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    [Theory]Looking at left and right

    Its a really interresting theory i found at mangahelpers. Lots of the things in the theory has been proven true, and theres alot info, enjoy. I tried making a search for it so i havent reposted it, but couldnt find anything. Sorry if its a repost.
    Theres another post/theory/fanfic connected to this one too.
    MangaHelpers - View Single Post - Naruto 433 Discussion/ 434 Predictions Thread - Part 1

    First, the basics:

    First. I'm a strong believer of the importance of the Kyuubi been sealed inside Naruto's body. I believe Yondaime didn't sealed it because he had no other choice, but because he strongly believed his son would use that powerful chakra source in the future to protect the leaf village as stated here:

    Naruto 370 page 11 | One Manga

    here:

    Naruto 370 page 13 | One Manga

    and here:

    Naruto 370 page 14 | One Manga

    Second. Some ppl may want Naruto to get captured and Kyuubi extracted and somehow Naruto will survive, but since the beginning of the manga, the importance of Kyuubi in Naruto's life has been stated in one way or another. It's a fact that Naruto don't want to rely on Kyuubi assistance, but i think eventually both Naruto and Kyuubi can reach mutual understanding and will reach a deal. I elaborate on this later on.

    Third. It wasn't show with Gaara/Ichibi, but KillerBee/Hachibi portrays a similar scenario than Naruto/Kyuubi. Both Jinchuurikis, KillerBee has an "inner dimension" too, where Hachibi and a "inner self" version of KillerBee coexist peacefully and cooperate with each other as seen here:

    Naruto 419 page 15 | One Manga

    In fact, it can be seen that KillerBee is moving, getting out of the lake while "inner self" version of KillerBee is chilling out with Hachibi in the inner dimension.

    I've thinking about the whole "looking left and right" tactic that Naruto employs for FRS and how this tactic could be used to enter sage mode while moving. After reading the Sasuke/Hachibi and sage mode training chapters, it came to my mind this crazy idea. Let me elaborate:

    Now, the theory itself:

    It has been showed through the manga that Naruto has an "inner dimension" where the Kyuubi exists, locked in his jail inside naruto. When Naruto was falling at the waterfalls, he met the fox inside his body forced by the desperate situation and the fear of certain death. It was here:

    Naruto 95 page 17 | One Manga

    That was the first time for Naruto to talk with the Fox and Kyuubi agreed to lend chakra to Naruto. Since then, he got a grip on the trick and started to use Kyuubi chakra when he would need it

    Also, when Naruto fought against Sasuke at the Oro's lair:

    Naruto 308 page 12-13 | One Manga

    There are other examples of the existence of this dimension, but i liked those two examples because they show Naruto in situations where possibly his body wasn't completely still. But "inside" Naruto, in his inner dimension, Naruto can remain still while his physical/exterior body is moving around. My theory implies than Naruto can enter sage mode if he learns the trick to enter this dimension at will and remain still inside that dimension, no matter what is happening in the outside. After all, inside this dimension, Naruto has been portrayed getting Kyuubi chakra, it wouldn't be so far fetched to portray Naruto inside this dimension remaining still and molding sage chakra while the "outer self" is fighting/moving.

    The problem with this is Naruto don't want to rely on Kyuubi chakra anymore, so he doesn't see the need to go inside this "inner self" anymore. One option would be that Pain (or any other powerful enemy at later events on the manga) gives Naruto a good beat and on the verge of defeat, Kyuubi would approach Naruto trying to convince him to use his chakra and release the seal (has done that before). But Naruto would turn him down and he would realize that he can remain still in his inner self molding sage chakra while his outter self is fighting/moving/getting his a** handed to him lol.

    I know this sounds very wild and crazy, but after seeing KillerBee chilling inside his inner self, it doesn't seem so far fetched. Also, one upside of this theory would be that if Kishi goes this way for entering sage mode, he can later take Naruto to new levels, just imagine this scenario: Naruto fighting a powerful enemy (i.e. Pain) while his "inner self" remains still inside his "inner dimension", Kyuubi leaking chakra and inner Naruto molding nature energy and Kyuubi chakra to enter Enhanced Sage Mode or Super Sage Mode.

    I know, "¿But what about Kyuubi's Chakra usage in combat against foes like Madara/Sasuke and their sharingans?", well, there's always Itachi's gift, which i strongly believe is sharingan countermeasures, but this is only my assumption and Kishi has to explain those sort of things later on. Back on my theory, that would be the first part for Naruto: entering sage mode by his inner self remaining still inside his inner dimension.

    The second part it's about the possible future for the manga. Once Naruto masters the sage entering process while moving, without any kind of help from Ni Dai Sennin or KageBunshins or scrolls. He can make use of Kyuubi and the key. For him to use Kyuubi (we know he doesn't want to rely on it anymore), he has to be in an extreme situation where his life would be on the line or even worse: Akatsuki trying to extract the Kyuubi. One probable scenario that comes to my mind is Naruto fighting Pain (not necessarily this current fight but a future fight). Naruto seriously having problems and/or wounded. Kyuubi telling inner Naruto to make a "deal": release the seal, otherwise he will be captured and Kyuubi's power will be used against his beloved people. Of course Naruto will disagree because he loses control over himself and would eventually harm those people who he wants to protect in first place.

    But Kyuubi would tell him that his part of the deal would be not posses Naruto. Kyuubi will propose to be released from the cage but his chakra won't invade Naruto unless Naruto ask for it (a la KillerBee/Hachibi). ¿Why would Kyuubi wants to get out from the cage?. There can be many plot twists but i like to think that Naruto is the prison and Kyuubi is locked down in a tiny cell inside that prison: Kyuubi is locked in a cell without the freedom to wander around the entire prison (just like solitary confinement in modern day prisons). Still imprisoned, but at least able to wander outside a tiny cell sound like a sweet deal for Kyuubi. Besides, inner Naruto will be with him, so, at least Kyuubi won't be alone inside the prison (lol, what a lame reason)

    "¿But what about the key?". I can only make a long shot assumption regarding the key but i think this key would be used to generate a seal around inner Naruto. With Kyuubi out of the cell, Naruto will be constantly exposed to a massive amount of chakra. To prevent this, the key will create a nine level seal around inner Naruto. Later on, Naruto can release several levels of this key (a la Alucard) to have access to Kyuubi's chakra as required and close those levels when not needed.

    "¿But why in the hell would Naruto do such thing?". Well, we have (probably) upcoming events where Naruto will be pushed to the limits:

    1. Upcoming ninja war, as stated here: Naruto 428 page 09 | One Manga
    2. The rise of powerful enemies (i.e. Madara).
    3. The rise of so far unknown enemies. (the manga has a huge success so i don't see kishi finishing this soon, hence the need for new enemies).

    "¿Ok, since you're on it, what about that jutsu?". Since Naruto's training with Jiraiya was before he could know his elemental chakra, i can assume that "that jutsu" (if such a thing exists, since we have several translations stating several things: "that technique", "that power", "that jutsu") is a extremely powerful techique which requires a humongous amount of chakra from Kyuubi (hence the need for Jiraiya to tweak the seal to have access to more chakra). If Naruto eventually releases the fox and use the key, he would be able to control the nine seals key and open 4 or 5 levels to perform "that jutsu" (i repeat, if such a thing really exists). I can even visualize this situation:

    Level 0: 9 seals active. Naruto eating ramen, doing random stuff where no chakra at all is involved.
    Release of Level 1: Naruto's healing abilities improved, no visible physical traits of the fox in Naruto's body.
    Release of Level 2: Enhanced speed and chakra. Only visible physical trait would be Naruto's eyes: Kyuubi like but blue color.
    Release of Level 3: Visible physical traits: Kyuubi's eyes (red), bolden whiskers, pointy teeth. Enhanced healing abilities, speed, chakra and strength.
    Release of Level 4: Same as Level 3 plus the presence of Fox Cloak, but Naruto in total control of himself. Posibly able to perform "that jutsu".
    Release of Level 5 through 8: i'll let you imagine those.
    Release of Level 9: Kyuubi Summoning to the real world, where Kyuubi and Naruto share the same conscience (a la Gaara/Ichibi, just before Gaara performed the Forced Sleep Jutsu). Similar to this situation:

    Naruto 414 page 01 | One Manga
    Naruto 414 page 02 | One Manga
     
         
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    Re: [Theory]Looking at left and right

    nice theory !!
     
         

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    Re: [Theory]Looking at left and right

    ...woah good theory
     
         

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    thanks
     
         

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    Re: [Theory]Looking at left and right

    honestly, this is not a good theory. I'm not just saying this to stir up trouble. If it were that easy, Naruto would have done it already. The problem is is that he can't do things simultaneously with one body, which is why he relies on Kage Bunshins. The whole concept of "looking right while facing left" is having 2 sets of eyes. Naruto's signature jutsu is kage bunshin. That's just the way he operates and makes things work for him.

    And it took me a lot of willpower to continue reading this thread, because
    a.) it's a little ridiculous and
    b.) it was poorly written.

    also, I don't get why people say thankyou when people say good work or nice theory when it isn't even their own theory.
     
         
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    Re: [Theory]Looking at left and right

    Its not my theory, as i said it was from mangahelpers, but the fact that naruto has a inner dimension, and that he maybe could use it to something other than crying or begging the fox for chakra is simply awesome. What I see with the meaning of looking left and right is : Staying still and fighting at the same time. When naruto is in front of the foxes cage, he doesnt disapear from the real world, and he can still fight, while he is in there. "Being at two places at once". The 8tails dude was doing it.. chillin in the inner dimension while walking in the other.

    And you say that naruto would have done it long time ago if it was that simple, it isnt, not to him.
    1. He hates the fox
    2. He's kinda stupid, although he has done alot of smart things in many fights, he just aint good at figuring things like that out.

    Im sorry you have a different opponion about that case, but this is what i think is amazing, with the inner dimension and things.

    When the fox fills him up with chakra in the inner dimension, same thing happens in the real.
    If he gets natural chakra in the inner, he could get it in the real too.

    And I dont get how its poorly written? I dont get it.
     
         
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    Re: [Theory]Looking at left and right

    I like it. Actually I've been thinking a lot of the same things myself reccently. Good job!
     
         

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    Re: [Theory]Looking at left and right

    great job. I am impressed!
     
         

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    Re: [Theory]Looking at left and right

    Quote Originally Posted by konoha s beautiful beast View Post
    great job. I am impressed!
    Me too well done!





     
         

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    Re: [Theory]Looking at left and right

    I also like this theory a lot. Im one of the people that doesnt want the kyuubi to be extracted either, and be used instead.

    but i dont understand............how is Naruto gonna take in Natural chakra as his "inner self" while he is in the kyuubi's place. Doesnt his actual self have to stay still?
     
         

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    Re: [Theory]Looking at left and right

    gr8 work............thnx.......
     
         

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    Re: [Theory]Looking at left and right

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyuubi XZ View Post
    I also like this theory a lot. Im one of the people that doesnt want the kyuubi to be extracted either, and be used instead.

    but i dont understand............how is Naruto gonna take in Natural chakra as his "inner self" while he is in the kyuubi's place. Doesnt his actual self have to stay still?
    No, as you could see kirabi, was walking out of the water, and having a conversation with 8tails.
     
         

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    Re: [Theory]Looking at left and right

    The problem with this is that naruto needs his PHYSICAL body to be still for the natural energy to enter, it doesn't matter if his MENTAL body is still.
     
         

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    Re: [Theory]Looking at left and right

    niceee
     
         

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    Re: [Theory]Looking at left and right

    Quote Originally Posted by icci20 View Post
    The problem with this is that naruto needs his PHYSICAL body to be still for the natural energy to enter, it doesn't matter if his MENTAL body is still.
    Theres nothing called mental body But i was thinking that its another dimension, and his inner self is like a shadowclone. And in his mind, if he got along with kyuubi, he could get chakra from him while gathering natural, and the natural chakra goes to the real naruto, without needing to "release" shadowclone. If hes able to get kyuubi chakra, he should be able to get natural too.

    I just hope that he uses that opportunity, and gets along with kyuubi
     
         

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    Re: [Theory]Looking at left and right

    Quote Originally Posted by Smidvin View Post
    Its not my theory, as i said it was from mangahelpers, but the fact that naruto has a inner dimension, and that he maybe could use it to something other than crying or begging the fox for chakra is simply awesome. What I see with the meaning of looking left and right is : Staying still and fighting at the same time. When naruto is in front of the foxes cage, he doesnt disapear from the real world, and he can still fight, while he is in there. "Being at two places at once". The 8tails dude was doing it.. chillin in the inner dimension while walking in the other.

    And you say that naruto would have done it long time ago if it was that simple, it isnt, not to him.
    1. He hates the fox
    2. He's kinda stupid, although he has done alot of smart things in many fights, he just aint good at figuring things like that out.

    Im sorry you have a different opponion about that case, but this is what i think is amazing, with the inner dimension and things.

    When the fox fills him up with chakra in the inner dimension, same thing happens in the real.
    If he gets natural chakra in the inner, he could get it in the real too.

    And I dont get how its poorly written? I dont get it.
    I agree with you 100%... i dont think naruto will learn to get natural energy while moving bc his in his inner dimension or whatever you want to call it.. if that was possible why wouldnt kishi just do that instead having him use clones...to tell you the truth i c this as more of a fanfic than a theory

    Quote Originally Posted by sakum0n0leonmccash View Post
    honestly, this is not a good theory. I'm not just saying this to stir up trouble. If it were that easy, Naruto would have done it already. The problem is is that he can't do things simultaneously with one body, which is why he relies on Kage Bunshins. The whole concept of "looking right while facing left" is having 2 sets of eyes. Naruto's signature jutsu is kage bunshin. That's just the way he operates and makes things work for him.

    And it took me a lot of willpower to continue reading this thread, because
    a.) it's a little ridiculous and
    b.) it was poorly written.

    also, I don't get why people say thankyou when people say good work or nice theory when it isn't even their own theory.
    sorry wrong quote
     
         
    Last edited by mulske; 04-17-2009 at 11:36 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Re: [Theory]Looking at left and right

    Nice work !
     
         

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