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    Re: Zabuza vs Shikamaru (part 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by Exaar View Post
    Being Smater Doesn't mean he Wins.

    Shikamaru Lacks Any offensive Jutsu's to beat Zabuza in the Mist.

    he is Smart yes, But he needs more than Smarts to beat Zabuza.

    Fact:
    He can't Deal with Or Counter Hiden Mist.
    He has No way to Counter Silent Killing.
    He Lacks Both close Combat Skills/Experience needed to Counter Zabuza's Attack while Inside the Mist.
    He Can't Locate Zabuza, let alone attack him
    If he Can't see Nor hear Zabuza his Smarts count for Nothing.

    Your Only Argument is "He is Smart"
    ur forgetting one thing though... his smarts allow him to know what's going on and how to avoid it. as soon as the mist rolls in, Shikamaru will jump outside the range of the mist cuz he's smart and he'd know it's part of the enemies jutsu. also, Hidan would F'kn MURDER zabuza, but Hikan was NO match for Shikamaru... so i don't know for sure, but i think Shikamaru would win... Shika beat Hidan, but Hidan would beat Zabuza... what do u think? u think Hidan would win or Zabuza would win? either way, i think Shikamaru would beat both...
     
         

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    Re: Zabuza vs Shikamaru (part 2)

    Wtf? You people severely overestimate Shikamaru

    Zabuza was outspeeding Kakashi akin to all the other scans backing Zabuza in this thread so far. Zabuza activates the mist and Shikamaru seriously can't do shit, he gets decapitated extremely early on in this fight and Zabuza wins with very low difficulty.
     
         

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    Re: Zabuza vs Shikamaru (part 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by NaruGoku View Post
    ur forgetting one thing though... his smarts allow him to know what's going on and how to avoid it. as soon as the mist rolls in, Shikamaru will jump outside the range of the mist cuz he's smart and he'd know it's part of the enemies jutsu. also, Hidan would F'kn MURDER zabuza, but Hikan was NO match for Shikamaru... so i don't know for sure, but i think Shikamaru would win... Shika beat Hidan, but Hidan would beat Zabuza... what do u think? u think Hidan would win or Zabuza would win? either way, i think Shikamaru would beat both...
    He Doesn't no Whats Going on, No matter how Smart he is, If he Can't see Nor Hear Someone he Doesn't know Anything thats going on.

    As i Said Befor, He Dones't Know the Mist's Range, Nor Can he See where it Begins nor Ends, it's to Thick, Even kakashi couldn't escape it.

    Hidan would Beat Zabuza Yes, But Shikamaru had Pre-Planend for his Fight with hidan, He has a Trap set up long befor the Fight started.
    Without Any Prep or Info on hidan, Hidan would Rape shikamaru.

    Shika > Hidan, Hidan > Zabuza, Doesn't Mean shika > Zabuza, thats just bad logic.
    As i keep Saying Shikamaru cannot counter Hiden Mist + Silent Killing, it doesn't matter how smart he is, He lacks the combat skills needed.
     
         
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    Re: Zabuza vs Shikamaru (part 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by NaruGoku View Post
    ur forgetting one thing though... his smarts allow him to know what's going on and how to avoid it. as soon as the mist rolls in, Shikamaru will jump outside the range of the mist cuz he's smart and he'd know it's part of the enemies jutsu. also, Hidan would F'kn MURDER zabuza, but Hikan was NO match for Shikamaru... so i don't know for sure, but i think Shikamaru would win... Shika beat Hidan, but Hidan would beat Zabuza... what do u think? u think Hidan would win or Zabuza would win? either way, i think Shikamaru would beat both...
    Actually when i think about it, Zabuza would beat Hidan
     
         

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    Re: Zabuza vs Shikamaru (part 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by Exaar View Post
    He Doesn't no Whats Going on, Now matter how Smart he is, If he Can't see Nor Hear Someone he Doesn't know Anything thats going on.

    As i Said Befor, He Dones't Know the Mist's Range, Nor Can he See where it Begins nor Ends, it's to Thick, Even kakashi couldn't escape it.

    Hidan would Beat Zabuza Yes, But Shikamaru had Pre-Planend for his Fight with hidan, He has a Trap set up long befor the Fight started.
    Without Any Prep or Info on hidan, Hidan would Rape shikamaru.

    Shika > Hidan, Hidan > Zabuza, Doesn't Mean shika > Zabuza, thats just bad logic.
    As i keep Saying Shikamaru cannot counter Hiden Mist + Silent Killing, it doesn't matter how smart he is, He lacks the combat skills needed.
    , u clealy know what the "transitive property of equality" is! But, I'm saying part 2 Shika--which is the 16 yr old Shikamaru--could beat Zabuza. Hidden mist or whatever wouldn't be very effective... Shikamru would figure out the jutsu very quickly and adapt to it. he'd see mist, and would jump away from it. Shikamaru is way too smart to fall for a mist/blind-you tech... especially when he's older...
     
         

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    Re: Zabuza vs Shikamaru (part 2)

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    ur forgetting one thing though... his smarts allow him to know what's going on and how to avoid it. as soon as the mist rolls in, Shikamaru will jump outside the range of the mist cuz he's smart and he'd know it's part of the enemies jutsu. also, Hidan would F'kn MURDER zabuza, but Hikan was NO match for Shikamaru... so i don't know for sure, but i think Shikamaru would win... Shika beat Hidan, but Hidan would beat Zabuza... what do u think? u think Hidan would win or Zabuza would win? either way, i think Shikamaru would beat both...
    Firstly, Hidan is able to Solo current team asuma (Asuma+Shikamaru+2 chunin/jounin dont know really but not important). + Killed Asuma. If Hidan's target is Shikamaru there is no need to tell why. When he kills Asuma, Shikamaru learn his secret jutsu, and in NarutoVerse intel is playing really important role. And he makes his preparation for this, he knows if his abilities and not try to kill him, making traps. But in this Vs Threads there is no preparation is allowed and you can not do it in middle of fight, if you are looking at this way Konan is should be in top10 or top5 due to bilions of paper bombs.... You are always talking about Shikamaru is too smart for them but you are not smart. You are making non-sense at all. You are saying Shikamaru will jump outside the range of the mist. Why didn't Kakashi do it? He is an idiot? Basicly he's better tactician than Shikamaru due to experience not raw intelligent. But you can say it easyly jump outside! Thanks Captain Obvious. DUH** :sy:
     
         
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    Re: Zabuza vs Shikamaru (part 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by NaruGoku View Post
    , u clealy know what the "transitive property of equality" is! But, I'm saying part 2 Shika--which is the 16 yr old Shikamaru--could beat Zabuza. Hidden mist or whatever wouldn't be very effective... Shikamru would figure out the jutsu very quickly and adapt to it. he'd see mist, and would jump away from it. Shikamaru is way too smart to fall for a mist/blind-you tech... especially when he's older...
    *Facepalm*
    Exaar won this argument sir
     
         

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    Re: Zabuza vs Shikamaru (part 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by NaruGoku View Post
    , u clealy know what the "transitive property of equality" is! But, I'm saying part 2 Shika--which is the 16 yr old Shikamaru--could beat Zabuza. Hidden mist or whatever wouldn't be very effective... Shikamru would figure out the jutsu very quickly and adapt to it. he'd see mist, and would jump away from it. Shikamaru is way too smart to fall for a mist/blind-you tech... especially when he's older...
    No he Couldn't.
    I've Explained all the Reasons Why, Yet you just Ignore them.

    Shikamaru would Die befor he can Even React to the Jutsu, Simple as that.

    Since you have No Logical Answer to any of the Points i've Raised and Since i've countered your Pitiful Arugments on shikmaru "Jumping out of the Mists Range".

    I think i'm done here, No point arguing with Someone who refuses to see the Facts or Logic.
     
         

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    Re: Zabuza vs Shikamaru (part 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by NaruGoku View Post
    , u clealy know what the "transitive property of equality" is! But, I'm saying part 2 Shika--which is the 16 yr old Shikamaru--could beat Zabuza. Hidden mist or whatever wouldn't be very effective... Shikamru would figure out the jutsu very quickly and adapt to it. he'd see mist, and would jump away from it. Shikamaru is way too smart to fall for a mist/blind-you tech... especially when he's older...
    Kakashi adapted to it and nearly died only reason he lived because of his COMBAT skills shikamaru is smart and all but winning the fight thats goin to require close combat
     
         

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    Re: Zabuza vs Shikamaru (part 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by Exaar View Post
    No he Couldn't.
    I've Explained all the Reasons Why, Yet you just Ignore them.

    Shikamaru would Die befor he can Even React to the Jutsu, Simple as that.

    Since you have No Logical Answer to any of the Points i've Raised and Since i've countered your Pitiful Arugments on shikmaru "Jumping out of the Mists Range".

    I think i'm done here, No point arguing with Someone who refuses to see the Facts or Logic.

    It's what he's doing... you can explain things to him , and explain that shikimaru lacks offensive jutsu...

    and won't be able to escape the mist , or fight zabuza with a 2.5 in speed and a 2 in taijutsu.. But he doesn't listen.. He's caught up in his own fanboy reality...
     
         

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    Re: Zabuza vs Shikamaru (part 2)

    , i'm no Shikamaru fanboy, and i will concede that you all make good points. But, there was someone recently who explained why the 1st and 2nd Hokage weren't losers when Orochimaru summoned them, and tons of people agreed. his reasoning was that there was a different power scaling in the first part of Naruto, and i believe this case is something similar... Shikamaru was definitely too smart for Hidan cuz Hidan was an idiot, but if you guys use the assumption that Shikamaru knew nothing for this fight then yeah, Hidan would probabaly win. that's my fault for not being clear on the parameters of the fight. as for Kakashi, that's where my first half vs second half comparison comes in. in part one we were barely meeting Kakashi, in part 2 however, the Mist Jutsu would be nothing for Kakashi. the simplest way to avoid it is to jump away from it, and i think Shikamaru would figure that out... but i think u all bring up valid points and i don't dismiss any of it
     
         

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    Re: Zabuza vs Shikamaru (part 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by NaruGoku View Post
    , i'm no Shikamaru fanboy, and i will concede that you all make good points. But, there was someone recently who explained why the 1st and 2nd Hokage weren't losers when Orochimaru summoned them, and tons of people agreed. his reasoning was that there was a different power scaling in the first part of Naruto, and i believe this case is something similar... Shikamaru was definitely too smart for Hidan cuz Hidan was an idiot, but if you guys use the assumption that Shikamaru knew nothing for this fight then yeah, Hidan would probabaly win. that's my fault for not being clear on the parameters of the fight. as for Kakashi, that's where my first half vs second half comparison comes in. in part one we were barely meeting Kakashi, in part 2 however, the Mist Jutsu would be nothing for Kakashi. the simplest way to avoid it is to jump away from it, and i think Shikamaru would figure that out... but i think u all bring up valid points and i don't dismiss any of it
    you've gotta be kidding me? u ignored the valid point that Shikamaru CANT jump away from it or he will get cut in half because of the sound he would give off
     
         

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