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    kubo's about to troll

    looks like kubo's about to overlook some facts that he made up himself.
    at the beginning of the series, it was said that a zanpakutou is part of a shinigami's soul
    now ouetsu, is telling ichigo to say bye-bye to zangetsu...
    it doesn't make sense, its more like saying he's splitting ichigo's soul apart, or saying that it is ouetsu that determines what zanpakutou every shinigami in soul society should have.
     
         

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    Re: kubo's about to troll

    Yep, that's pretty much it
     
         

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    Re: kubo's about to troll

    Well he did tell Ichigo to find his true soul.
     
         

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    Re: kubo's about to troll

    Well i hope that´s not the case, maybe Ichigo´s soul is different from the rest...i mean now we know his mother´s story and i would say everything about him is unique.
     
         

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    Re: kubo's about to troll

    Maybe he will get a zanpaktou that combines his hollow, shinigami, and quincy powers this time around, not sesperate from each other. This is more like a transformation rather than replacement really.
     
         

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    Re: kubo's about to troll

    Well, ichigo is special, he awakened quicy blood and hollow power within him so his soul should be different too.
    I miss Zangetsu
     
         

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    Re: kubo's about to troll

    I've given some thought to this, and the only defense I can make in Kubo's case is the following:

    -From what I understand, all soul reapers get a zanpakuto in the (academy or when they officially become shinigami? regardless..), and from there it is up to them to unlock their zanpakuto's powers. The zanpakuto's powers are generated from the soul of the wielder. However, in Ichigo's case, even though his zanpakuto was generated from within Ichigo's soul, it was still brought out with the help of Rukia. Also, he had Shinigami genes in him. What does that mean? Well, we all know Ichigo's zanpakuto is named Zangetsu, but remember his father's (Isshin's) zanpakuto name? Engutsu. So, I think that Ichigo's initial zanpakuto, Zangetsu, had a mixture of souls that includes Rukia, Isshin, and Ichigo himself. But now he'll get a zanpakuto that will be filled with his soul alone.

    Overall, this was the best solution I could think of that made sense to me, but you might be right, and Kubo might just be trolling haha
     
         

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    Re: kubo's about to troll

    Kubo always trolls so i put my chances on this
     
         

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    Re: kubo's about to troll

    as i understood, Zangetsu is more or less a copy or variant of Engetsu... didnt Oetsu say something about Ichigo finding his real soul? (or something like that)
     
         

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    Re: kubo's about to troll

    Quote Originally Posted by lesley View Post
    looks like kubo's about to overlook some facts that he made up himself.
    at the beginning of the series, it was said that a zanpakutou is part of a shinigami's soul
    now ouetsu, is telling ichigo to say bye-bye to zangetsu...
    it doesn't make sense, its more like saying he's splitting ichigo's soul apart, or saying that it is ouetsu that determines what zanpakutou every shinigami in soul society should have.
    I dunno....I guess the Zero Squad do things differently than the Soul Society.

    I predict that Ichigo and Zangetsu/Hollow Ichigo will merge permanently.
     
         

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    Re: kubo's about to troll

    I actually think that Zangetsu's "Human Form" is what the test arancar that masaki fought initially looked like as a human. I theorize that either during Ichigo's conception or his mothers death, the hollow power that was inside masaki was transferred into ichigo and became "Zangetsu". After all, hollow ichigo and Zangetsu ARE one in the same.
    In addition, Zangetsu claims that he "hates the rain". And what was the name of the recent flash back sub arc?

    All in all, I don't think Zangetsu was ever really Ichigo's "true" Zanpakuto.
     
         

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    Re: kubo's about to troll

    Yeah, I really hope when he says saying goodbye to Zangetsu he means the shape of the blade and nothing else as I don't think we've seen enough of Zangetsu I mean we haven't really seen Ichigo and Zangetsu bond or anything like that also it would totally ruin the whole Engetsu and Zangetsu thing going on also Zangetsu translated is the fitting name for Ichigo's Zanpaktou.

    I just really hope Kubo doesn't go with some weird lightsaber or bow crap as I'd prefer Ichigo to just be able to use Blut when it comes to Quincy powers.
     
         

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    Re: kubo's about to troll

    Kubo probably knows that Getsuga Tensho defeating multiple enemies gets old, so he is probably going to give Ichigo a Zanpakuto with multiple abilities or something, after he broke his sword he was pretty much out of ideas, im sure he regrets it.
     
         

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    Re: kubo's about to troll

    Kubo does troll pretty often I agree. I hope Ichigo's Zanpakuto "evolves" or "transforms" because if not, it contradicts this whole Shinigami only gets one thing. Even if Ichigo is everything now, he still follows the shinigami fundamentals with his Zanpakuto.
     
         

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    Re: kubo's about to troll

    Kubo is always trolling. I have no faith in this at all but I hope I'm wrong.
     
         

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    Re: kubo's about to troll

    It's my understanding that Zangetsu is not a "real" Zanpukuto; not a conventional one, anyway. I'm pretty sure Zangetsu is some Quincy ability created using information Ichigo absorbed from Isshin.
     
         

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    Re: kubo's about to troll

    agreed but Ichigo's soul was altered before the start of the series it has to be why
     
         

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    Re: kubo's about to troll

    Well it makes sense know.
     
         

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    Re: kubo's about to troll

    Quote Originally Posted by lesley View Post
    looks like kubo's about to overlook some facts that he made up himself.
    at the beginning of the series, it was said that a zanpakutou is part of a shinigami's soul
    now ouetsu, is telling ichigo to say bye-bye to zangetsu...
    it doesn't make sense, its more like saying he's splitting ichigo's soul apart, or saying that it is ouetsu that determines what zanpakutou every shinigami in soul society should have.
    He's not going to literally say bye bye to zangetsu but rather to that zangetsu. Zangetsi is still gonna be his zanpakuto's name but it'll have a different form, its true form. The one we know was just ichigo's shinigami powers pretending to be his shinigami powers
     
         

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    Re: kubo's about to troll

    ????huh....from what i read in this manga series ....a zanpaktou is a separate entity and the purpose of the shinigami is to draw out their power so that they can use sooo the more they train their zanpakutou the more their souls are intertwined and the zanpaktou takes shape of the shinigami's soul but they are still separate entities. for example a shinigami can't see their zanpakutou until they reached a certain level (renji could not see his until after he fought ichigo) once you see your zanpaktou thats when bankai training starts.

    i've said for a couple months already that the ichigo's zanpaktou is his hollow and shinigami powers combined....i was wrong but not about the hollow part but one thing that really confused me was the asachi i wondered what is the point of them but it backs up what i say about zanpaktou how they are a different entity. they have their own spirit/lifeforce
     
         

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