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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 588 Discussions and 589 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by radienx000 View Post
    For those who think Hashirama couldn't have beaten Madara... think again.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WvXqv4nARc
    That video is from a video game, it's not canon, just like the movies aren't canon. Kishi hasn't shown us the fight between Madara and Hashirama. Just like he hasn't shown us when and how Madara got Rinnegan, or what really happened to Izuna.

    Those are all very important things that Kishi wouldn't put in a video game before he released in a manga. You're an idiot if you think that video is accurate.
     
         

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    cool chapter.. but, in my opinion, all the kages must have a something big partner such a summoning (tsunade=katsuyu and others)..only that something really big can beat that big perfect susano... and also, i think that the only person can beat the big susano is tsunade. she have a great physical attack plus she had a regeration, so she wouldn't die in the battle..
    i want she shows her real power, which is her greatest jutsus, such as wood jutsus or water jutsus, like her grandfather and granduncle..
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 588 Discussions and 589 Predictions

    Honestly, cancelling the jutsu: Edo Tensei won't really remove threat. With the likes of Madara, his soul must be sealed completely using a strong sealing jutsu just like with the other previous strong shinobi (1-4 Hokages) to prevent future Edo Tensei users from summoning them. In that case, genuine peace can be achieved.

    One way to do that is Tsuande showing some badass Uzumaki sealing jutsu, which I hope happens! Seriously, if Kishi needs some suggestions on how he could give power-ups for his female characters, I will be most willingly to volunteer. ;)
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 588 Discussions and 589 Predictions

    i think they're making mdara to strong
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 588 Discussions and 589 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by UnrealSoul View Post
    He didn't gain the rinnegan 5 min before his death silly man.He been had it weeks or even months before his death.Use common sense man.

    Good day sir,
    Yeah I have to agree with you, most likely Madara had the Rhinnengan way before his death, I truely believe that is why he had the balls to face the 1st Hokage. Think about it for a second, as smart and cunning and powerful as Madara was in that era why would you challenge someone who has the highest feats in the ninja world, only stupid ninjas with blind ambitions do things like that. Madara chose to fight the 1st because he had discovered his evolution of the sharringan <-mis-spell and had been training with it in secret only he alone knew about this. But....... what he didn't know was that the first had mastered many ancient differing art styles that even trumped his Rhinningan. Those large scrolls that 1st lays all over the battle field are not ordinary scrolls, that was one of the 1st Hokage's ambitions was to gather all of these ancient scrolls, he didn't just acquire them by accident.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverlugia View Post
    i think they're making mdara to strong
    I understand where you coming from but just think about it for a second, in this generation there aren't many wars. In fact ninjas are living longer in this current era. Way back when Madara and the 1st were living they had constant wars, they had so many that there were many population of clans that were just eliminated -> think about this where is the clans that Naruto's mother came from and where did the clan that the Beyokugon <- don't know how to spell it - where did they all go huh? They were all killed in war, there are many villages besides the sand, leaf, rain, cloud and rock that existed but they seem to be all gone due to the constant wars. I say this to inform you that because of this the earlier generations of ninjas were just more powerful due to practice and ambitions of power and war. Look at the kage of the rock Onoki he is mad more powerful than the other kages and he is waaaay out of his prime, his level of ninjutsu is beyond A, Gaara, Tsunade, and the other lady, why do you think Madara only feels he is a threat mm. He is from two generations ago when there was more war than now so that is why he has those powerful moves.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evolve81 View Post
    I understand where you coming from but just think about it for a second, in this generation there aren't many wars. In fact ninjas are living longer in this current era. Way back when Madara and the 1st were living they had constant wars, they had so many that there were many population of clans that were just eliminated -> think about this where is the clans that Naruto's mother came from and where did the clan that the Beyokugon <- don't know how to spell it - where did they all go huh? They were all killed in war, there are many villages besides the sand, leaf, rain, cloud and rock that existed but they seem to be all gone due to the constant wars. I say this to inform you that because of this the earlier generations of ninjas were just more powerful due to practice and ambitions of power and war. Look at the kage of the rock Onoki he is mad more powerful than the other kages and he is waaaay out of his prime, his level of ninjutsu is beyond A, Gaara, Tsunade, and the other lady, why do you think Madara only feels he is a threat mm. He is from two generations ago when there was more war than now so that is why he has those powerful moves.
    I totally agree with you plus since the 1st time I saw Oonoki I told everyone he was the strongest Kage, no1 beleived me...well now there is proof. His dust release is just incredible. Plus like you said he isnt even in his prime.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 588 Discussions and 589 Predictions

    This chapter pretty much cleared up one suspicion I had, which was that anyone can cancel the edo-tensei. Kishi could come back next week and have Kabuto tell Itachi that only he can do it, but it seems to be otherwise for now.
     
         

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    after seeing this chapter, i don't think that the five kages have a chance against madara but this is just my opinion. the only way there can defeat madara now is only if itachi stopes the eco tensie. madara is just too strong + his complete sasonoo will rape the five kages
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by bebapuopeleh15 View Post
    after seeing this chapter, i don't think that the five kages have a chance against madara but this is just my opinion. the only way there can defeat madara now is only if itachi stopes the eco tensie. madara is just too strong + his complete sasonoo will rape the five kages
    but i really want someone to defeat him and show the new generation has gotten stronger and this is the perfect opponent for sasuke so that he can finally be on BM Naruto level otherwise there no opponet sasuke can prove to be equal unless he fights naruto again
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 588 Discussions and 589 Predictions

    It looks like madara can only use the perfect form susan'o while the rinnegan is activated.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 588 Discussions and 589 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by radienx000 View Post
    For those who think Hashirama couldn't have beaten Madara... think again.
    So I followed the link to that YouTube display of Madara vs Hirashima from one of the Naruto video games. I was not impressed at all, the only thing that this shows is how easily one of the tailed beast can be taken out by the 1st Hokages power, I was just disappointed because of the lack of fight that they put into the battle there just should have been a little more powers displayed mind you that they only animated the beginning of the fight so who knows what techniques they displayed after Hirashima took out the 9 tails. But I will say this as a reminder to people out that undermine the 1st Hokage's power --> Hirashima is the only ninja in the world to date that has captured all of the tailed beast by himself.... NOT even Naruto did that, it doesn't count if they are just willing to just join you. Hirashima had to tame those beast.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilesm View Post
    It looks like madara can only use the perfect form susan'o while the rinnegan is activated.
    absolutely wrong. The act of performing perfect susano can only be obtained by activating ur MS, ITACHI has proven that one. With sasuke because he used to much and not gradually progressing his sight faded quickly but EMS U are actually able permanently use it at its highest strength. Now with rinnegan u gain new power but never lose sharingan power at all 3 levels.
     
         

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    Now I am just throwing this out there. From all the lesson that we have heard about dispelling genjutsu cast upon on a ninja. I was thinking kabuto still has a chance because of the white snake. To me it seems that they are 2 different people and if itachi cast izanami on kabuto the snake might still be alive cos if look at the jiraiya situation when he went sage mode, pa & ma didn't have nothing to with jiraiya when he hurt, it didn't cost no damage to either of them.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 588 Discussions and 589 Predictions

    589 - Survive!

    (The Kages look up at the colossal, mega construct in absolute deference.)

    Gaara: “How on earth do we beat that?”

    Raikage: “WE DON’T YOU FOOL! WE’RE GONNA DIE IF WE TRY, NO TWO ****S ABOUT IT!”

    Tsunade (shivering in utter fear): “If there are anymore words of encourage, I’d like to hear them now, Tsuchikage!”

    Tsuchikage: “Noo, Raikage’s right for once. We have to survive, flee, and live to fight another day-strategic retreat. You don’t think I’ve lived this long without being able to know when to cut my losses. Don't think this means we're giving up. We'll hunt him down and try to take him out in every theater of war he he crops, one day when we are adequately prepared. ”

    Mei: “Well, what are we waiting for? I don’t want to die before I’m married!”

    (The ultimate Susano-o forms a dark, purplish flame in its right hand and spiraling winds crackling with light electricity in its left hand. The Susano-o then starts to forcibly mix the two chakras together, creating instability and earthquakes. Meanwhile, the Kages are fleeing, but stay close together.)

    Madara: “I don’t think so… You’ve forced my hand, now deal with the consequences! I'll call this one, Flame of End Days! With this power, I can create and ruin!”

    (The Susano-o controls a miniature, purplish, black, flaming vortex between two hands. Susano-o places it on the ground. Soon it gathers tremendous mass and range as it spins viciously through the air. The Kages look back to spot the gargantuan inferno as it engulfs the surrounding area, setting unholy fires to the environment. The sky, dark sends out branches of lightning tendrils that are reaching down from the sky, linking to the massive hurricane below. The Kages turn to face their doom, walls of darkness clouds out all else visible.)

    Tsunade: “We can’t outrun this!” (Raikage outreaches his right hand.)

    Raikage: “AHHHHHHH! (Raikage’s Ration Armor dissipates around him, causing a circular Raiton barrier encasing him and the rest of the Kages.) This is only a buffer! I need reinforcement!” (Gaara makes a handseal, which causes sand to force its way out of the Raiton field to encase the Kages in a dense, dome of sand.)

    Tsuchikage: “As long as this body draws breath-!” (Tsuchikage pounds the earth beneath him, this causes a layer of rock to encase the sand in yet another protective dome. As the spiraling flames collide with the Kages’ defenses, it starts to crack, seconds later, the whole dome is engulfed in flames. From the top view, the hurricane is eating away at least a 5 mile radius. The scene switches over to HQ, everyone inside feels a deep tremor.)

    Shikaku: “What the hell was that?! Inoichi?!” (Inoichi speaks from his seat, sensing the happenings in areas with the other sensors.)

    Inoichi: “I, uhh, I don’t know how to say this…” (The scene switches over to Naruto vs. Tobi. A spark flashes in the sky, as Naruto and Tobi separate from each other. They both land to the ground about 15ft from each other. Tobi’s mask his half destroyed along with holes in his fan, and his robe in tatters. Naruto’s headband is gone, he has his top jacket blown off, and his under shirt in tatters. Naruto bleeds from his mouth and is covered in minor scratches, Tobi has a scar going across the exposed portion of his face’s skin [like Scar in the Lion King].)

    Naruto: “That couldn’t have been good. I need to finish this before more are hurt…”

    Tobi: “Must’ve been him, just what has Kabuto been up to with that Edo Tensei?”

    (A little ways a way, Kakashi and Gai are holding up a severely exhausted Killer Bee.)

    Gai: “Woah, did you feel that, guys?”

    Kakashi: “Yes, indeed. Whatever’s going on is just as intense as here.”

    Killer Bee: “Baddies, cut us a break for our sake…”

    (The scene switches back over to Madara’s location. He has withdrawn his Susano-o.)

    Madara: “Hmph, can’t say I was disappointed. I was able to draw out among my most potent of techniques; the Rinnegan is truly impressive. Now, onto more pressing concerns. (As he turns his back and takes another step, he hears a crack. He picks up his hand notices that it’s cracking. WHAT IS THIS?”

    Next time: Edo Tensei's Collapse


    ANOTHER PREDICTION


    Chapter 589 : Edo tensei no more.

    Tsunade: !! That's...
    Ei: It's enourmous...
    Gaara: ....
    Onoki: The technique he used to fatally wound Hashirama-dono
    Madara's Perfect Susano, the summoning of Susano himself.
    Mei: What?
    Onoki: Since Madara was the very first Uchiha to awaken the eternal mangekyou sharingan, he was privileged with the actual form of Susano, the warrior.
    Onoki: I've never seen it in battle, we can only assume things will be a lot worse.
    Madara: Oh, things will be a lot worse.
    Ei: You damn Uchiha!
    Tsunade: Madara, you should be grateful thaty you are dead, the Tsuchikage managed to blow your arm and leg off. It's given you a second chance.
    Madara: ....is that how you see this? You think this..."regeneration" is to my advantage? Fine
    Madara uses a handseal
    A giant mouth opens and swallows him
    Tsunade: That's!!
    Madara comes back out, normal.
    Ei: I...don't believe it...
    Madara: There, now there can be no complaints, I'm mortal.

    Scene switch to Mifune and Kankuro who are heading back to the camp
    Omoi: I can only stream so much more chakra into Deidara...
    Kankuro: We need to find sealers, until then, you have to.
    Omoi: no...I...can't...all out of....
    Omoi collapses
    Mifune: Kankuro!
    Deidara: !? This..this is my chance.

    Scene switch to Chouza
    Dan: Chouza, where are your sealers?
    Chouza: There are only so many going around.
    One of the fodder holding the cube seal intact collapses
    Dan: !!
    Chouza; Shit, Darui!
    Darui: What's happened?
    Kakuzu: I wouldn't leave your guard open boy.
    Kakuzu and Hizashi are tied to a rock with chains.
    Darui: You shut your old mouth up, you won't be doing anything anytime soon anyway.
    Chouza; !? No...
    Dan: Run Chouza! *Secret technique, Ghost transformation*
    Darui: !?
    Dan slowly goes into the ground. The technique is exactly like Tobi's
    Chouza: Darui, watch out!
    Dan come out from behind and sticks his hand through Darui, Darui goes numb
    Dan releases Kakuzu and Hizashi
    Chouza: no...we only have so many people.

    Scene switch to the rookies running
    All of the sudden they are met with Muu and Genma's squad
    Neji: What's this?
    Sakura: Genma-san!
    Shikamaru: That's the enemy, attack him!
    Muu: No other choice.
    Muu removes the bandages on his chest, he has the same jutsu as Deidara near his heart.
    Rubber dude: No way...EVERYBODY RUN!
    Muu/Deidara simultaneously: Boom!
    A big flash of light
    Hizashi holding Chouza by the neck
    Kakuzu ripping Darui's hear out
    Dan traveling to Madara's location.

    Itachi: And now, the finale.
    Kabuto ends Edo tensei
    All the edos vanish
    Dan manages to sneak a peak on Tsunade
    Dan: Good...
     
         

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    tobi fought hashirama and used izangai to escape
    the battle in critical condition with most of his
    powers locked away but gaining new ones in return. madara gave him his eyes.A plan was hatched and they fought Hashirama once more in one of the many civil wars raging on at that time and defeated him which sparked the first shinobi world war.(I assume the conversation the young onoki had with madara in the flashback in the beginning of the kage fight with madara was right before the first world war when his plan was already in motion)The 2nd probably made the impure world intended to resurrect his brother but due to the reaction from most countries and himself i guess ? not really sure but anyway most thought it was
    an atrocity against the flow of life and death
    so he decided not to use it anymore although
    at the same time tobi was using his dna for his own needs.The uzamaki clan are slain and remaining members flee to other countries.
    madara dies in the war as well but another plan is hatched or was already part of the plan
    is set in motion at that time as well tobi
    plants the rinnegan into a young nagato
    one of the few shinobi with the right bloodline
    to use the eyes(to take the heat off him so he can work in the shadows and start his recruiting phase for his impending actions
    which is to capture the tailed beast.
    the 2nd dies in the war leaving Hiruzen to rule
    who takes the eventual dubb sannin shinobi
    under his wing orochimaru a genius of his generation disbands but not before
    delving into experiments with the 1rst dna
    that the 2nd was unwilling to do and expirements with danzo and eventually even
    makes a albeit watered down wood stlye clone
    of the first he goes unaware of this for some time before actually encountering him since he left konaha before the test were all finished
    he was the only positive result the rest of the shinobi died in the process.The 3rd war sets off
    this is the war that involved most of the shinobi
    tobi would recruit seeing as how everyone has finally made themselves a name and are processed int he bingo book and the history provided on akatski by the members themselves.nagato is older creates akatski discovers pain.the war settles.sometime after the fourth reigns.tobi obtains the fox and tries to fight the fourth stripped of the fox he retreats.the fourth dies hiruzen is back in power. the uchiha going through a rebellious stage are watched
    tobi with itachi kills the uchiha clan
    to prevent a war on itachi's part and revenge on tobi's though it might of also been to cover his tracks and throw dirt on the history even '
    more or all who knows lol tobi controls the fourth mizukage brings in the bloody mist era
    forms and allicance with nagato/pain
    recruits kisama kukazu itachi the rest follow suit the naruto series starts now fast forward
    nagato dies near mid completion of plan most 'akatski died tobi takes back rinnegan.{i highly doubt tobi was going to follow through with
    the plan i think he made with madara
    but when kabuto enters the picture madara
    is brought back and he even has a similar conversation with kabuto in the first couple of momments he was brought back since he even
    thought being brought back that way was for the most part a dispicable thing to do.the rest is yet to be seen.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 588 Discussions and 589 Predictions

    Tsuchikage is older and more knowledgable, therefore, "stronger".
    He knows more about madara, and the reason he was able to stop the meteor is because of his earth style jutsu, he made the meteor lighter than it was making it "easier", if you will, to stop it. Plus, towards the end gaara helped a little in stopping the meteor.

    I'm not putting the tsuchikage down, but him stopping the meteor doesn't mean he is stronger than raikage. They both have their expertise.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 588 Discussions and 589 Predictions

    The previous chapter really dragged too long especially with kabutos flashback, atleast we have a reprieve now.........gooed team work from the kages, i hope itachi stops the endo tensei in the next chapter....cant wait to read it!
     
         

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    from the manga, it seems the later generation is weak compared to the former generation. I mean it was the 1st hokage alone fighting madara. i was expecting just 1 kage to be fighting him not the 5 of them. This shows that the present day kages are weak compared to the former. i just pray naruto outshine them all, i mean i wish he doesn't take the kage title after the war because i know they will want him to have it. I see naruto refusing the title because he feels he hasn't change sasuke yet.
     
         

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    who else craped thier pants when they saw the perfect sasuno'o?
     
         

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    this week chapter should b gd
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 588 Discussions and 589 Predictions

    it was goo can't wait until the next one
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 588 Discussions and 589 Predictions

    This was a decent fight I can't wait to the next when all five kages go in to fight the real madara.This will be the final battle.

    Senju vs. Uchiha


    :flawTsunade will beat Madara)
     
         

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