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    Ulquiora strongest espada?

    I feel as though ulquiora was the strongest espada out of them all. i feel this way beacause he had a state 2 form which none of the other espadas had achieved.

    tell me your opinions on this matter and why you feel that way.
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    I would love to say he is but no , even if he is in his resurrection 2 he wouldnt be able to touch Barragan|
    Halibel idk she is one badass
    Stark..maybe
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kage Phoenix View Post
    I would love to say he is but no , even if he is in his resurrection 2 he wouldnt be able to touch Barragan|
    Halibel idk she is one badass
    Stark..maybe
    I see what you mean but I think he could beat number 2 (barrigan). one reason being if barrigan touched him and he began to rot he could cut off his arm and hit him with it causing barrigan to touch his absolute power and begin to decay and die.
    before you start saying he wouldnt just willingly sacrifice his arm i think that he would because of his super fast regeneration abilities. he even said that his true and strongest abilities lie in his power to regenerate his limbs so fast like when he was fighting ichigo for the second time.
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    yes he is the only one who could use a second transformation...
    he is the strongest physically but number 2 would win if the were ever in a fight
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    If Ulquiora was the strongest espada he'd have a number 1 on him instead of 4
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by Better View Post
    If Ulquiora was the strongest espada he'd have a number 1 on him instead of 4
    Not true because when he revealed state 2 he said no one knew of this form not even aizen they were all kept in the dark. So his true power was never known.
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Maybe.. He thought that he would have been the strongest.. But there is no definite way of knowing.. Is there...
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by sidd View Post
    Maybe.. He thought that he would have been the strongest.. But there is no definite way of knowing.. Is there...
    You make valid point........

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dunmire66 View Post
    You make valid point........

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    Thanks.. :D
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Stark will kill him in one shot n barringan aswell..n espada #0 is the strongest.
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    No. Ulquiorra was not the strongest Espada. Ya he had his Segunda Etapa big deal. It doesn't change the fact that the Captains are on a whole other standard than Ichigo. Had Ulquiorra gone up against Kyoraku he would have lost with mid difficulty on Kyoraku's part.

    My point? Stark was the strongest Espada. Not Ulquiorra. Ulquiorra deserves his 4th position. 3rd at best.



    What is that I hear? You want proof? Here:
    http://www.mangapanda.com/94-725-20/...apter-271.html

    Ulquiorra knows he's the only one with the Segunda Etapa and he still states there are 3 more Espada who are stronger than he is.
     
         
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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by NLee View Post
    No. Ulquiorra was not the strongest Espada. Ya he had his Segunda Etapa big deal. It doesn't change the fact that the Captains are on a whole other standard than Ichigo. Had Ulquiorra gone up against Kyoraku he would have lost with mid difficulty on Kyoraku's part.

    My point? Stark was the strongest Espada. Not Ulquiorra. Ulquiorra deserves his 4th position. 3rd at best.



    What is that I hear? You want proof? Here:
    http://www.mangapanda.com/94-725-20/...apter-271.html

    Ulquiorra knows he's the only one with the Segunda Etapa and he still states there are 3 more Espada who are stronger than he is.
    The espada ranking system is messed up anyways, Yammy shouldn't be espada 0. Ulquiorra has high speed regeneration and Kubo had Hollow Ichigo fight him because he was the only one in hueco Mundo at that time who could beat him because of his sheer destructive force.
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by dbzfreak View Post
    The espada ranking system is messed up anyways, Yammy shouldn't be espada 0. Ulquiorra has high speed regeneration and Kubo had Hollow Ichigo fight him because he was the only one in hueco Mundo at that time who could beat him because of his sheer destructive force.
    That doesn't change the fact that Ulquiorra still lost to Ichigo. Like I said, had Ulquiorra fought someone like Kyoraku instead he would have lost with medium difficult on Kyoraku's part. Ulquiorra was not the strongest Espada
     
         
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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by NLee View Post
    That doesn't change the fact that Ulquiorra still lost to Ichigo. Like I said, had Ulquiorra fought someone like Kyoraku instead he would have lost with medium difficult on Kyoraku's part. Ulquiorra was not the strongest Espada
    Well first of all we are talking about Espada not Soul Reapers, not sure why you mentioned Kyoraku because last time I checked he wasn't espada? Regeneration is one of Ulquiorras highest assets, even though he isn;t the strongest Espada, he definetly deserves some respect. He would beat Harribel pretty easily, Barragan not so sure he is an OP espada, and maybe Starrk. Regeneration > rapid fire ceros.
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by dbzfreak View Post
    Well first of all we are talking about Espada not Soul Reapers, not sure why you mentioned Kyoraku because last time I checked he wasn't espada? Regeneration is one of Ulquiorras highest assets, even though he isn;t the strongest Espada, he definetly deserves some respect. He would beat Harribel pretty easily, Barragan not so sure he is an OP espada, and maybe Starrk. Regeneration > rapid fire ceros.
    Uhh...why am I bringing Kyoraku into this? Because he defeated the Primera Espada... Hence he would trample over Ulquiorra. The correlation is obvious.

    Ulquiorra himself said to Ichigo that there were still three Espada stronger than himself. If this isn't proof that he was 4th at best then I don't know what is.
     
         
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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by dbzfreak View Post
    Well first of all we are talking about Espada not Soul Reapers, not sure why you mentioned Kyoraku because last time I checked he wasn't espada? Regeneration is one of Ulquiorras highest assets, even though he isn;t the strongest Espada, he definetly deserves some respect. He would beat Harribel pretty easily, Barragan not so sure he is an OP espada, and maybe Starrk. Regeneration > rapid fire ceros.
    whoa whoa back up there sparky..You know that tehre is a reason why he was 4th and they were above.give reasons as o why u think will win..regenration,..??..big deal..it doesnt give u the ammo to win a battle..
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by NLee View Post
    No. Ulquiorra was not the strongest Espada. Ya he had his Segunda Etapa big deal. It doesn't change the fact that the Captains are on a whole other standard than Ichigo. Had Ulquiorra gone up against Kyoraku he would have lost with mid difficulty on Kyoraku's part.

    My point? Stark was the strongest Espada. Not Ulquiorra. Ulquiorra deserves his 4th position. 3rd at best.



    What is that I hear? You want proof? Here:
    http://www.mangapanda.com/94-725-20/...apter-271.html

    Ulquiorra knows he's the only one with the Segunda Etapa and he still states there are 3 more Espada who are stronger than he is.
    Reading that manga extract looks more of a way to demorale the enemy not an actual valid statement. It was probably "his line" or whatever whenever he was challenged by someone.
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulum1337 View Post
    Reading that manga extract looks more of a way to demorale the enemy not an actual valid statement. It was probably "his line" or whatever whenever he was challenged by someone.
    I know right all he does is try to discourage ichigo and he lied too since with yammy released that would make 4 stronger than him in first release and ppl think starks the strongest but as far as the ranks go yammy is really #1 since 0>1>2>3>4
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by o0eric0o View Post
    I know right all he does is try to discourage ichigo and he lied too since with yammy released that would make 4 stronger than him in first release and ppl think starks the strongest but as far as the ranks go yammy is really #1 since 0>1>2>3>4
    Maybe he thinks he is stronger then Halibel, or Yammy is too stupid tobe considered stronger.
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eternity000 View Post
    Maybe he thinks he is stronger then Halibel, or Yammy is too stupid tobe considered stronger.
    Maybe he knows he can beat yammy in first release even though yammy is stronger probly why he treats him the way he does, Dunno why ppl can find it sohard for ulquiora to become the strongest after seing the huge difrence in power when the weakest releases it wouldnt be that much of a diffrence for ulquiora hes allrdy close to the top
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by nlee View Post
    no. Ulquiorra was not the strongest espada. Ya he had his segunda etapa big deal. It doesn't change the fact that the captains are on a whole other standard than ichigo. Had ulquiorra gone up against kyoraku he would have lost with mid difficulty on kyoraku's part.

    My point? Stark was the strongest espada. Not ulquiorra. Ulquiorra deserves his 4th position. 3rd at best.



    What is that i hear? You want proof? Here:


    Ulquiorra knows he's the only one with the segunda etapa and he still states there are 3 more espada who are stronger than he is.

    are you freaking kidding me?

    Seriously, I just don't know where to start from to explain you how wrong you are.

    First of all, Ichigo unmasked is in a mid captain level, like Byakuya, Kenpachi, Hitsugaya, Ukitake, Shunsui and a few more, and yes, Ukitake and Shunsui are a mid level captains, these 2 clowns never showed us anything impressive, i don't care that it's been said that both of them are the most powerful shinigamis in Soul Society after Yamamoto which is pure nonsense, exactly like Uluqiorra said that there are 3 Espadas stronger than him, which is again bullsh!t, only the abilities that the characters show us tells us exactly what they are capable of.

    Let me ask you something, Yammy claims to be the strogest of the Espada, does it mean it is acutally true?


    -Harribel was beaten by Hitsugaya, who is a mid level captain who would have lose to masked Ichigo. Ulquiorra's unreleased powers were equal to a masked Ichigo.
    Also we didn't see anything threatening from her except the Cascada which is far far behind Ulquiorra's Lanza del Relámpago, not mentioning his monstrous speed and high speed regeneration.

    -Baraggan was beaten by a simple Kido, ENOUGH SAID.
    What also a real opponent other than Sui Fon would rip his head off before he could touch him.

    -Stark was one tough guy but at the end of the day all he was doing was shooting Ceros.

    -Yammy shouldn't be an Espada at all.


    And again, not everything the characters tell us is true, Ulquiorra said that because he wanted Ichigo to doubt himself, if you actually knew what you are talking about, you'd knew that Ulquiorra tends to play with his target's mind.
     
         
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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by ShayD3 View Post
    are you freaking kidding me?

    Seriously, I just don't know where to start from to explain you how wrong you are.

    First of all, Ichigo unmasked is in a mid captain level, like Byakuya, Kenpachi, Hitsugaya, Ukitake, Shunsui and a few more, and yes, Ukitake and Shunsui are a mid level captains, these 2 clowns never showed us anything impressive, i don't care that it's been said that both of them are the most powerful shinigamis in Soul Society after Yamamoto which is pure nonsense, exactly like Uluqiorra said that there are 3 Espadas stronger than him, which is again bullsh!t, only the abilities that the characters show us tells us exactly what they are capable of.

    Let me ask you something, Yammy claims to be the strogest of the Espada, does it mean it is acutally true?


    -Harribel was beaten by Hitsugaya, who is a mid level captain who would have lose to masked Ichigo. Ulquiorra's unreleased powers were equal to a masked Ichigo.
    Also we didn't see anything threatening from her except the Cascada which is far far behind Ulquiorra's Lanza del Relámpago, not mentioning his monstrous speed and high speed regeneration.

    -Baraggan was beaten by a simple Kido, ENOUGH SAID.
    What also a real opponent other than Sui Fon would rip his head off before he could touch him.

    -Stark was one tough guy but at the end of the day all he was doing was shooting Ceros.

    -Yammy shouldn't be an Espada at all.


    And again, not everything the characters tell us is true, Ulquiorra said that because he wanted Ichigo to doubt himself, if you actually knew what you are talking about, you'd knew that Ulquiorra tends to play with his target's mind.
    Very nicely put. I agree.
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by ShayD3 View Post
    are you freaking kidding me?

    Seriously, I just don't know where to start from to explain you how wrong you are.

    First of all, Ichigo unmasked is in a mid captain level, like Byakuya, Kenpachi, Hitsugaya, Ukitake, Shunsui and a few more, and yes, Ukitake and Shunsui are a mid level captains, these 2 clowns never showed us anything impressive, i don't care that it's been said that both of them are the most powerful shinigamis in Soul Society after Yamamoto which is pure nonsense, exactly like Uluqiorra said that there are 3 Espadas stronger than him, which is again bullsh!t, only the abilities that the characters show us tells us exactly what they are capable of.

    Let me ask you something, Yammy claims to be the strogest of the Espada, does it mean it is acutally true?


    -Harribel was beaten by Hitsugaya, who is a mid level captain who would have lose to masked Ichigo. Ulquiorra's unreleased powers were equal to a masked Ichigo.
    Also we didn't see anything threatening from her except the Cascada which is far far behind Ulquiorra's Lanza del Relámpago, not mentioning his monstrous speed and high speed regeneration.

    -Baraggan was beaten by a simple Kido, ENOUGH SAID.
    What also a real opponent other than Sui Fon would rip his head off before he could touch him.

    -Stark was one tough guy but at the end of the day all he was doing was shooting Ceros.

    -Yammy shouldn't be an Espada at all.


    And again, not everything the characters tell us is true, Ulquiorra said that because he wanted Ichigo to doubt himself, if you actually knew what you are talking about, you'd knew that Ulquiorra tends to play with his target's mind.
    are you freaking kidding me..dont give us this BS...ichigo without his mask is a low level cap=pt at best and lol..calling shuunsui mid level..><...check your head..go to some doctor..then argue...
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rand al'Thor View Post
    are you freaking kidding me..dont give us this BS...ichigo without his mask is a low level cap=pt at best and lol..calling shuunsui mid level..><...check your head..go to some doctor..then argue...
    Kid..
    Do you know what is a low level captain? For example, Sui Fon, Komamura and Tosen, Ichigo would have pwned each and every one of these without a mask.
    And what make you think Shunsui is not a mid level captain? Do you actually think he can be equal with high level captains such as Aizen, Urahara or Isshin?!
    He got beat up by Aizen after one blow when Aizen not even using his powers, 1 sword swing with his basic powers and Shunsui is down, he is a joke, and his Shikai is even a bigger joke and you actually think he is super duper stronge because some old fart said it 200 episodes ago.
    Oh and by the way, the only reason he could've beat Stark is because he didn't want to fight, so basicly your statement that Shunsui is so powerful is based on nothing.
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by ShayD3 View Post
    Kid..
    Do you know what is a low level captain? For example, Sui Fon, Komamura and Tosen, Ichigo would have pwned each and every one of these without a mask.
    And what make you think Shunsui is not a mid level captain? Do you actually think he can be equal with high level captains such as Aizen, Urahara or Isshin?!
    He got beat up by Aizen after one blow when Aizen not even using his powers, 1 sword swing with his basic powers and Shunsui is down, he is a joke, and his Shikai is even a bigger joke and you actually think he is super duper stronge because some old fart said it 200 episodes ago.
    Oh and by the way, the only reason he could've beat Stark is because he didn't want to fight, so basicly your statement that Shunsui is so powerful is based on nothing.
    Stupidity at its finest.

    -Soi fon low level captain? LOL. How funny is this.

    -Aizen and Urahara were just geniuses, and you can't judge Isshin's power because we have seen nothing significant. Shunsui is a high level captain along with Ukitake, Unohana and Genryuusai. Don't forget Shunsui and Ukitake fought the first espada, and NEVER used their Bankai.

    -Any captain would get owned by Aizen besides Genryuusai. Use your brain, they've all seen his Shikai which means Aizen can do his illusion crap anytime he wants. Why do you think SS depended on Ichigo? Because he hasn't seen Aizen's shikai.

    -What are you on about? Starrk decided to fight mid way through the battle after hearing about Bankai. Are you sure you read the manga properly?

    Your logic is stupid, fix it. You don't judge someone's power because they haven't shown it. Ukitake and Shunsui are mid level captains because they never used Bankai and never show the full potential of their Shikai. Yeah, right.

    You must be one of them idiots that think Aizen is > then Genryuusai, because Genryuusai has never been in a serious full on battle and never released Bankai and lost an arm because he was protecting people.

    Oh and btw I don't understand how you classify Shunsui and Ukitake as mid level captains, but classify Urahara as a high level captain when he has never shown Bankai. Same with Isshin.

    You must be Kubo to know someones power level even though they've never used their full power.

    Kubo pls tell me what's going to happen next in the manga.
     
         

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