Byakuya vs Urahara

[dbzfreak]

The title says it all, sorry if this thread has been made already.

[Narutohokage7]

Not sure how to delete. Kisuke takes this though! He is the man

[Flame Alchemist]

you can't delete a thread only a mod or admin can.

urahara would win with mid. difficulty

[dbzfreak]

Oh, that stinks. Ok then, thanks for telling me.

[SasukexNeji]

Urahara is very likely above Ukitake and Kyoraku in terms of power -- that said, as much as I love, "Mr. Suave" himself..no way he's beating Urahara one-on-one. Kenpachi is more on his level. Ukitake and Kyoraku are above them.

[NLee]

Urahara hands down. He was a Captain and a genius scientist even before Byakuya was in the Gotei 13. It's not like he got any weaker.

[Rand al'Thor]

U rahara low difficulty ..His intellect is unsurpassed uses high level kidos without incantations and easily managed to fight the espadas..so urahara...

[dbzfreak]

Jeez, I thought at least someone would say Byakuya. Urahara may win but I wouldn't say low difficulty, Byakuya has Shukei, a totally OP technique.

[Narutohokage7]

Jeez, I thought at least someone would say Byakuya. Urahara may win but I wouldn't say low difficulty, Byakuya has Shukei, a totally OP technique.

Kisuke would expect it and think of a way round it, he is like Itachi and Shikamaru combined

[kotoamatsukami]

U rahara low difficulty ..His intellect is unsurpassed uses high level kidos without incantations and easily managed to fight the espadas..so urahara...

low diff lol never in anybodys life can beat byakuya easy wat byakuya is smart as well an plus he has white imperial blade witch he probly masterd by now so i pick byakuya to win this or tie....beat up the espadas easy u mean the weakest 1 at the time yammy he earns no points 4 dat.

[kotoamatsukami]

Kisuke would expect it and think of a way round it, he is like Itachi and Shikamaru combined

lol would expect it u must be a kiskue fan

[Rand al'Thor]

lol..listen to you speaking...kisuke urahara is one of the oldest capt after kyoraku unohana and ukitake..his genius is unsurpassed and he is a master of zanjutsu technique..byakuya has white imperial blade..big deal...urahara was capt before byakuya was even in the gotei 13..and we know older a shinigami is the more powerful is..even aizen admitted if not for the hogyoku uraharas prowess would have defeated him..byakuya is powerful yes..but no hes not on uraharas lvl..

[kotoamatsukami]

lol..listen to you speaking...kisuke urahara is one of the oldest capt after kyoraku unohana and ukitake..his genius is unsurpassed and he is a master of zanjutsu technique..byakuya has white imperial blade..big deal...urahara was capt before byakuya was even in the gotei 13..and we know older a shinigami is the more powerful is..even aizen admitted if not for the hogyoku uraharas prowess would have defeated him..byakuya is powerful yes..but no hes not on uraharas lvl..

the older the captain the stronger well aizen proves that wrong gin does as well its about wat type of sword u have an wat it can do byakuya an kenpachi can most likely beat urahara well idk bout kenpachi he to reckless...aizen said his powers would have killed him yes kno y he got caught by urahara kido cuz he did not care if he was hit or not if he did not have that thing in his chest he would have never let urahara get close.

u will see y byakuya>urahara in this last arc

[Flame Alchemist]

the older the captain the stronger well aizen proves that wrong gin does as well its about wat type of sword u have an wat it can do byakuya an kenpachi can most likely beat urahara well idk bout kenpachi he to reckless...aizen said his powers would have killed him yes kno y he got caught by urahara kido cuz he did not care if he was hit or not if he did not have that thing in his chest he would have never let urahara get close.

u will see y byakuya>urahara in this last arc

lol would expect it u must be a kiskue fan

look who's talking.

we didn't even see urahara's bankai. and even without his bankai I dare say he's stronger than byakuya. with bankai it would be overkill

byakuya's level is among kenpachi, hitsugaya and hitsugaya.
while urahara is on the level of ukitake, kyouraku, unohana.

too much difference

[kotoamatsukami]

look who's talking.

we didn't even see urahara's bankai. and even without his bankai I dare say he's stronger than byakuya. with bankai it would be overkill

byakuya's level is among kenpachi, hitsugaya and hitsugaya.
while urahara is on the level of ukitake, kyouraku, unohana.

too much difference

if urahara fight against byakuya only use his shikai he will be killed so probly would ukitake as well sames goes 4 the rest u said..so u think ukitake can beat kenpachi useing shikai i dout that urahara cant beat kenpachi ether useing just shikai everytime urahara fight he fights somebody thats weak.

[NLee]

if urahara fight against byakuya only use his shikai he will be killed so probly would ukitake as well sames goes 4 the rest u said..so u think ukitake can beat kenpachi useing shikai i dout that urahara cant beat kenpachi ether useing just shikai everytime urahara fight he fights somebody thats weak.

It should be quite obvious that Urahara would win.

Ukitake and Kyoraku are on the same level. Kyoraku managed to beat Stark with only his Shikai while Kenpachi got pushed to the edge against the #5 Nnoitra. So yes, I do think Ukitake (as well as the rest of the veterans) could take Kenpachi, Hitsugaya, or Byakuya with just their Shikai.

Urahara is the smartest person in the entire Bleach manga. Just by watching Yammy fire his Bala he was able to learn all about it and completely negate it. Even if he just has his Shikai, just by his observations alone he could probably deduce Byakuya's safe zone and exploit it.




Not all Captains are (give or take) the same level. Obviously someone like Hitsugaya isn't on the same level as Yamamoto. Hence, there are different tiers of Captains.

More or less, the tiers go something along the lines of:
-Yamamoto, Unohana, Kyoraku, and Ukitake
-3 Vizard Captains
-Hitsugaya, Byakuya, Kenpachi
-The rest

Both Byakuya and Urahara are strong, but they're on different levels. Urahara is somewhere around the Veteran's or Vizard's caliber.

[Flame Alchemist]

It should be quite obvious that Urahara would win.

Ukitake and Kyoraku are on the same level. Kyoraku managed to beat Stark with only his Shikai while Kenpachi got pushed to the edge against the #5 Nnoitra. So yes, I do think Ukitake (as well as the rest of the veterans) could take Kenpachi, Hitsugaya, or Byakuya with just their Shikai.

Urahara is the smartest person in the entire Bleach manga. Just by watching Yammy fire his Bala he was able to learn all about it and completely negate it. Even if he just has his Shikai, just by his observations alone he could probably deduce Byakuya's safe zone and exploit it.




Not all Captains are (give or take) the same level. Obviously someone like Hitsugaya isn't on the same level as Yamamoto. Hence, there are different tiers of Captains.

More or less, the tiers go something alone the lines of:
-Yamamoto, Unohana, Kyoraku, and Ukitake
-3 Vizard Captains
-Hitsugaya, Byakuya, Kenpachi
-The rest

Both Byakuya and Urahara are strong, but they're on different levels. Urahara is somewhere around the Veteran's or Vizard's caliber.

well you just said what I was going to say and even more
this reminded me the thread we tried to rate the characters

[palmer]

urahara wins

[kotoamatsukami]

It should be quite obvious that Urahara would win.

Ukitake and Kyoraku are on the same level. Kyoraku managed to beat Stark with only his Shikai while Kenpachi got pushed to the edge against the #5 Nnoitra. So yes, I do think Ukitake (as well as the rest of the veterans) could take Kenpachi, Hitsugaya, or Byakuya with just their Shikai.

Urahara is the smartest person in the entire Bleach manga. Just by watching Yammy fire his Bala he was able to learn all about it and completely negate it. Even if he just has his Shikai, just by his observations alone he could probably deduce Byakuya's safe zone and exploit it.




Not all Captains are (give or take) the same level. Obviously someone like Hitsugaya isn't on the same level as Yamamoto. Hence, there are different tiers of Captains.

More or less, the tiers go something along the lines of:
-Yamamoto, Unohana, Kyoraku, and Ukitake
-3 Vizard Captains
-Hitsugaya, Byakuya, Kenpachi
-The rest

Both Byakuya and Urahara are strong, but they're on different levels. Urahara is somewhere around the Veteran's or Vizard's caliber.

First off stark is a nobody if kyraku fought noritra can kyraku cut noritra skin noritra was no wer near kenpachi power once his eye patch came off noritra just had more arms that's the only thing that kept him in the fight noritra was really no match...the only reason y kyraku was able to beat stark wit just his shikai was becuz stark switch to those wolves if he would have stayed wit his cero gun he would hav forced kyraku to go bankai.....lol urahara can beat byakuya wit just his shikai lol like byakuya Dat weak byakuya is smart also will not just beat him useing ur shikai he is not stark. every captain besides Yamamoto will have to go bankai in order to beat byakuya shinji might be able to beat him useing shikai idk.

[NLee]

First off stark is a nobody if kyraku fought noritra can kyraku cut noritra skin

Yes, he could.

noritra was no wer near kenpachi power once his eye patch came off noritra just had more arms that's the only thing that kept him in the fight noritra was really no match...

Is that why Nnoitra forced Kenpachi to use both arms?
Kenpachi himself admitted he'd die if he didn't use full force:
http://www.mangapanda.com/94-765-16/...apter-311.html
http://www.mangapanda.com/94-765-17/...apter-311.html

Stop downplaying Nnoitra.

the only reason y kyraku was able to beat stark wit just his shikai was becuz stark switch to those wolves if he would have stayed wit his cero gun he would hav forced kyraku to go bankai.....lol

His wolves are a part of his arsenal. That's a poor argument if you're using his wolves as an excuse.

urahara can beat byakuya wit just his shikai lol like byakuya Dat weak byakuya is smart also will not just beat him useing ur shikai he is not stark. every captain besides Yamamoto will have to go bankai in order to beat byakuya shinji might be able to beat him useing shikai idk.

I'm not even going to try to interpret this because that'd be a waste of my time.



You do realize that your entire post was in two sentences, right? Four at best but even that's debatable. Some advice, whether you're a native English speaker or not, learn you grammar and spell words correctly. No one's going to bother reading walls of texts that don't make sense. Even I almost quit reading half way into your reply.

[kotoamatsukami]

Yes, he could.


Is that why Nnoitra forced Kenpachi to use both arms?
Kenpachi himself admitted he'd die if he didn't use full force:
http://www.mangapanda.com/94-765-16/...apter-311.html
http://www.mangapanda.com/94-765-17/...apter-311.html

Stop downplaying Nnoitra.


His wolves are a part of his arsenal. That's a poor argument if you're using his wolves as an excuse.


I'm not even going to try to interpret this because that'd be a waste of my time.



You do realize that your entire post was in two sentences, right? Four at best but even that's debatable. Some advice, whether you're a native English speaker or not, learn you grammar and spell words correctly. No one's going to bother reading walls of texts that don't make sense. Even I almost quit reading half way into your reply.

like i said the only reason noritra took kenpachi that far was becuz he had more arms power wise he was no match kenpachi just fights reckless he dont care bout being cut but if he gets serious he will show u that ur no match 4 him.

wat makes u so sure kyraku can cut noritra skin there is no proof kenpachi physical power is greater than any captain besides yamamoto.

an yea kyraku was going to use bankai cuz there wer to many ceros comeing his way but once he switch to the wolves it made it easier for kyraku to get close to him tell me im lying?

about ur last thing just shut up an read it unless its to hard 4 ur little brain to get.

[home]

urahara of course, id like to see byakuya fight on par with aizen using just his shikai

[home]

like i said the only reason noritra took kenpachi that far was becuz he had more arms power wise he was no match kenpachi just fights reckless he dont care bout being cut but if he gets serious he will show u that ur no match 4 him.

wat makes u so sure kyraku can cut noritra skin there is no proof kenpachi physical power is greater than any captain besides yamamoto.

an yea kyraku was going to use bankai cuz there wer to many ceros comeing his way but once he switch to the wolves it made it easier for kyraku to get close to him tell me im lying?

about ur last thing just shut up an read it unless its to hard 4 ur little brain to get.

mate, do you know what school is?

[NLee]

like i said the only reason noritra took kenpachi that far was becuz he had more arms power wise he was no match kenpachi just fights reckless he dont care bout being cut but if he gets serious he will show u that ur no match 4 him.

I don't see how you can be so ignorant. The definition of an Arrancar's Resurrecion is to release of their original Hollow powers - it makes them stronger. This is obvious.

Nnoitra pushed Kenpachi on the back of his heels. That's all I'm going to say. If this still doesn't register Nnoitra's strength for you then you're hopeless.

I don't even know why we're talking about Nnoitra because he has nothing to do with this topic. I brought him up in a simple example to make a direct correlation between the Espada rankings, Kenpachi, and Stark. If you don't see the kindergarten logic behind that then you're beyond hope.

wat makes u so sure kyraku can cut noritra skin there is no proof kenpachi physical power is greater than any captain besides yamamoto.

Kenpachi is a mediocre Captain at best. With the former Vizard Captains returning to their divisions it readjusts the power scales in the Gotei 13.

The fact that you're basically trying to say that Kenpachi is the second strongest Captain makes me wonder if you even read the manga.

This alone should be enough to invalidate everything you've said thus far.

an yea kyraku was going to use bankai cuz there wer to many ceros comeing his way but once he switch to the wolves it made it easier for kyraku to get close to him tell me im lying?

Why does it sound like you're trying to downplay Stark's Cero Metralleta?

So Kyoraku contemplating whether or not to use his Bankai against Stark's, the Primera Espada, Cero Metralleta makes him weak? You're full of it.

You do realize that Kyoraku was never at the end of his leash, right? At no point was he totally backed up against the wall by Stark. He was shot once when Ukitake was ambushed by Wonderweis. Nonetheless, Kyoraku still put up an even fight.

Not to mention Stark juggled a total of 4 Captains (2 Veterans, and 2 Vizards) over the course of the fight. That is how powerful Stark was. Surprise, Kyoraku beat him.

about ur last thing just shut up an read it unless its to hard 4 ur little brain to get.

I call you out for not knowing a shred of grammar and misspelling half the words in your post and you have the nerve to flame me for it? okay

How about you go back to 2nd grade and re-learn your writing skills instead of getting pissed off at me for your shortcomings

[lubricati0n]

like i said the only reason noritra took kenpachi that far was becuz he had more arms power wise he was no match kenpachi just fights reckless he dont care bout being cut but if he gets serious he will show u that ur no match 4 him.

wat makes u so sure kyraku can cut noritra skin there is no proof kenpachi physical power is greater than any captain besides yamamoto.

an yea kyraku was going to use bankai cuz there wer to many ceros comeing his way but once he switch to the wolves it made it easier for kyraku to get close to him tell me im lying?

about ur last thing just shut up an read it unless its to hard 4 ur little brain to get.

Someone is obviously getting mad. Don't overwork your pea sized brain, son.