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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by o0eric0o View Post
    Maybe hes like ikkaku he could be a captain but hes fine with where hes at. Yammy's numer is'nt the only 1 that changed and probly aizen did know about it knew ulquiora was the only 1 that was going to be able to push ichigo to new level's like he said he planed it all. And you cant seriously think halibel is actuly stronger than ulquiora. Btw you only think stark is the strongest cause he has #1 on his hand but ulquiora's second release isnt ranked so you dont know and by far ulquiora fought the strongest opponant.
    Logic is not used in your post. Now you're comparing Ikkaku to Ulquiorra? Doesn't make sense.

    Halibel is stronger than Ulquiorra, I don't think it, I know it because Ulquiorra stated it and he has no reason to lie.

    And yeah I know Starrk is the strongest espada. The number 1 says it already. Starrk held off multiple captains with ease until it became 3 or 4v1. And they weren't just any captains. They were Visored's and 2 of the longest running captains in Soul Society.
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by lubricati0n View Post
    Logic is not used in your post. Now you're comparing Ikkaku to Ulquiorra? Doesn't make sense.

    Halibel is stronger than Ulquiorra, I don't think it, I know it because Ulquiorra stated it and he has no reason to lie.

    And yeah I know Starrk is the strongest espada. The number 1 says it already. Starrk held off multiple captains with ease until it became 3 or 4v1. And they weren't just any captains. They were Visored's and 2 of the longest running captains in Soul Society.
    What I implied by that was that like ikkaku ulquiora doesnt care that their are 3 that are higher ranked than him else why wouldnt he reveal his second release to try to get higher in the rankings.

    Halibel wouldnt last 1 second vs hollow ichigo neither would stark and you keep forgeting that the 1-2-3-4 ranks dont take into account ulquiora's second release else he would have a 4 on his chest just like he does at base and first release.

    And btw 3 of those captains couldnt do much of anything vs stark other than reflect his ceo's back at him the 2 visards are both weaker than ichigo also
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by o0eric0o View Post
    What I implied by that was that like ikkaku ulquiora doesnt care that their are 3 that are higher ranked than him else why wouldnt he reveal his second release to try to get higher in the rankings.

    Halibel wouldnt last 1 second vs hollow ichigo neither would stark and you keep forgeting that the 1-2-3-4 ranks dont take into account ulquiora's second release else he would have a 4 on his chest just like he does at base and first release.

    And btw 3 of those captains couldnt do much of anything vs stark other than reflect his ceo's back at him the 2 visards are both weaker than ichigo also
    lol you're so bad.

    Yes, Ulquiorra's release gave him much more power but like I said Ulquiorra has NO legit reason to lie whatsoever. He and Ikkaku are different. Their reasons are different. Fact is Ulquiorra said there are 3 espada stronger than him which can only mean one thing. His second release could put him on par with espada 1-3's BASE levels. But once 1-3 release their resurreccion they're stronger.

    Also, how can you said espada 1-3 are nothing compared to Ichigo. Firstly he's the main character, secondly you can't use that type of logic. You don't know the difference in power between espada's 1-4 because there is no proof and the databook is inaccurate.

    Yeah okay? I already knew they couldn't do much against Starrk? Your point? Too bad you forgot neither the captains or visored's released Bankai. Also what if everyone is weaker than Ichigo? I don't see how this relates to the other espada being weaker than Ulquiorra.

    Your replies keep getting off topic.
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Didn't starrk die by not paying attention and getting stabbed by a shadow..

    No captain that he fought really took advantage of him. Ullquiora vs. Love,rose, shinsui and white haired dude? Ulquiora gets powned 20 tines out of 5.

    to end this thread though, Barrigan would crush him no matter what form ulquiorra uses with little difficulty. Therefore ulquiorra isn't the strongest..
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    barrigan would beat stark also and any1 else 1vs1 they can't do anything about his death skills
     
         
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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by lubricati0n View Post
    lol you're so bad.

    Yes, Ulquiorra's release gave him much more power but like I said Ulquiorra has NO legit reason to lie whatsoever. He and Ikkaku are different. Their reasons are different. Fact is Ulquiorra said there are 3 espada stronger than him which can only mean one thing. His second release could put him on par with espada 1-3's BASE levels. But once 1-3 release their resurreccion they're stronger.

    Also, how can you said espada 1-3 are nothing compared to Ichigo. Firstly he's the main character, secondly you can't use that type of logic. You don't know the difference in power between espada's 1-4 because there is no proof and the databook is inaccurate.

    Yeah okay? I already knew they couldn't do much against Starrk? Your point? Too bad you forgot neither the captains or visored's released Bankai. Also what if everyone is weaker than Ichigo? I don't see how this relates to the other espada being weaker than Ulquiorra.

    Your replies keep getting off topic.
    You do realize that your saying hitsugaya would pwn ichigo right your saying 2nd release ulquiora = unreleased halibel and i dint say ichigo i said hollow ichigo you know the demon that faught with ulquiora and im not getting off topic your just not understanding my point. Look at it this way will you the whole ulquiora losing his #4 means theres nomore room to rank him among the 0-9 that he surpassed them all, did you really expect the author to just change the numbers of 0-3 to reflect ulquiora's new power while they were fighting at that. And well if you cant see why them being weaker than ichigo would make a difrence if ulquiora can beat up ichigo he can beat up most of the captains 1vs1 no problem and he was beating ichigo while in his first release.

    Also you seem to think that theres a very big diffrence from 1-4 when their probly all close in base and first release they all had similar sized released reiatsu spike sept difrent colors and when he said their were 3 stronger than him it doesnt mean that its the same difrence as him and grimjaw

    And btw its not just the 3 top espada's that are ina class of their own its the top 4 aizen had forbiden all 4 of them from using a certain cero or releasing
     
         
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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Barragan is the strongest.
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by o0eric0o View Post
    You do realize that your saying hitsugaya would pwn ichigo right your saying 2nd release ulquiora = unreleased halibel and i dint say ichigo i said hollow ichigo you know the demon that faught with ulquiora and im not getting off topic your just not understanding my point. Look at it this way will you the whole ulquiora losing his #4 means theres nomore room to rank him among the 0-9 that he surpassed them all, did you really expect the author to just change the numbers of 0-3 to reflect ulquiora's new power while they were fighting at that. And well if you cant see why them being weaker than ichigo would make a difrence if ulquiora can beat up ichigo he can beat up most of the captains 1vs1 no problem and he was beating ichigo while in his first release.

    Also you seem to think that theres a very big diffrence from 1-4 when their probly all close in base and first release they all had similar sized released reiatsu spike sept difrent colors and when he said their were 3 stronger than him it doesnt mean that its the same difrence as him and grimjaw

    And btw its not just the 3 top espada's that are ina class of their own its the top 4 aizen had forbiden all 4 of them from using a certain cero or releasing
    I partly agree with this.

    Ulquiorra, halibel, Starrk and barrigan were on a completely different level then the other espada's.

    I still think:

    1. Barrigan
    2. Starrk (yes I'm biased )
    3. Ulquiorra
    4 harribel (not too far behind ulquiorra)
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    No I'm pretty sure barrigan could beat him and starrk too depending on the situation.
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by dragongoku View Post
    the numbers are for brute strength. if you want brain power go to sazell. if you want willpower go to nnoitria. each of them are unique they best each other in some way or another
    That's true but as we can see through their fights they have their numbers for more than just that reason.
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Eh idk, he could be placed 2nd or third, I don't see him beating barrigan
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by Owarij View Post
    Eh idk, he could be placed 2nd or third, I don't see him beating barrigan
    Dont see yammy beating barrigan either but hes ranked 0, with that said I dont think the ranks are based on who can beat who but who has more reiastu and ulquiorra's second release isnt ranked
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by NLee View Post
    No. Ulquiorra was not the strongest Espada. Ya he had his Segunda Etapa big deal. It doesn't change the fact that the Captains are on a whole other standard than Ichigo. Had Ulquiorra gone up against Kyoraku he would have lost with mid difficulty on Kyoraku's part.

    My point? Stark was the strongest Espada. Not Ulquiorra. Ulquiorra deserves his 4th position. 3rd at best.



    What is that I hear? You want proof? Here:
    http://www.mangapanda.com/94-725-20/...apter-271.html

    Ulquiorra knows he's the only one with the Segunda Etapa and he still states there are 3 more Espada who are stronger than he is.
    Reading that manga extract looks more of a way to demorale the enemy not an actual valid statement. It was probably "his line" or whatever whenever he was challenged by someone.
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulum1337 View Post
    Reading that manga extract looks more of a way to demorale the enemy not an actual valid statement. It was probably "his line" or whatever whenever he was challenged by someone.
    I know right all he does is try to discourage ichigo and he lied too since with yammy released that would make 4 stronger than him in first release and ppl think starks the strongest but as far as the ranks go yammy is really #1 since 0>1>2>3>4
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by o0eric0o View Post
    I know right all he does is try to discourage ichigo and he lied too since with yammy released that would make 4 stronger than him in first release and ppl think starks the strongest but as far as the ranks go yammy is really #1 since 0>1>2>3>4
    Maybe he thinks he is stronger then Halibel, or Yammy is too stupid tobe considered stronger.
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eternity000 View Post
    Maybe he thinks he is stronger then Halibel, or Yammy is too stupid tobe considered stronger.
    Maybe he knows he can beat yammy in first release even though yammy is stronger probly why he treats him the way he does, Dunno why ppl can find it sohard for ulquiora to become the strongest after seing the huge difrence in power when the weakest releases it wouldnt be that much of a diffrence for ulquiora hes allrdy close to the top
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by nlee View Post
    no. Ulquiorra was not the strongest espada. Ya he had his segunda etapa big deal. It doesn't change the fact that the captains are on a whole other standard than ichigo. Had ulquiorra gone up against kyoraku he would have lost with mid difficulty on kyoraku's part.

    My point? Stark was the strongest espada. Not ulquiorra. Ulquiorra deserves his 4th position. 3rd at best.



    What is that i hear? You want proof? Here:


    Ulquiorra knows he's the only one with the segunda etapa and he still states there are 3 more espada who are stronger than he is.

    are you freaking kidding me?

    Seriously, I just don't know where to start from to explain you how wrong you are.

    First of all, Ichigo unmasked is in a mid captain level, like Byakuya, Kenpachi, Hitsugaya, Ukitake, Shunsui and a few more, and yes, Ukitake and Shunsui are a mid level captains, these 2 clowns never showed us anything impressive, i don't care that it's been said that both of them are the most powerful shinigamis in Soul Society after Yamamoto which is pure nonsense, exactly like Uluqiorra said that there are 3 Espadas stronger than him, which is again bullsh!t, only the abilities that the characters show us tells us exactly what they are capable of.

    Let me ask you something, Yammy claims to be the strogest of the Espada, does it mean it is acutally true?


    -Harribel was beaten by Hitsugaya, who is a mid level captain who would have lose to masked Ichigo. Ulquiorra's unreleased powers were equal to a masked Ichigo.
    Also we didn't see anything threatening from her except the Cascada which is far far behind Ulquiorra's Lanza del Relámpago, not mentioning his monstrous speed and high speed regeneration.

    -Baraggan was beaten by a simple Kido, ENOUGH SAID.
    What also a real opponent other than Sui Fon would rip his head off before he could touch him.

    -Stark was one tough guy but at the end of the day all he was doing was shooting Ceros.

    -Yammy shouldn't be an Espada at all.


    And again, not everything the characters tell us is true, Ulquiorra said that because he wanted Ichigo to doubt himself, if you actually knew what you are talking about, you'd knew that Ulquiorra tends to play with his target's mind.
     
         
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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by ShayD3 View Post
    are you freaking kidding me?

    Seriously, I just don't know where to start from to explain you how wrong you are.

    First of all, Ichigo unmasked is in a mid captain level, like Byakuya, Kenpachi, Hitsugaya, Ukitake, Shunsui and a few more, and yes, Ukitake and Shunsui are a mid level captains, these 2 clowns never showed us anything impressive, i don't care that it's been said that both of them are the most powerful shinigamis in Soul Society after Yamamoto which is pure nonsense, exactly like Uluqiorra said that there are 3 Espadas stronger than him, which is again bullsh!t, only the abilities that the characters show us tells us exactly what they are capable of.

    Let me ask you something, Yammy claims to be the strogest of the Espada, does it mean it is acutally true?


    -Harribel was beaten by Hitsugaya, who is a mid level captain who would have lose to masked Ichigo. Ulquiorra's unreleased powers were equal to a masked Ichigo.
    Also we didn't see anything threatening from her except the Cascada which is far far behind Ulquiorra's Lanza del Relámpago, not mentioning his monstrous speed and high speed regeneration.

    -Baraggan was beaten by a simple Kido, ENOUGH SAID.
    What also a real opponent other than Sui Fon would rip his head off before he could touch him.

    -Stark was one tough guy but at the end of the day all he was doing was shooting Ceros.

    -Yammy shouldn't be an Espada at all.


    And again, not everything the characters tell us is true, Ulquiorra said that because he wanted Ichigo to doubt himself, if you actually knew what you are talking about, you'd knew that Ulquiorra tends to play with his target's mind.
    Very nicely put. I agree.
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by ShayD3 View Post
    are you freaking kidding me?

    Seriously, I just don't know where to start from to explain you how wrong you are.

    First of all, Ichigo unmasked is in a mid captain level, like Byakuya, Kenpachi, Hitsugaya, Ukitake, Shunsui and a few more, and yes, Ukitake and Shunsui are a mid level captains, these 2 clowns never showed us anything impressive, i don't care that it's been said that both of them are the most powerful shinigamis in Soul Society after Yamamoto which is pure nonsense, exactly like Uluqiorra said that there are 3 Espadas stronger than him, which is again bullsh!t, only the abilities that the characters show us tells us exactly what they are capable of.

    Let me ask you something, Yammy claims to be the strogest of the Espada, does it mean it is acutally true?


    -Harribel was beaten by Hitsugaya, who is a mid level captain who would have lose to masked Ichigo. Ulquiorra's unreleased powers were equal to a masked Ichigo.
    Also we didn't see anything threatening from her except the Cascada which is far far behind Ulquiorra's Lanza del Relámpago, not mentioning his monstrous speed and high speed regeneration.

    -Baraggan was beaten by a simple Kido, ENOUGH SAID.
    What also a real opponent other than Sui Fon would rip his head off before he could touch him.

    -Stark was one tough guy but at the end of the day all he was doing was shooting Ceros.

    -Yammy shouldn't be an Espada at all.


    And again, not everything the characters tell us is true, Ulquiorra said that because he wanted Ichigo to doubt himself, if you actually knew what you are talking about, you'd knew that Ulquiorra tends to play with his target's mind.
    are you freaking kidding me..dont give us this BS...ichigo without his mask is a low level cap=pt at best and lol..calling shuunsui mid level..><...check your head..go to some doctor..then argue...
     
         

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    Re: Ulquiora strongest espada?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rand al'Thor View Post
    are you freaking kidding me..dont give us this BS...ichigo without his mask is a low level cap=pt at best and lol..calling shuunsui mid level..><...check your head..go to some doctor..then argue...
    Kid..
    Do you know what is a low level captain? For example, Sui Fon, Komamura and Tosen, Ichigo would have pwned each and every one of these without a mask.
    And what make you think Shunsui is not a mid level captain? Do you actually think he can be equal with high level captains such as Aizen, Urahara or Isshin?!
    He got beat up by Aizen after one blow when Aizen not even using his powers, 1 sword swing with his basic powers and Shunsui is down, he is a joke, and his Shikai is even a bigger joke and you actually think he is super duper stronge because some old fart said it 200 episodes ago.
    Oh and by the way, the only reason he could've beat Stark is because he didn't want to fight, so basicly your statement that Shunsui is so powerful is based on nothing.
     
         

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