And one more thing - madara knows everything about Naruto, Naruto knows nothing about Madara. Even if Naruto is "stronger' in tech's, Madara is smarter and wiser, he'll just counter the tech's.
     
         

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    Re: Whos strongest Pein, Madara, or naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by potanezz View Post
    we see that pein cant defeat the kyuubi...
    and madara use kyuubi like a pet it measn he can control kyuubi without loosing much chakra.....
    and naruto can't control kyuubi even in 8 tailed form...
    No one know anything about Madara's powers,all we know his Teleporting Jutsu
    and Pain is stronger than Naruto!!! Naruto was lucky when he fight pain because Deva path powers was disabled till naruto destroyed 4 pains and Nagato already exhausted.
    Naruto won't have a chance if Pain at his full power
     
         

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    Re: Whos strongest Pein, Madara, or naruto

    Naruto
     
         

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    Re: Whos strongest Pein, Madara, or naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by roflcopter View Post
    Well maybe hw wanted to see Nine-tail power, maybe he just used Pein as his weapon and didnt want to harm himself not one bit... He's kinda smart and not as psycho-theory-biased like Pein. But i doubt that naruto is stronger than madara. why's that? Because Madara seems to be the strongest SHinobi and if Naruto is even stronger than the strongest shinobi then there is no point of continuing this story.
    And one more thing - madara knows everything about Naruto, Naruto knows nothing about Madara. Even if Naruto is "stronger' in tech's, Madara is smarter and wiser, he'll just counter the tech's.
    So, even if Madara witnessed the power of the Nine-Tailed Fox, do you think he would be able to capture it on his own? Sure, Madara may be smarter and wiser than Naruto, but Naruto definitely has more raw power than Madara does. And yes, even though Madara knows more about Naruto than Naruto knows about him, who's to say that Nagato won't reveal some facts about Akatsuki?
     
         

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    Re: Whos strongest Pein, Madara, or naruto

    Naruto
     
         

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    Re: Whos strongest Pein, Madara, or naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by Nameer View Post
    No one know anything about Madara's powers,all we know his Teleporting Jutsu
    and Pain is stronger than Naruto!!! Naruto was lucky when he fight pain because Deva path powers was disabled till naruto destroyed 4 pains and Nagato already exhausted.
    Naruto won't have a chance if Pain at his full power
    Yes, I agree. We haven't seen much of Madara's powers, thus bringing into question the extent of his power. And I definitely agree with the fact that if Pain was at his full power, he would have defeated Naruto. I don't think Naruto would have been able to defeat four Pain bodies if god realm Pain was constantly sending him away with Shinra Tensei.
     
         

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    Re: Whos strongest Pein, Madara, or naruto

    Madara, at this moment!
     
         

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    Re: Whos strongest Pein, Madara, or naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by silenceofthelambs View Post
    Yes, I agree. We haven't seen much of Madara's powers, thus bringing into question the extent of his power. And I definitely agree with the fact that if Pain was at his full power, he would have defeated Naruto. I don't think Naruto would have been able to defeat four Pain bodies if god realm Pain was constantly sending him away with Shinra Tensei.
    Ye lol i arleady made a thread about this :P


    Well still Naruto has more raw power then Madara but Choji has more raw power than Neji doesnt mean he;s stronger :P
    WHole team Kakashi wasnt able to do any harm to Madara. WIthout knowing madaras secret it'll be useless to attack him. So maybe u're right an Pein will reveal madaras secret but who knows,m maybe even Pein doesnt know it...
     
         

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