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    Re: Naruto & Sasuke's - Fujin & Raijin - The Reunion

    You can try denying the myths in Naruto but when they are put on a two page spread I would simply accept the mythology ^^

    Anyways thanks for all the other posts =)

    I'm not completely sure that Kakashi and Naruto are undercover Senjus, there are other possibilities, I think.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto & Sasuke's - Fujin & Raijin - The Reunion

    read all of it and great theory man awesome
     
         

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    Re: Naruto & Sasuke's - Fujin & Raijin - The Reunion

    Quote Originally Posted by twistedlink View Post
    Notice how everyones ignored you mate?

    Anytime someone puts good ole realism into the threads at NB they get ignored.

    This is a bunch of fan-fic rubbish, simply put, no actual basis at all.
    i didnt ignore his post, im havent even said that i 100% agree with the thread, all i said was that their is a possibility of naruto and kakashi have senju ancestry, there are plenty of people in konoha who arent shinobi, the senju probably married people outside of their clan which forms most of the population of konoha today. cause i doubt the most powerful clan to exist in the shinobi world just disappeared. so is it realistic to think that there is a possibility of naruto and kakashi having senju blood in them?? if there isnt and i am totally off-base in my deductions pls tell me, im open to refutation
     
         

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    Re: Naruto & Sasuke's - Fujin & Raijin - The Reunion

    Quote Originally Posted by chickmashine View Post
    Well, the assumption that Kakashi and Naruto are Senju is an old theory I made. It's pretty simple actually. Here:



    The picture shows all Hokages. You see, by my understanding, Konohagakure was made up of Senju and Uchiha, only. Uchiha has left, leaves only Senjus. There are no other people there:



    That's why I can't help but think that both Kakashi and Naruto are Senjus. Heritage plays a great role in Naruto.
    The picture alludes that only the Hokages are all Senju. Konohagakure however, is not only made up Senju since the Uchiha Clan was assasinated. There's the Aburame Clan (Shino), Hyuuga Clan, Akimichi Clan (Chouji), Yamanaka Clan (Ino), Inuzuka Clan (Kiba), and perhaps many other clans.

    There is possibility that Kakashi is Senju, however, there is very little proof to prove this, and can only leave this assumption based mostly on speculation.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto & Sasuke's - Fujin & Raijin - The Reunion

    Quote Originally Posted by Chakra View Post
    The picture alludes that only the Hokages are all Senju. Konohagakure however, is not only made up Senju since the Uchiha Clan was assasinated. There's the Aburame Clan (Shino), Hyuuga Clan, Akimichi Clan (Chouji), Yamanaka Clan (Ino), Inuzuka Clan (Kiba), and perhaps many other clans.

    There is possibility that Kakashi is Senju, however, there is very little proof to prove this, and can only leave this assumption based mostly on speculation.
    ya i get what your saying, i just find it weird that naruto and kakashi, well and sakura, are the only major konoha shinobi whose clans we know nothing about, or that they are even apart of a clan. i think kishi has done this for a reason, why show that most leaf shinobi are part of a clan, and then have naruto and kakashi not be apart of any clan whatsoever???
     
         

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    Re: Naruto & Sasuke's - Fujin & Raijin - The Reunion

    I looked everywhere on this site, and this theory's never been posted before. Must have read it somewhere else. Sorry! Closest thing to this I've found was http://www.narutobase.net/forums/nar...tsu-vajra.html. ^^
     
         

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    Re: Naruto & Sasuke's - Fujin & Raijin - The Reunion

    wow.... i never looked that closely to the cover pages before.. crazy..
    thanks alot for this. it really made me look at things differently
     
         

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    Re: Naruto & Sasuke's - Fujin & Raijin - The Reunion

    Yeah, Xero, I've posted this theory on other sites. Like Narutoforum and Tailed Fox.

    So I'm not surprised that you've read it before ^^

    However the theory on Vajra was a copy and paste from WraithX959: proof That's stealing which really pisses me off :mad:

    Quote Originally Posted by Chakra View Post
    The picture alludes that only the Hokages are all Senju. Konohagakure however, is not only made up Senju since the Uchiha Clan was assasinated. There's the Aburame Clan (Shino), Hyuuga Clan, Akimichi Clan (Chouji), Yamanaka Clan (Ino), Inuzuka Clan (Kiba), and perhaps many other clans.

    There is possibility that Kakashi is Senju, however, there is very little proof to prove this, and can only leave this assumption based mostly on speculation.
    Minato belongs to the Namikaze clan but according to Tobi he belongs to Senju. And Hiruzen's clan name is Sarutobi. Yet, according to Tobi they all belong to Senju. So instead of saying that there is the Senju clan as in "Tsunade Senju" I'm suggesting that the "Senju clan" is an alliance of several smaller clans such as the ones that you counted and clans like Sarutobi or Namikaze which have been named Senju.

    What do you think? Because if we don't assume that this is true then we can't explain why Tobi reffered to all the Hokages as Senju, if two of them clearly don't have the last name Senju.

    Senju reffers to an alliance of several clans which is why I count Kakashi and Naruto as Senju.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto & Sasuke's - Fujin & Raijin - The Reunion

    Thanks
     
         

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    Re: Naruto & Sasuke's - Fujin & Raijin - The Reunion

    Quote Originally Posted by Chakra View Post
    The picture alludes that only the Hokages are all Senju. Konohagakure however, is not only made up Senju since the Uchiha Clan was assasinated. There's the Aburame Clan (Shino), Hyuuga Clan, Akimichi Clan (Chouji), Yamanaka Clan (Ino), Inuzuka Clan (Kiba), and perhaps many other clans.

    There is possibility that Kakashi is Senju, however, there is very little proof to prove this, and can only leave this assumption based mostly on speculation.
    its possible that all the other clans where once senju but then broke off
     
         

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    Re: Naruto & Sasuke's - Fujin & Raijin - The Reunion

    Quote Originally Posted by chickmashine View Post

    But look at this now:


    Now who cares about the girls... I mean Kishimoto definitely doesn't. But look at the background! A typhoon and Naruto and Sasuke facing away from Sakura and Ino who are in conflict. They literally turn their backs on the conflict. The typhoon is the place where Sasuke and Naruto forget their fight.
    I do care about the girls! Because their relationship is resembles Naruto's with Sasuke. You say that Sakura and Ino are in conflict but u are wrong. The used to be in conflict! In early childhood Ino helped Sakura by becoming her friend because she was always teased as forehead girl. Naruto was all alone and he was hated and feared. Sasuke on the other hand had lost his family and was alone like Naruto. And as far as i know the only "games" Naruto ever played in his childhood was with Sasuke. Because they both knew the same pain it was easier for them to come closer to each other. But the problems with both relationships started over a trivial conflict. Till then Sakura was always in Ino's shadow and when Sakura made it clear that she loved Sasuke the friendship between the 2 girls shattered and the conflict started. The conflict who would "win" Sasuke's heart. On the other hand Naruto while in the academy was a dropout or was considered one unlike Sasuke who was the top student.Also remember that Naruto fought desperatly his whole life in order to be acknowledged. When team 7 started their journey Naruto was always the one to cause the most trouble. But as time passed on Naruto's abilities increased dramaticaly! Sakura was only able to watch their backs! And Sasuke although he improved, his improvement was not at the same lvl as Naruto's. In the meanwhile Naruto growing stronger and stronger sought to be acknowledged by Sasuke as an equal ninja. But Sasuke was from a proud clan and he was considered genius and would not acknowledge Naruto's strength who used to be a dropout. Also Naruto's impressive progress which was shown in their missions made Sasuke uncertain about himself who sought power to avenge his clan. And all of these lead to the battle in the hospital's roof which pretty much "forced" Sasuke to seek power from wherever he could gain it, even if the person who gave him the powers he wanted was Orochimaru! On the other hand Sakura managed to get out of Ino's shadow during the chunnin exams and ended their conflict there. But she was also desperate herself because since team 7 started her progress was zero and all she could do was to rely on Naruto. And she sought power (like Sasuke) but not in order to destroy but to protect those she loved and cared about. And that is why she became Tsunade's pupil which lead her to becoming an excellent medical ninja full of determination. So the conflict between her and Ino is history and Sakura is a much more advanced ninja than Ino is now. The same goes for Naruto and Sasuke too. Their confict is still uresolved but it will be over soon.

    Conclusion
    Since we can't see Naruto's and Sasuke's Face Kishimoto used the gilrs to represent them. Sakura represents Naruto and Ino Sasuke. If u watch them carefully u can see that they are no longer in conflic. They both acknoweledge each other's power. They are allies. On top of that their faces are full of determination and their body stances shows that they are ready to take any enemy down no matter what! It's like they are saying "Come if you dare!" Another notice is that Ino (Sasuke) holds a katana which resembles Sasuke's weapon and Sakura (Naruto) holds a katana that has way too many times appeared in covers been holded by Naruto. Like u i don't believe in coincidences.

    Assumption: Sasuke will arrive after Naruto will kill Nagato or finsh the battle with him but he will be too weak to continue fighting. On top of that Danzou will start his coupe de te or however it is spelled after Naruto's fight. So Sasuke's arrival (propably by coincidence) will be just in time to save the situation. Because the village is pretty much destroyed there is nothing left for him to do and he also wants to kill Danzou and the Elders. Danzou's plan will be already revealed so Sasuke and his team will take care Danzou and the ANBU Root division with the blessings of the Hokage, Naruto, Sakura and everyone else in the village. What will happen to the Elders idk. If they are involved in the coupe de te they will be killed too. But one thing is certain to me. Danzou is goind down by Sasuke's hand
     
         

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    Re: Naruto & Sasuke's - Fujin & Raijin - The Reunion

    Niice Work On That But I Agree With Like 80 Percent Of The Theory
     
         

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    Re: Naruto & Sasuke's - Fujin & Raijin - The Reunion

    Quote Originally Posted by TylerVII View Post
    I do care about the girls! Because their relationship is resembles Naruto's with Sasuke. You say that Sakura and Ino are in conflict but u are wrong. The used to be in conflict! In early childhood Ino helped Sakura by becoming her friend because she was always teased as forehead girl. Naruto was all alone and he was hated and feared. Sasuke on the other hand had lost his family and was alone like Naruto. And as far as i know the only "games" Naruto ever played in his childhood was with Sasuke. Because they both knew the same pain it was easier for them to come closer to each other. But the problems with both relationships started over a trivial conflict. Till then Sakura was always in Ino's shadow and when Sakura made it clear that she loved Sasuke the friendship between the 2 girls shattered and the conflict started. The conflict who would "win" Sasuke's heart. On the other hand Naruto while in the academy was a dropout or was considered one unlike Sasuke who was the top student.Also remember that Naruto fought desperatly his whole life in order to be acknowledged. When team 7 started their journey Naruto was always the one to cause the most trouble. But as time passed on Naruto's abilities increased dramaticaly! Sakura was only able to watch their backs! And Sasuke although he improved, his improvement was not at the same lvl as Naruto's. In the meanwhile Naruto growing stronger and stronger sought to be acknowledged by Sasuke as an equal ninja. But Sasuke was from a proud clan and he was considered genius and would not acknowledge Naruto's strength who used to be a dropout. Also Naruto's impressive progress which was shown in their missions made Sasuke uncertain about himself who sought power to avenge his clan. And all of these lead to the battle in the hospital's roof which pretty much "forced" Sasuke to seek power from wherever he could gain it, even if the person who gave him the powers he wanted was Orochimaru! On the other hand Sakura managed to get out of Ino's shadow during the chunnin exams and ended their conflict there. But she was also desperate herself because since team 7 started her progress was zero and all she could do was to rely on Naruto. And she sought power (like Sasuke) but not in order to destroy but to protect those she loved and cared about. And that is why she became Tsunade's pupil which lead her to becoming an excellent medical ninja full of determination. So the conflict between her and Ino is history and Sakura is a much more advanced ninja than Ino is now. The same goes for Naruto and Sasuke too. Their confict is still uresolved but it will be over soon.

    Conclusion
    Since we can't see Naruto's and Sasuke's Face Kishimoto used the gilrs to represent them. Sakura represents Naruto and Ino Sasuke. If u watch them carefully u can see that they are no longer in conflic. They both acknoweledge each other's power. They are allies. On top of that their faces are full of determination and their body stances shows that they are ready to take any enemy down no matter what! It's like they are saying "Come if you dare!" Another notice is that Ino (Sasuke) holds a katana which resembles Sasuke's weapon and Sakura (Naruto) holds a katana that has way too many times appeared in covers been holded by Naruto. Like u i don't believe in coincidences.

    Assumption: Sasuke will arrive after Naruto will kill Nagato or finsh the battle with him but he will be too weak to continue fighting. On top of that Danzou will start his coupe de te or however it is spelled after Naruto's fight. So Sasuke's arrival (propably by coincidence) will be just in time to save the situation. Because the village is pretty much destroyed there is nothing left for him to do and he also wants to kill Danzou and the Elders. Danzou's plan will be already revealed so Sasuke and his team will take care Danzou and the ANBU Root division with the blessings of the Hokage, Naruto, Sakura and everyone else in the village. What will happen to the Elders idk. If they are involved in the coupe de te they will be killed too. But one thing is certain to me. Danzou is goind down by Sasuke's hand
    Either you are very intuitive and are able to synch-in to Masashi Kishimoto's thoughts...or. You are him himself, which would make this an honour. Thanks.

    This post, quoted above, is accurate to the bitter-end; and, in all honesty I feel as though I should thank you.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto & Sasuke's - Fujin & Raijin - The Reunion

    This theory is just freakin amazing. Really nice work and thanks for sharing your findings.:D
     
         

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    Re: Naruto & Sasuke's - Fujin & Raijin - The Reunion

    Quote Originally Posted by dredblack7 View Post
    Either you are very intuitive and are able to synch-in to Masashi Kishimoto's thoughts...or. You are him himself, which would make this an honour. Thanks.

    This post, quoted above, is accurate to the bitter-end; and, in all honesty I feel as though I should thank you.
    lol thnx for your kind words, i wish i was Kishi but unfortunatly i am not. Also if it was not chickmashine's theory i wouldn't be able to come up with this post. The reason i made it was to contribute to his theory
     
         

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    Re: Naruto & Sasuke's - Fujin & Raijin - The Reunion

    Your predictions were pretty spot on
     
         

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