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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 585 Discussion and 586 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by KnowledgeGod View Post
    I think Itachi activated Izanami....He sacrificed one of his Sharingans by doing so. That's why one of his eyes is pitched black...Itachi maybe finished but he did what he was set off to do. Sorry little brother I lied about talking to you....logic!
    theres a page three chapters ago when itachi got hit and one eye was pitch black as well? don't know maybe he activated it before the flashback.who knows?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 585 Discussion and 586 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by pdaworld View Post
    Everything in bold crushes that statement. Sasuke doesn't have it. I think you just need to unlock both eye abilities whatever they are to use Susanoo. Which with sasuke would be Amaterasu and blaze release in the other
    Um, no. You guys are taking what was depicted in the manga out of context. Sasuke simply decided not to use Tsukuyomi because it wasn't necessary. Instead, he used something a little less resource consuming (something that wouldn't require as much chakra and would inflict less fatigue).

    What he used was a generic genjutsu to break the genjutsu Itachi was in, similar to the one shown here:



    He's already displayed the ability to use Tsukuyomi here:



    It was also stated in the manga that the requirement to use Susano'o is awakening both ocular techniques--Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi.

    So yeah, try gathering more concrete information from the manga before jumping to blatantly false and absurd conclusions.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 585 Discussion and 586 Predictions

    VERY good chapter... Sasuke hasn't mastered Tsukiyomi, but he and Itachi are really making this an interesting fight. I just wish there was a little more taijutsu...

    Itachi definitely activated Izanami since one of his eyes are missing in the last panel. Izanami might be Kabuto living out his life in an alternate reality without noticing while his body is unconscious in the "real" reality... or something like that. Leaving Itachi to just get the answers out of his real body with Tsukiyomi... like he said he would lol. This chapter was great!
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 585 Discussion and 586 Predictions

    What do you guys think about the whole part when they're all talking about the uchiha name? Itachi says Kabuto has no meaning in taking that name but auto says their IS a meaning with a mini flashback panel. Does Kabuto have some connection to the Uchiha clan or what?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 585 Discussion and 586 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by choft View Post
    Not true. In Naruto's battle against Pain, he could only use two Rasenshurikens before Sage Mode ran out.
    have you been reading my young friend... he has the dna of the juggos clan in which one of their natural abilities is automatically taking in nature chackra... naruto can't do that .
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 585 Discussion and 586 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by choft View Post
    Not true. In Naruto's battle against Pain, he could only use two Rasenshurikens before Sage Mode ran out.
    Yes, but he can still recover Natural Chakra once he has ran out of it,right?

    Look at the post you just replied to. I said he has VIRTUALLY unlimited chakra.

    Go grab a dictionary or pay more attention to English class.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 585 Discussion and 586 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by edo tensai wilmaso View Post
    have you been reading my young friend... he has the dna of the juggos clan in which one of their natural abilities is automatically taking in nature chackra... naruto can't do that .
    Plus this, haven't thought of that. This guy is keen.

    Yes he has jugo's abilities. Kabuto is taking in natural chakra with jugo like Jiraiya with that two old froggies.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 585 Discussion and 586 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Forget Me Not View Post
    He meant the value of them is in their name or bloodline and not them in themselves.

    In other words, the Uchiha Clan is the source of their power and was prosperous before they came along. So no, he doesn't have any known connections to the Uchiha Clan based on what we've seen from the manga.
    In other words, Kabuto is saying, "at least they are known and they know themselves because of their clan name". Unlike him.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 585 Discussion and 586 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by edo tensai wilmaso View Post
    have you been reading my young friend... he has the dna of the juggos clan in which one of their natural abilities is automatically taking in nature chackra... naruto can't do that .
    Ah yeah, good point, I forgot about that.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 585 Discussion and 586 Predictions

    I don't like that Kabuto lived after two Tsukuyomi. Especially since Itachi's alone put Kakashi in a coma. It seems like a plothole. Other than that it was awesome.

    Sweet triple post Shouten!!!!!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 585 Discussion and 586 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Thefairytailwizard View Post
    What do you guys think about the whole part when they're all talking about the uchiha name? Itachi says Kabuto has no meaning in taking that name but auto says their IS a meaning with a mini flashback panel. Does Kabuto have some connection to the Uchiha clan or what?
    An Uchiha may have attacked him and his family in the past. Just my quess.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 585 Discussion and 586 Predictions

    Oh it still would have been an awesome twist. Kishimoto doesn't give enough of those.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 585 Discussion and 586 Predictions

    Itachi is NOT finished yet. He promised Sasuke the whole truth and we all know Itachi does not go back on his word.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 585 Discussion and 586 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostofthewind View Post
    I don't like that Kabuto lived after two Tsukuyomi. Especially since Itachi's alone put Kakashi in a coma. It seems like a plothole. Other than that it was awesome.
    Only one Tsukuyomi was cast which was Itachi's. But neither of the respective genjutsu of Sasuke and Itachi were designated toward Kabuto; they were used on each other in order to break the previous genjutsu they were in in order to in turn use Susano'o in order to counter the Orochimaru duplicate.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 585 Discussion and 586 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Totsuka No Tsurugi View Post
    it looks like kabuto is little bit to late, izanami already activated
    That's right!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 585 Discussion and 586 Predictions

    :shrug::shrug:im slapping myself with this one:flaw::flaw:

    eneryone is saying that izanami is complete because of that missing eye??
    this missing eye is quite interesting.

    i think that everytime itachi has gooten murked by kabuto in the last couple of chapters only twice in chapter 582 and 585

    and both times one eye is missing ...so what im tryna get across and please feel free to discuss and help me becuz i have no clue ...is that when he takes a fatal blow his eye is gone lmao i don't know it's weird
    here in the bottom right.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 585 Discussion and 586 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Thefairytailwizard View Post
    What do you guys think about the whole part when they're all talking about the uchiha name? Itachi says Kabuto has no meaning in taking that name but auto says their IS a meaning with a mini flashback panel. Does Kabuto have some connection to the Uchiha clan or what?
    He meant the value of them is in their name or bloodline and not them in themselves.

    In other words, the Uchiha Clan is the source of their power and was prosperous before they came along. So no, he doesn't have any known connections to the Uchiha Clan based on what we've seen from the manga.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 585 Discussion and 586 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by edo tensai wilmaso View Post
    :shrug::shrug:im slapping myself with this one:flaw::flaw:

    eneryone is saying that izanami is complete because of that missing eye??
    this missing eye is quite interesting.

    i think that everytime itachi has gooten murked by kabuto in the last couple of chapters only twice in chapter 582 and 585

    and both times one eye is missing ...so what im tryna get across and please feel free to discuss and help me becuz i have no clue ...is that when he takes a fatal blow his eye is gone lmao i don't know it's weird
    here in the bottom right.
    I couldn't take this seriously just because of the word murked. :sy:
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 585 Discussion and 586 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Yukimura View Post
    VERY good chapter... Sasuke hasn't mastered Tsukiyomi, but he and Itachi are really making this an interesting fight. I just wish there was a little more taijutsu...

    Itachi definitely activated Izanami since one of his eyes are missing in the last panel. Izanami might be Kabuto living out his life in an alternate reality without noticing while his body is unconscious in the "real" reality... or something like that. Leaving Itachi to just get the answers out of his real body with Tsukiyomi... like he said he would lol. This chapter was great!
    Maybe Izamani is a genjutsu that makes Kabuto believe he won the war and Kabut deactivates IWR.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 585 Discussion and 586 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostofthewind View Post
    I don't like that Kabuto lived after two Tsukuyomi. Especially since Itachi's alone put Kakashi in a coma. It seems like a plothole. Other than that it was awesome.

    Sweet triple post Shouten!!!!!
    Well is it a bad thing?

    But nonetheless, I really believe Kabuto will pull this off. No other choice but to wait and see
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 585 Discussion and 586 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by edo tensai wilmaso View Post
    :shrug::shrug:im slapping myself with this one:flaw::flaw:

    eneryone is saying that izanami is complete because of that missing eye??
    this missing eye is quite interesting.

    i think that everytime itachi has gooten murked by kabuto in the last couple of chapters only twice in chapter 582 and 585

    and both times one eye is missing ...so what im tryna get across and please feel free to discuss and help me becuz i have no clue ...is that when he takes a fatal blow his eye is gone lmao i don't know it's weird
    here in the bottom right.
    Exactly. The same thing also occurred with Edo Madara (except it appeared in both eyes). See here:



    So what was shown in the panel where one of Itachi's eyes are seemingly missing does not mean Izanami was activated. It could either mean it was in fact activated, or it was actually effectively negated.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 585 Discussion and 586 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Forget Me Not View Post
    Exactly. The same thing also occurred with Edo Madara (except it appeared in both eyes). See here:

    So what was shown in the panel where one of Itachi's eyes are seemingly missing does not mean Izanami was activated. It could either mean it was in fact activated, or it was actually effectively negated.
    If you look closely at the picture of Itachi you can see his eye. It is just very faint. In 585 The eye is gone.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 585 Discussion and 586 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Photon View Post
    i wonder if now that kabuto has cut itachi in half in he can retake control of him with the talisman he was holding at the begging. i hope not i really want too see inzanami
    i think kabuto is probably under itachi's tsukoyomi
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 585 Discussion and 586 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Forget Me Not View Post
    Exactly. The same thing also occurred with Edo Madara (except it appeared in both eyes). See here:



    So what was shown in the panel where one of Itachi's eyes are seemingly missing does not mean Izanami was activated. It could either mean it was in fact activated, or it was actually effectively negated.
    nice bro i was gonna check out the madara fight as well to see if that happen too, mm i personally think it hasn't been activated yet , that was just a cliff hanger to make ppl think he activated it. kishi is such a troll lmao
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 585 Discussion and 586 Predictions

    It was a good chapter. I'm sad it was short. Can't wait till the next one is out.
    Also What happened when he pulled out Jiroubou??
     
         

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