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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

    Quote Originally Posted by kotoamatsukami View Post
    Urahara is smarter no Dout in my mind about that.

    tell me this y do u need to be smart if u already kno Wat the person is going to do u already kno how they will attack wats the point in needing to be smart?
    Please elaborate. I don't understand what u are trying to say.
    Secondly urahara has shown that he had the ability to discern opponents attacks (when he fought yami) this same ability can be put into play against Byakuya, since urahara is smarter than Tsukishima and he discerned Byakuya's attacks. even u testified to this . End result result, urahara finds the weakness in his attacks binds him using kido or kido+zanpaktou like he did against Aizen, sky canon gg
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

    Urahara-san would beat kuchiki
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

    Quote Originally Posted by iMicLykTyson View Post
    Please elaborate. I don't understand what u are trying to say.
    Secondly urahara has shown that he had the ability to discern opponents attacks (when he fought yami) this same ability can be put into play against Byakuya, since urahara is smarter than Tsukishima and he discerned Byakuya's attacks. even u testified to this . End result result, urahara finds the weakness in his attacks binds him using kido or kido+zanpaktou like he did against Aizen, sky canon gg
    im saying theres no need to have to think of plans an stuff an that matter if u already kno wat the other person is going to do. tsukishima has to do no planing or thinking just attack cuz he learnd byakuya attack patterns an everything about his sword in like 5 sec cuz of he fullbring ability wer as it would take urahara way longer to do... wat u think urahara really going to find out about the no danger zone in 5 sec lol yea right. urahara will have to sit threw a fight way longer to figure out byakuya hole attack pattern.

    dont u ever i mean ever put byakuya an yammy on the same terms in a fight against anybody that weak ass bala means nonthing to senbonzakura he wont just cancel out byakuya petals thats never going to happen never.
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

    Quote Originally Posted by kotoamatsukami View Post
    im saying theres no need to have to think of plans an stuff an that matter if u already kno wat the other person is going to do. tsukishima has to do no planing or thinking just attack cuz he learnd byakuya attack patterns an everything about his sword in like 5 sec cuz of he fullbring ability wer as it would take urahara way longer to do... wat u think urahara really going to find out about the no danger zone in 5 sec lol yea right. urahara will have to sit threw a fight way longer to figure out byakuya hole attack pattern.

    dont u ever i mean ever put byakuya an yammy on the same terms in a fight against anybody that weak ass bala means nonthing to senbonzakura he wont just cancel out byakuya petals thats never going to happen never.
    i still don;t understand you
    but by what u said u are implying that tsukishima is smarter.

    lmao so ur saying that senbonsakura is faster than an attack that moves at the speed of sound :rofl: which Urahara succeeded in analyzing in mere seconds.
     
         
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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

    Quote Originally Posted by iMicLykTyson View Post
    i still don;t understand you
    but by what u said u are implying that tsukishima is smarter.

    lmao so ur saying that senbonsakura is faster than an attack that moves at the speed of sound :rofl: which Urahara succeeded in analyzing in mere seconds.
    im not saying tsukishima is smarter im saying his fullbring ability let's him kno evrything as soon as he cuts you anything he cuts for that matter an he cut byakuya petals as soon as their battle started im saying it would take urahara much more time to figure out senbonzakura hole attack pattern.

    senbonzakura has gotten even faster tsukishima said that his self, its way more powerful than the bala aswell an its much harder to stop an that not even the end of byakuya's power.

    the reason he was abel to figure out that bala tec so fast was becuz its like a cero he has seen a million ceros in his life witch made it quicker to analyse u cant compare such a weak an simple tec to senbonzakura.
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

    Quote Originally Posted by kotoamatsukami View Post
    im not saying tsukishima is smarter im saying his fullbring ability let's him kno evrything as soon as he cuts you anything he cuts for that matter an he cut byakuya petals as soon as their battle started im saying it would take urahara much more time to figure out senbonzakura hole attack pattern.

    senbonzakura has gotten even faster tsukishima said that his self, its way more powerful than the bala aswell an its much harder to stop an that not even the end of byakuya's power.

    the reason he was abel to figure out that bala tec so fast was becuz its like a cero he has seen a million ceros in his life witch made it quicker to analyse u cant compare such a weak an simple tec to senbonzakura.
    lol when he fought yami was the first time he saw bala, and he analyzed it what makes senbonsakura any different ? Both senbonsaku and bala require hand movement which is how Urahara analyzed bala same would happen with senbonsakura unless you have an explanation to prove otherwise.

    I will give you a point because you said that he cut byakuya's petals and found out his weakness.

    But this is Urahara we are talking about, his feats in terms of analyzing things are off the charts, frankly i don't see anything byakuya can do that would kill urahara, he has inflatable gigai that was even able to fool aizen and yami what makes byakuya any different.

    In terms of Speed Urahara is faster, he was able to keep up with yoruichi while Byakuya could not keep up with yoruichi .

    In terms of power, uraha has a technique similar ichigo's getsuga tenshou and can even change the direction and shape of the attack.

    Kido: urahara is better, pretty self explanatory (sky canon etc)

    Even just based on feats Urahara > Byakuya.
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

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    lol when he fought yami was the first time he saw bala, and he analyzed it what makes senbonsakura any different ? Both senbonsaku and bala require hand movement which is how Urahara analyzed bala same would happen with senbonsakura unless you have an explanation to prove otherwise.

    I will give you a point because you said that he cut byakuya's petals and found out his weakness.

    But this is Urahara we are talking about, his feats in terms of analyzing things are off the charts, frankly i don't see anything byakuya can do that would kill urahara, he has inflatable gigai that was even able to fool aizen and yami what makes byakuya any different.

    In terms of Speed Urahara is faster, he was able to keep up with yoruichi while Byakuya could not keep up with yoruichi .

    In terms of power, uraha has a technique similar ichigo's getsuga tenshou and can even change the direction and shape of the attack.

    Kido: urahara is better, pretty self explanatory (sky canon etc)

    Even just based on feats Urahara > Byakuya.
    it will be much harder to negate or dodge byakuya petals then it is to dodge a straight on comeing blast or to negate a straight on comeing blast..urahara even said it was a bit hard to do that to the bala now if that was byakuya petals it would be 10 times harder to do.

    u think yoroichi is faster than him cuz she got the last dodge come on now they wer even if u ask me. we talking bout the strongest member to ever come from the kuchiki clan.

    as for kido bykuya knos about all of them most likely an will not let himself be hit by them.
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

    Quote Originally Posted by kotoamatsukami View Post
    it will be much harder to negate or dodge byakuya petals then it is to dodge a straight on comeing blast or to negate a straight on comeing blast..urahara even said it was a bit hard to do that to the bala now if that was byakuya petals it would be 10 times harder to do.


    u think yoroichi is faster than him cuz she got the last dodge come on now they wer even if u ask me. we talking bout the strongest member to ever come from the kuchiki clan.

    as for kido bykuya knos about all of them most likely an will not let himself be hit by them.
    The only reason why it was hard to do was because of the speed.
    As i said before he can analyze his hand movements and make not of the intervals and discern the zero zone or whatever you call it.

    1st bold: lol u think Byakuya is faster than yoruichi, i suggest you watch the anime again. Yoruichi's speed feats > byakuya's. She was captain of the special forces you need to be really fast to become the captain.

    2nd bold: Urahara knows more about kido and Byakuya doesn't know all the kidos lol.
     
         
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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

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    The only reason why it was hard to do was because of the speed.
    As i said before he can analyze his hand movements and make not of the intervals and discern the zero zone or whatever you call it.

    1st bold: lol u think Byakuya is faster than yoruichi, i suggest you watch the anime again. Yoruichi's speed feats > byakuya's. She was captain of the special forces you need to be really fast to become the captain.

    2nd bold: Urahara knows more about kido and Byakuya doesn't know all the kidos lol.
    the only way u can find the no damage zone is to get close enough to byakuya to notice the petals r not protecting him thats not really a weakness to him no way.

    i like yoroichi but is she really that fast an how did she become captian anyway who knos...but i dont kno if she is faster than byakuya all he talks about is his speed hes fast an hes still able to move fast on 1 leg as seen fighting the espada.

    byakuya been alive for to long to not kno about all kido chants an stuff like dat.
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

    Have to say kotoamatsukami that you are certainly passionate in defending Byakuya but Urahara will still win.

    Your main argument seems to be based on Urahara not learning Byakuya's attack and defence pattern quickly enough but Urahara is a researcher at heart. He no doubt already knows this and byakuya's zanpactou abilities are no real secret to anyone anyway so there is no argument in that.

    Additionally, Byakuya is skilled in Kido and probably knows at least nearly the first hundred but Urahara's kido skills are far superior using most without incantations and using one after another with little effort.

    In terms of speed, Urahara was part of Second division which specialises in speed and agility and can match Yourichi's which Byakuya can't.

    On top of this, Urahara is much older and therefore very experienced unlike Byakuya and is a genius to boot.

    Urahara wins hands down.
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

    Quote Originally Posted by kotoamatsukami View Post
    Urahara is smarter no Dout in my mind about that.

    tell me this y do u need to be smart if u already kno Wat the person is going to do u already kno how they will attack wats the point in needing to be smart?
    You're stupid.
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

    Wow heated argument anyway I'd say Urahara takes this,

    Urahara would certainly know more about Byakuya's Zanpaktou than Byakuya would know about Urahara's.

    Also Urahara would also know how to counter Byakuya's abilities like Yourichi did since she knew exactly how to stop Byakuya from releasing his Shikai (Wrapping bandages around the blade).

    You can't really judge a battle like this with just arguing over the releasing of the Zanpaktou if that was the case would that mean Isshin is stronger than Urahara since he was able to keep up with Aizen without Shikai while Urahara couldn't.no.

    Both Byakuya and Urahara are top notch fighters but Urahara has far more resources than Byakuya (portible Gigai etc).

    I can guess Kotoamatsukami your favorite character is Byakuya that's great but don't let it effect your judgement it makes you seem slightly fanboyish...
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

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    You're stupid.
    Yep just like u if u think urahara will beat byakuya.
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

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    Wow heated argument anyway I'd say Urahara takes this,

    Urahara would certainly know more about Byakuya's Zanpaktou than Byakuya would know about Urahara's.

    Also Urahara would also know how to counter Byakuya's abilities like Yourichi did since she knew exactly how to stop Byakuya from releasing his Shikai (Wrapping bandages around the blade).

    You can't really judge a battle like this with just arguing over the releasing of the Zanpaktou if that was the case would that mean Isshin is stronger than Urahara since he was able to keep up with Aizen without Shikai while Urahara couldn't.no.

    Both Byakuya and Urahara are top notch fighters but Urahara has far more resources than Byakuya (portible Gigai etc).

    I can guess Kotoamatsukami your favorite character is Byakuya that's great but don't let it effect your judgement it makes you seem slightly fanboyish...

    urahara kno more about byakuya sword than byakuya knos about his I Dout it big time.Sence he never really seen byakuya fight same goes for byakuya.

    Yoroichi has trained with byakuya for a while an seen wat he can do unlike urahara an her wrapping that bandage around his sword did not stop his shikai he stopped it hiself cuz some one interfered an he wanted to see who it was.

    That gigai ain't nonthing this ain't yam my he's fighting.

    Last thing u said made no sence when isshin first got there aizen was not as strong as when urahara arrived I believe he was playing around wit isshin in the first place.
     
         
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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

    Quote Originally Posted by kotoamatsukami View Post
    urahara kno more about byakuya sword than byakuya knos about his I Dout it big time.Sence he never really seen byakuya fight same goes for byakuya.

    Yoroichi has trained with byakuya for a while an seen wat he can do unlike urahara an her wrapping that bandage around his sword did not stop his shikai he stopped it hiself cuz some one interfered an he wanted to see who it was.

    That gigai ain't nonthing this ain't yam my he's fighting.

    Last thing u said made no sence when isshin first got there aizen was not as strong as when urahara arrived I believe he was playing around wit isshin in the first place.
    Yoruichi never trained with Byakuya. She teased him and toyed with him. What makes you think Byakuya had his Bankai back then? You do nothing but generate completely ridiculous assumptions. Nothing you use in your arguments have any merit at all.


    Quote Originally Posted by kotoamatsukami View Post
    Yep just like u if u think urahara will beat byakuya.
    Yup, I'm the stupid one because I say Urahara defeats Byakuya.

    You can say what you want dunce because it doesn't change anything.
    Urahara and Yoruichi are on the same level as the Vizards and the Veterans minus Yama and Uno.
    Byakuya is an average tier Captain in comaprison along with Kenpachi and Hitsugaya.
     
         
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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

    Quote Originally Posted by kotoamatsukami View Post
    urahara kno more about byakuya sword than byakuya knos about his I Dout it big time.Sence he never really seen byakuya fight same goes for byakuya.

    Yoroichi has trained with byakuya for a while an seen wat he can do unlike urahara an her wrapping that bandage around his sword did not stop his shikai he stopped it hiself cuz some one interfered an he wanted to see who it was.

    That gigai ain't nonthing this ain't yam my he's fighting.

    Last thing u said made no sence when isshin first got there aizen was not as strong as when urahara arrived I believe he was playing around wit isshin in the first place.
    So your saying Byakuya knows more about Urahara's Zanpaktou even though he had his before Byakuya's also I think Urahara will have seen Byakuya battle since he is a scientist and would of found a way to see battles Byakuya has or Yourichi would have informed him.

    her wrapping that bandage around his sword did not stop his shikai he stopped it hiself cuz some one interfered an he wanted to see who it was.

    ^^^^^^^^

    That is never confirmed unless you can prove to me that was the reason then I'm not going to really believe you.

    Also the Gigai was able to fool Aizen so why would it not be able to fool Byakuya who is no where near as smart as Aizen.

    The last comment was more of a point TBH.
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

    urahara mid diff even with shikai, hes to fast, strong, smart and good with swords and kido for byakuya
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

    Quote Originally Posted by NLee View Post
    Yoruichi never trained with Byakuya. She teased him and toyed with him. What makes you think Byakuya had his Bankai back then? You do nothing but generate completely ridiculous assumptions. Nothing you use in your arguments have any merit at all.




    Yup, I'm the stupid one because I say Urahara defeats Byakuya.

    You can say what you want dunce because it doesn't change anything.
    Urahara and Yoruichi are on the same level as the Vizards and the Veterans minus Yama and Uno.
    Byakuya is an average tier Captain in comaprison along with Kenpachi and Hitsugaya.
    Yoroichi never trained him so wer do u think he learns the blac ops step move from O yea that's right yoroichi.

    Yoroichi an urahara is on the same level I think not urahara is stronger than her just letting u kno that she needs to train more...

    First off u think byakuya an kenpachi r avarege level captians there stronger than Wat u think ...byakuya sword has 4 levels an most likely gotten stronger sence the aizen arc..an as for kenpachi he don't even kno his sword name well he probly do at the monent so yea there not ur avarege level captains.

    There no way to tell who will win really cuz we have not seen their full power but if I had to pick a winner I will say byakuya untill urahara shows me more
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

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    urahara mid diff even with shikai, hes to fast, strong, smart and good with swords and kido for byakuya
    He's not as fast as ichigo so yea he's not fast enough.
     
         

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    Re: Byakuya vs Urahara

    Urahara is faster than Byakuya.
     
         

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