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    question about the sharringan

    if the sharingan can copy ANY jutsu except kg then if the opponent uses a water jutsu and sasuke try's to copy will it work b/c sasuke doesnt have water as an element if yes then that is a contradiction in the manga
    this also proves kakashi has atleast 4 elements
     
         

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    Re: question about the sharringan

    He could still probably copy it, but the jutsu wouldn't be near as powerful. Else Sasuke could just copy FRS.

    Actually wait no, Kakashi said he couldn't copy FRS... so the answer to your question is no, Sharingan cannot copy all non KG techniques. Or they can copy them, but whether they can actually use the jutsu or not depends on the user's general skill.. I doubt elemental alignments could stop a true master of techniques from using any justu.
     
         

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    Re: question about the sharringan

    Quote Originally Posted by anbu hasashi View Post
    if the sharingan can copy ANY jutsu except kg then if the opponent uses a water jutsu and sasuke try's to copy will it work b/c sasuke doesnt have water as an element if yes then that is a contradiction in the manga
    this also proves kakashi has atleast 4 elements
    yep but as Xero says it woulnd be so powerfull.

    remember kakashi? he ''Has'' all elements because he copied the jutsus
     
         

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    Re: question about the sharringan

    I think he cannot copy bloodline jutsus either.

    It has actually got nothing to do with his elements, he should be able to add them as Kakashi did.
     
         

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    Re: question about the sharringan

    What's KG?
     
         

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    Re: question about the sharringan

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    What's KG?
    Kekkei Genkai...Bloodline limits...
     
         

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    Re: question about the sharringan

    need to have a affinity to be able to perform the tech aswell in the jutsu they are doing.
     
         

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    Re: question about the sharringan

    Quote Originally Posted by anbu hasashi View Post
    if the sharingan can copy ANY jutsu except kg then if the opponent uses a water jutsu and sasuke try's to copy will it work b/c sasuke doesnt have water as an element if yes then that is a contradiction in the manga
    this also proves kakashi has atleast 4 elements
    OK there is no contradiction Xero is right about the sharringan can copy those jutsu but its power is not equal to the org jutsu

    Quote Originally Posted by Xero View Post
    He could still probably copy it, but the jutsu wouldn't be near as powerful. Else Sasuke could just copy FRS.

    Actually wait no, Kakashi said he couldn't copy FRS... so the answer to your question is no, Sharingan cannot copy all non KG techniques. Or they can copy them, but whether they can actually use the jutsu or not depends on the user's general skill.. I doubt elemental alignments could stop a true master of techniques from using any justu.
    Kakashi view on the sharringan is not a great example for the true power of the sharrinagan, he can use the sharrinagan but he does not have the KG when Kakashi got his sharringan it was truned on and already had its powers, kakashi does not have the chackra to fully control it, that's why he covers it
     
         

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    Re: question about the sharringan

    Im gonna have to say that you have to be able to use the element to use the jutsu's from that element.
    kakashi just cant use wind element but can use all other elements however his main element is lighting and can use all jutsu of that element.
    he cannot use jutsu of the other elements that we would consider class S
     
         

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    Re: question about the sharringan

    saying that they can use it but not as powerful doesnt make sense if they dont have the element that means they have never felt the chakra dont have the chakra how the hell do they preform it all they really do is copy the hand signs
     
         

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    Re: question about the sharringan

    i think most people are braindead when it comes to the sharingan you cant just copy jutsu with it.... have you ever seen itachi or sasuke copy jutsu? hell no!!!! kakashi can do it because he is a genius he uses the sharingan to follow handseals as all sharingan user can but kakashi can also mimick the person and since the sharingan can see chakra as colors and whatnot kakashi knows how much chakra to exert in order to activate the jutsu... he also has a vast knowlege of jutsu and how they work so copying a jutsus seals and using a specific type of jutsu just by watching someone is his skill its something unique to KAKASHI not unique to the SHARINGAN... honestly i dont think people read the manga...


    im srry im in a pissy mood tonight ignore all the crap i said....
     
         

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    Re: question about the sharringan

    Quote Originally Posted by Koo View Post
    i think most people are braindead when it comes to the sharingan you cant just copy jutsu with it.... have you ever seen itachi or sasuke copy jutsu? hell no!!!! kakashi can do it because he is a genius he uses the sharingan to follow handseals as all sharingan user can but kakashi can also mimick the person and since the sharingan can see chakra as colors and whatnot kakashi knows how much chakra to exert in order to activate the jutsu... he also has a vast knowlege of jutsu and how they work so copying a jutsus seals and using a specific type of jutsu just by watching someone is his skill its something unique to KAKASHI not unique to the SHARINGAN... honestly i dont think people read the manga...


    im srry im in a pissy mood tonight ignore all the crap i said....
    I agree Kakashi cant use his Sharingan like everybody else so he had to make use of it in other ways
     
         

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    Re: question about the sharringan

    Quote Originally Posted by Xero View Post
    He could still probably copy it, but the jutsu wouldn't be near as powerful. Else Sasuke could just copy FRS.

    Actually wait no, Kakashi said he couldn't copy FRS... so the answer to your question is no, Sharingan cannot copy all non KG techniques. Or they can copy them, but whether they can actually use the jutsu or not depends on the user's general skill.. I doubt elemental alignments could stop a true master of techniques from using any justu.
    100% what he said!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Koo View Post
    i think most people are braindead when it comes to the sharingan you cant just copy jutsu with it.... have you ever seen itachi or sasuke copy jutsu? hell no!!!! kakashi can do it because he is a genius he uses the sharingan to follow handseals as all sharingan user can but kakashi can also mimick the person and since the sharingan can see chakra as colors and whatnot kakashi knows how much chakra to exert in order to activate the jutsu... he also has a vast knowlege of jutsu and how they work so copying a jutsus seals and using a specific type of jutsu just by watching someone is his skill its something unique to KAKASHI not unique to the SHARINGAN... honestly i dont think people read the manga...


    im srry im in a pissy mood tonight ignore all the crap i said....


    and this too!!
     
         
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    Re: question about the sharringan

    Erm...Kakashi has the mangekyou, to say his sharingan is limited since the transplant is a tad silly considering he has activated the sharingans "true power" is quite a feat if hes a 2nd rate sharingan user.
    In fact hes the first non uchiha to recieve mangekyou, and the 4th overall (madara and his brother, then itachi, then kakashi, then sasuke)

    It has been stated by sasuke and itachi that kakashi can use his sharingan as good as an uchiha-but he gets worn out easily because he does not have an uchiha body.

    Uchihas have high chakra capacities, sasuke as a genin had 2 chidori shots, kakashi said he only had 3, and he was an elite jounin and a ex ANBU member.

    The reason kakashi cannot copy FRS is because it requires either

    a)a brain that can look left and right at the same time, in other words a bigger genius even than kakashi or shikamaru
    b)shadow clones all putting chakra into the jutsu

    Kakashi has nowhere near the chakra supply naruto has, if kakashi ever did manage FRS it would use 90%+ of his chakra capacity, FRS is an amazingly powerful jutsu that only naruto is capable of.

    Sharingan can copy anything as long as it ISNT

    a)a KG
    b)An element they dont have (surely the kakuzu arc showed clearly no ninja can use 5 elements, and kakashi MANGA wise only has 3, water, earth and electricity, fire was added in the anime, which is not the true story)
    c)beyond the users chakra control, this is my point about byakagun with hinata vs sakura.

    The sharingan can see the chakra control, but as lee said, if you cant keep up, theres no use in seeing it.

    Seeing it and using it are two different things, and if you cant keep up, who cares?

    d)beyond chakra capacity.

    The sharingan does have limits certainly, it is also possible to beat a mangekyou sharingan now despite it being said you cant for 390+ chapters, oh well.
     
         

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    Re: question about the sharringan

    actually sharingan can copy every teqnique but it depends on its user's abilities.
    yes...kakashi copied several water jutsus but dont forget one thing: he can do water teqniques when he is IN the water(remember zabuza arc) or water is nearby(remember kakuzu hidan arc).he makes hand seals and controles water with it.
    so sharingan can do various types of jutsus and types of chakra elements if this element is nereby.I hope you understand what I mean.
    as for frs....this teqnique has no had seals that's why sharingan user cant copy it.
     
         

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    Re: question about the sharringan

    Quote Originally Posted by zumorikato View Post
    Good answer, and I understand what you are saying. Just one Question, Why then can he copy a Rasengan as there are also no seals involved?
    he can not copy rasengan.he LEARNED it from yondaime
    chears!
     
         

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    Re: question about the sharringan

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    Sweetness, thanx bro.
    np
     
         

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    Re: question about the sharringan

    ....He didnt learn it from yondaime, where in the manga does it state kakashi learned it from yondaime?
     
         

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    Re: question about the sharringan

    Wasn't it something like that he couldn't master it so he created the chidori but later did master it? at least thats what I got out of it. Never really bothered to check how Kakashi managed to learn rasengan. But I'm sure the fourth was mentioned when Kakashi was talking about it.

    And about the sharingan, people tend to forget that even before having the sharingan Kakashi was way beyond what any genin (with the exception of Neji) was when Naruto & co started. I think the fact he was a genious really helped in his usage of the sharingan otherwise every Uchiha would be known as copy ninja :D

    Also I don't think Itachi needs to copy any jutsu's (saw someone mentioning this earlier) I assume he already has a good number of jutsu's and is skilled enough he doesn't need to copy anything to beat his opponent.
     
         

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    Re: question about the sharringan

    in the anime. Not sure if its in the manga, but Kakashi's says he learned it from the Fourth when he's teaching Naruto how to make FRS
     
         

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    Re: question about the sharringan

    sasuke couldnt copy FRS as neither could kakashi cause its attack is to fast to read
     
         

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    Re: question about the sharringan

    Quote Originally Posted by squiremarcus View Post
    Im gonna have to say that you have to be able to use the element to use the jutsu's from that element.
    kakashi just cant use wind element but can use all other elements however his main element is lighting and can use all jutsu of that element.
    he cannot use jutsu of the other elements that we would consider class S
    isnt rasengan a wind element...?

    anyways.. i always say if u train u can do any type of move....
    besides KG & blood line limits...
    But as far as sharringan.... Itachi & sasuke are cocky...lol...
    so they wouldnt copy a jutsu anymore cause they dont need too...
    the last time i seen any type of jutsu copy from itachi was (actually it was a reverse lol)
    when he was fightin kurenai and he told her genjutsu on that level wont work...lol...

    kakashi does it cause hes nice...lol..
    i mean he trained and was good already...
    the sharringan made him better along with training of course...
     
         

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    Re: question about the sharringan

    i only see kakachi copy water type jutsu or other that not use elemental
     
         

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    Re: question about the sharringan

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion of the Red Sand View Post
    yep but as Xero says it woulnd be so powerfull.

    remember kakashi? he ''Has'' all elements because he copied the jutsus
    Kakashi has never used a Wind natured jutsu, and he's only used a fire one during the anime. I think there is always one element a ninja can never use. (Exceptions like the Rin'Nigan are there though)
     
         

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    Re: question about the sharringan

    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlink View Post
    ....He didnt learn it from yondaime, where in the manga does it state kakashi learned it from yondaime?
    in the chapter(kakashi gaiden) where kakashi first show's is chidori to yodaime he speak's of a hard tecnic and when he shows it to naruto while wind training he sais that yodaime tought it to him
     
         

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