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    Izanami and Kotoamatsukami

    Ok i just finished reading this weeks manga and i was wondering if any of you think Izanami and Shisui Kotoamasukami are similar. Which would make sense for Tobi wanting his eye even more. If they are indeed similiar. The difference would be Kotoamatsukami doesnt blind you(immediatly at least. Its still mangekyou so eventually it will). Do you think this is true or they are completely different?
     
         

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    Re: Izanami and Kotoamatsukami

    I agree with this rep+
     
         

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    Re: Izanami and Kotoamatsukami

    I mean Kotoamatsukami changed edo itachis destiny with a stronger genjutsu which is similar to what happened now
     
         

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    Re: Izanami and Kotoamatsukami

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    I agree with this rep+
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    Re: Izanami and Kotoamatsukami

    and kotoamatsukami operates in real time and izanami operates whit the victim being under a genjutsu.
     
         

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    Re: Izanami and Kotoamatsukami

    The Question is why does Tobi have so many Sharingans?

    and yes I believe these techs are related in some way.
     
         

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    Re: Izanami and Kotoamatsukami

    nope they are completely different,

    Kotoamatsukami is a genjutsu which can control a person without them knowing.

    BUT

    Izanami is a genjutsu which traps you in a time loop... (from what i have learned reading the latest manga)
    and it costs you , your sharingan eye.
     
         

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    Re: Izanami and Kotoamatsukami

    Quote Originally Posted by bladesofchaos360 View Post
    and kotoamatsukami operates in real time and izanami operates whit the victim being under a genjutsu.
    True true. I think Izami is more pratical the wait isnt 10 yrs
     
         

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    Re: Izanami and Kotoamatsukami

    Quote Originally Posted by Frikid View Post
    nope they are completely different,

    Kotoamatsukami is a genjutsu which can control a person without them knowing.

    BUT

    Izanami is a genjutsu which traps you in a time loop... (from what i have learned reading the latest manga)
    and it costs you , your sharingan eye.
    This true im only saying the similarity that they both can change the outcome in an instant. However if itachi never stated he was going to use izanami it would be unknown. It was stated for the reader so that our questions will be answered and a whole bunch like this one for example lol will arise with its answer
     
         

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    Re: Izanami and Kotoamatsukami

    Their purpose is the same, it basically lets the caster do what he wants to happen to the victim. But, Izanami changes the destiny, like lets say Kabuto killed Naruto (for example) and then Izanami is set (or in this case, looped) so that Kabuto's destiny is to not kill Naruto, and i'm guessing that Kotoamatsukami would just be like "don't even think of killing naruto." and kabuto thinks he's making that decision under his own judgment. thats my theory of the 2 genjutsus.
     
         

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    Re: Izanami and Kotoamatsukami

    with a 10 year gap between times when you can use the kotoamatsukami it would take a good chunk of time to go blind as long as you were careful with MS moves. the 2 are very similar though, all differences have already been stated so im not goin to repeat em all. +rep sir
     
         

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    Re: Izanami and Kotoamatsukami

    Quote Originally Posted by Nooby Kyuubi View Post
    Their purpose is the same, it basically lets the caster do what he wants to happen to the victim. But, Izanami changes the destiny, like lets say Kabuto killed Naruto (for example) and then Izanami is set (or in this case, looped) so that Kabuto's destiny is to not kill Naruto, and i'm guessing that Kotoamatsukami would just be like "don't even think of killing naruto." and kabuto thinks he's making that decision under his own judgment. thats my theory of the 2 genjutsus.
    Thats a good example man. I was wondering how they would be different but this helped alot. I wonder noe if the two were used against each other which would win? To be in a neverending loop hole of izanami or think your casting izanami when kotoamatsukami makes you think you are.
     
         

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    Re: Izanami and Kotoamatsukami

    Quote Originally Posted by AnimusOra View Post
    This true im only saying the similarity that they both can change the outcome in an instant. However if itachi never stated he was going to use izanami it would be unknown. It was stated for the reader so that our questions will be answered and a whole bunch like this one for example lol will arise with its answer
    :sy:

    they are so different genjutsus, how do you think they are similar ?

    Izanami takes time to activate, so no it doesn't change the outcome in an instant
    and if you are talking about outcomes...
    many jutsus can change the direction of a battle in an instant.

    whats your point ?
     
         

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    Re: Izanami and Kotoamatsukami

    Quote Originally Posted by bruce lee was uchiha View Post
    with a 10 year gap between times when you can use the kotoamatsukami it would take a good chunk of time to go blind as long as you were careful with MS moves. the 2 are very similar though, all differences have already been stated so im not goin to repeat em all. +rep sir
    Thank you!
     
         

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    Re: Izanami and Kotoamatsukami

    shisui's eye forces you wether you like it or not, while izanami "forces" you consiously.. if u know what i mean
     
         

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    Re: Izanami and Kotoamatsukami

    Quote Originally Posted by Frikid View Post
    :sy:

    they are so different genjutsus, how do you think they are similar ?

    Izanami takes time to activate, so no it doesn't change the outcome in an instant
    and if you are talking about outcomes...
    many jutsus can change the direction of a battle in an instant.

    whats your point ?
    Sorry man i was pretty much just ramblin there. But i do agree with you. Your comment early helped me realize how much stronger izanami is
     
         

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    Re: Izanami and Kotoamatsukami

    Nope kotoasukami is mind control to the max
    Inazami is an, illusion which ones doomed to repeat whatever the caster chooses hence the "destiny in my hands" & "stuck in this loop" lines

    Completely different if he had kotoasukami this would've been over from the start
     
         

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    Re: Izanami and Kotoamatsukami

    KA can stop you being controlled by the user of Edo Tensei.

    I don't think Izanami can. It just gets you stuck in an infinite loop forever.

    Not saying this is the main difference, it's just a difference I noticed between the two.
     
         

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    Re: Izanami and Kotoamatsukami

    enough is said
     
         

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    Re: Izanami and Kotoamatsukami

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchihas with Big Guns View Post
    Nope kotoasukami is mind control to the max
    Inazami is an, illusion which ones doomed to repeat whatever the caster chooses hence the "destiny in my hands" & "stuck in this loop" lines

    Completely different if he had kotoasukami this would've been over from the start
    I agree they are different the similarity i meant was that they are ultimate once cast
     
         

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    Re: Izanami and Kotoamatsukami

    Quote Originally Posted by AnimusOra View Post
    Sorry man i was pretty much just ramblin there. But i do agree with you. Your comment early helped me realize how much stronger izanami is
    they are similar in the way that the individual can inevitably control the ending result of the victim.:flaw:
     
         

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    Re: Izanami and Kotoamatsukami

    Izanami was already performed when Itachi said he was going to use it.. The "time" that it took to use the jutsu was the period of time to put Kabuto in the loop.
     
         

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    Re: Izanami and Kotoamatsukami

    Quote Originally Posted by AnimusOra View Post
    Thats a good example man. I was wondering how they would be different but this helped alot. I wonder noe if the two were used against each other which would win? To be in a neverending loop hole of izanami or think your casting izanami when kotoamatsukami makes you think you are.
    well itachi broke out out of edo tensei control with kotoamatsukami....i think it does more than just persuade someone in a new direction. i believe kotoamatsuki is superior. someone hits you with izanami and you'd just have to cast kotoamatukami before you met you're chosen destiny to break free from izanami
     
         

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    Re: Izanami and Kotoamatsukami

    Quote Originally Posted by bruce lee was uchiha View Post
    well itachi broke out out of edo tensei control with kotoamatsukami....i think it does more than just persuade someone in a new direction. i believe kotoamatsuki is superior. someone hits you with izanami and you'd just have to cast kotoamatukami before you met you're chosen destiny to break free from izanami
    I dont know if Kotoamatukami can break inzanami. If your in a continuous loop would it just be an illusion othat you cast it or would it work? If Izanami is as absolute as Izanagi i dont know if it could be cast
     
         

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