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    Izanami can kill anyone at anytime

    I believe Izanami can kill anyone at anytime by simply creating a loop in their head and then cutting their head off. Itachi states that he used it since the first attack.




    Now if this is true he could have been used it at any moment. Now the reason he didn't is because he wanted to teach Kabuto a lesson and stop Edo.



    So this means Izanami is ridiculously overpowered and Itachi can just create any type of loop and kill anyone.
     
         
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    Re: Izanami can kill anyone at anytime

    Probably, yes... Well, at least you lose an eye in exchange...

    Izanami really is to much. (I remember last week, some said that Izanami is useless and weak, fail...)
     
         

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    Re: Izanami can kill anyone at anytime

    all i know is since this fight started its just been gettin crapier and crapier when is this dumb fight gonna end
     
         

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    Re: Izanami can kill anyone at anytime

    What part of, not good combat move, dont you understand?

    Yea, it would be a pretty good technique to use, but Itachi said its not good in combat. So...
     
         

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    Re: Izanami can kill anyone at anytime

    Quote Originally Posted by Shika88 View Post
    Probably, yes... Well, at least you lose an eye in exchange...

    Izanami really is to much. (I remember last week, some said that Izanami is useless and weak, fail...)

    Fail indeed.


    Quote Originally Posted by KAGE RYUU View Post
    all i know is since this fight started its just been gettin crapier and crapier when is this dumb fight gonna end
    It already did lol. Kabuto just has to end edo now. :D
     
         

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    Re: Izanami can kill anyone at anytime

    Quote Originally Posted by BasedNaruto View Post
    What part of, not good combat move, dont you understand?
    Genjutsu is used to create openings. Izanami is breakable true but the time it takes is a long period. Meaning it creates an opening meaning somoene gets their head chopped off.



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    someone who cant accept that izanami is one shot killl reported your thread

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    Most likely. I left for 15 minutes came back and my threead was gone. I was like tf?
     
         

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    Re: Izanami can kill anyone at anytime

    Quote Originally Posted by Dantee View Post
    I believe Izanami can kill anyone at anytime by simply creating a loop in their head and then cutting their head off. Itachi states that he used it since the first attack.




    Now if this is true he could have been used it at any moment. Now the reason he didn't is because he wanted to teach Kabuto a lesson and stop Edo.



    So this means Izanami is ridiculously overpowered and Itachi can just create any type of loop and kill anyone.


    Where the hell did my thread go?
    But what if u take the right path in the 1st place ??? .. the genjutsu is dispelled and the user losses his eye .. So its a risky thing .. But its not like godlike ..
     
         

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    Re: Izanami can kill anyone at anytime

    Quote Originally Posted by BlooDy PeOn View Post
    someone who cant accept that izanami is one shot killl reported your thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highspeed View Post
    But what if u take the right path in the 1st place ??? .. the genjutsu is dispelled and the user losses his eye .. So its a risky thing .. But its not like godlike ..
    It changes destiny. It's not about right or wrong. If you get caught you immediately have to figure out whats going on before you get your head cut off. Which is impossible.
     
         

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    Re: Izanami can kill anyone at anytime

    I agree, but that's a huge cost though. Might as well just Tsukuyomi instead.
     
         

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    Re: Izanami can kill anyone at anytime

    Quote Originally Posted by PaperHERO View Post
    I agree, but that's a huge cost though.
    Indeed it is. It explains why Itachi never used it. He wanted to keep both eyes just for Sasuke.
     
         

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    Re: Izanami can kill anyone at anytime

    Quote Originally Posted by Highspeed View Post
    But what if u take the right path in the 1st place ??? .. the genjutsu is dispelled and the user losses his eye .. So its a risky thing .. But its not like godlike ..
    Lmao true but someone like Kabuto who is obsessed with power would never be able to break out instantly because he has to be true to himself so even if he happened to know how to break it,it wouldn't work.
     
         

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    Re: Izanami can kill anyone at anytime

    finally someone who thinks the same way i do ! if i could +rep you 3 times i would've +rep
     
         

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    Re: Izanami can kill anyone at anytime

    Quote Originally Posted by Dantee View Post
    It changes destiny. It's not about right or wrong. If you get caught you immediately have to figure out whats going on before you get your head cut off. Which is impossible.
    It does not change destiny .. it just messes up ur senses by inserting random images in ur head that repeat if u think u can escape them ..Btw Izanagi changes the destiny ...
     
         

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    Re: Izanami can kill anyone at anytime

    Quote Originally Posted by White Zetsu View Post
    Lmao true but someone like Kabuto who is obsessed with power would never be able to break out instantly because he has to be true to himself so even if he happened to know how to break it,it wouldn't work.
    Maybe.. but i think Kabuto is gonna suprise us in the next chapter .. :D
     
         

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    Re: Izanami can kill anyone at anytime

    Quote Originally Posted by Highspeed View Post
    It does not change destiny .. it just messes up ur senses by inserting random images in ur head that repeat if u think u can escape them ..Btw Izanagi changes the destiny ...
    What I meant was it has to do with destiny not right or wrong.


     
         

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    Re: Izanami can kill anyone at anytime

    So according to itachi, he used izanagi at that 1 moment, so it really does not need pre prep time?

    After that events were basically recorded , He talked with kabuto a bit trying to change him, then put him in the loop? iS That what happened?
     
         

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    Re: Izanami can kill anyone at anytime

    Quote Originally Posted by Owarij View Post
    So according to itachi, he used izanagi at that 1 moment, so it really does not need pre prep time?

    After that events were basically recorded , He talked with kabuto a bit trying to change him, then put him in the loop? iS That what happened?
    That is the conclusion I came up with. He said it himself he is trying to help Kabuto.



    Quote Originally Posted by USSJ Future Trunks View Post
    in that case any genjutsu at all is oneshot kill. since one must first realise its genjutsu and if one is fast enough, they can cut the opponents head off super fast before they can cancel it.
    sasuke for example is capable of doing what only koto amatsukami is capable of, and thats actually tricking his opponent into thinking a genjutsu was all real. deidara and danzo both fell to this one. itachi however makes it extremely obvious when he puts someone in genjutsu that it is in fact not real.
    Not at all. Every other strong genjutsu besides Izanami needs eye contact. Weaker genjutsu's can be broken or noticed right away. Izanami is a strong genjutsu that effects all of the senses so it's impossible to break immediately.

     
         
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    Re: Izanami can kill anyone at anytime

    Quote Originally Posted by USSJ Future Trunks View Post
    in that case any genjutsu at all is oneshot kill. since one must first realise its genjutsu and if one is fast enough, they can cut the opponents head off super fast before they can cancel it.
    sasuke for example is capable of doing what only koto amatsukami is capable of, and thats actually tricking his opponent into thinking a genjutsu was all real. deidara and danzo both fell to this one. itachi however makes it extremely obvious when he puts someone in genjutsu that it is in fact not real.

    What utter bs is that? Itachi can easily make genjutsu look real... he's done it to deidara, naruto AND sasuke already..

    the other genjutsu's he's shown weren't meant to for that purpose..

    Paralysis genjutsu on orochimaru, why would he want to do that?
    Tsukyomi on kakashi= it's a torture genjuitsu , why would he want to do that?
     
         

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    Re: Izanami can kill anyone at anytime

    Quote Originally Posted by Owarij View Post

    What utter bs is that? Itachi can easily make genjutsu look real... he's done it to deidara, naruto AND sasuke already..

    the other genjutsu's he's shown weren't meant to for that purpose..

    Paralysis genjutsu on orochimaru, why would he want to do that?
    Tsukyomi on kakashi= it's a torture genjuitsu , why would he want to do that?
    This to ^. Itachi is a genjutsu master.
     
         

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    Re: Izanami can kill anyone at anytime

    Quote Originally Posted by Owarij View Post
    So according to itachi, he used izanagi at that 1 moment, so it really does not need pre prep time?

    After that events were basically recorded , He talked with kabuto a bit trying to change him, then put him in the loop? iS That what happened?
    then why would sasuke still ask "when did he activate izanami"? if kabuto was "affected" the moment itachi used the technique then kabuto should've fall from the top after he stabbed itachi and won't end standing there.

    I still think the jutsu was "in effect" from this moment:


    It would make much sense this way- itachi began recording the event when kabuto stabbed him, then from the page I link here, that's the time itachi "showed" the "recorded event" to kabuto. that would explain why kabuto was left standing there.
     
         

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    Re: Izanami can kill anyone at anytime

    Quote Originally Posted by khaydz5 View Post
    then why would sasuke still ask "when did he activate izanami"? if kabuto was "affected" the moment itachi used the technique then kabuto should've fall from the top after he stabbed itachi and won't end standing there.

    I still think the jutsu was "in effect" from this moment:


    It would make much sense this way- itachi began recording the event when kabuto stabbed him, then from the page I link here, that's the time itachi "showed" the "recorded event" to kabuto. that would explain why kabuto was left standing there.

    Yes dude, That's when he put him in the genjutsu.. When he used izanmi and started recording was back when he got stabbed etc... Though he could have "put it in effect" A while back, he was talking to kabuto and trying to help him
     
         

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    Re: Izanami can kill anyone at anytime

    Quote Originally Posted by Owarij View Post

    Yes dude, That's when he put him in the genjutsu.. When he used izanmi and started recording was back when he got stabbed etc... Though he could have "put it in effect" A while back, he was talking to kabuto and trying to help him
    makes sense. so basically izanami doesn't have that prep time, he could have used it anytime from the moment kabuto stabbed him.
     
         

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    makes sense. so basically izanami doesn't have that prep time, he could have used it anytime from the moment kabuto stabbed him.


    It depends on how long he wants to record, basically the moment he's done recording he can cast it
     
         

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    Re: Izanami can kill anyone at anytime

    Quote Originally Posted by Owarij View Post

    Yes dude, That's when he put him in the genjutsu.. When he used izanmi and started recording was back when he got stabbed etc... Though he could have "put it in effect" A while back, he was talking to kabuto and trying to help him
    Definately, Itachi already had this fight in the bag. In fact he didn't really need sasuke to be there, he couldve recorded the fight from the first strike. But since Itachi tried to reason with him, this was probably why it took so long.

    So instead of trying to reason with him, itachi used kabutos ignorance against him. I think the whole itachi still trying to reason with him during the loop might be feeding to kabutos ego (so this would mean he'll never escape, since he just denies everything itachi says).
     
         

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    Re: Izanami can kill anyone at anytime

    Quote Originally Posted by LEAU92 View Post
    Definately, Itachi already had this fight in the bag. In fact he didn't really need sasuke to be there, he couldve recorded the fight from the first strike. But since Itachi tried to reason with him, this was probably why it took so long.

    So instead of trying to reason with him, itachi used kabutos ignorance against him. I think the whole itachi still trying to reason with him during the loop might be feeding to kabutos ego (so this would mean he'll never escape, since he just denies everything itachi says).
    Also he was never trying to kill Kabuto that's the thing. He wanted to use it so Kabuto can learn his lesson and cancel edo tensei on his own. 2 bricks with 1 stone.
     
         

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