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    Right under their noses!

    Hopefully Kishi will answer this eventually, but i think he just forgot about it.

    Why hasn't anyone in Konoha ever consider reading from the forbidden scroll?

    The 4th prohibited anyone from reading from the scroll.
    But don't you think there might be some interesting jutsus or even some insights that could help Konoha right now?

    - info on the kyuubis
    - info on Naruto's seal

    I mean, Kage Bunshin which is Naruto's signature move doesn't seem like something that should be prohibited.

    They should just give it to Naruto...LOL...although I don't think he has enough brain power to fully understand it's potential.

    Lastly, if Orochimaru wanted to learn all jutsus in the world...why the hell didn't he start by stealing the book in the first place? he definetely had the chance many times.

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    Re: Right under their noses!

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha Itachi 09 View Post
    Hopefully Kishi will answer this eventually, but i think he just forgot about it.

    Why hasn't anyone in Konoha ever consider reading from the forbidden scroll?

    The 4th prohibited anyone from reading from the scroll.
    But don't you think there might be some interesting jutsus or even some insights that could help Konoha right now?

    - info on the kyuubis
    - info on Naruto's seal

    I mean, Kage Bunshin which is Naruto's signature move doesn't seem like something that should be prohibited.

    They should just give it to Naruto...LOL...although I don't think he has enough brain power to fully understand it's potential.

    Lastly, if Orochimaru wanted to learn all jutsus in the world...why the hell didn't he start by stealing the book in the first place? he definetely had the chance many times.

    Share your thoughts.

    Peace.
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    Re: Right under their noses!

    Naruto is a special case with the kage bunshins, but that jutsu is forbidden because of the chance that it may deplete your chakra by half and spread it evenly between the clone...But it's weird how almost all the skilled shinobi use it often.

    And orochimaru probably did have a look, but all the jutsu in that also are forbidden for reasons. I think it included info which can be dangerous in the hands of shinobi not from konoha.
     
         

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    Re: Right under their noses!

    they are not all jutsu in that book but mostly are and they are not for every shinobi cuz they are diffrent elements in book even if naruto has that book he couldnt use all jutsu cuz u need to have all elements to use them and naruto is for now wind only so he could use probably wind jutsus only from book...and yeah they are mostly hidding from another shinobis, but its not that secret hokage can use it....
     
         

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    Re: Right under their noses!

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha Itachi 09 View Post
    Hopefully Kishi will answer this eventually, but i think he just forgot about it.

    Why hasn't anyone in Konoha ever consider reading from the forbidden scroll?

    The 4th prohibited anyone from reading from the scroll.
    But don't you think there might be some interesting jutsus or even some insights that could help Konoha right now?

    - info on the kyuubis
    - info on Naruto's seal

    I mean, Kage Bunshin which is Naruto's signature move doesn't seem like something that should be prohibited.

    They should just give it to Naruto...LOL...although I don't think he has enough brain power to fully understand it's potential.

    Lastly, if Orochimaru wanted to learn all jutsus in the world...why the hell didn't he start by stealing the book in the first place? he definetely had the chance many times.

    Share your thoughts.

    Peace.
    The form of Kage Bunshin in the scroll is Tajuu Kage Bunshin, which would kill a normal person.
     
         

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    Re: Right under their noses!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fastlikesnail View Post
    The form of Kage Bunshin in the scroll is Tajuu Kage Bunshin, which would kill a normal person.
    wow I had no idea, that is so awesome
     
         

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    Re: Right under their noses!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fastlikesnail View Post
    The form of Kage Bunshin in the scroll is Tajuu Kage Bunshin, which would kill a normal person.
    this explains a lot..
     
         

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    Re: Right under their noses!

    R u sure...
    So would it mean naruto learned the larger scale version before the small scale one.
     
         

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    Re: Right under their noses!

    Yes, what Fastlikesnail said is correct.. Multi Shadow Clone jutsu(Taju Kage bunshin no jutsu) will kill normal person. It involves splitting your chakra in equal parts. Number of clones + real body=Parts of chakra. So people with less chakra will not be handle this jutsu, dats where naruto with his own huge amount of chakra plus kyubi's unlimited chakra can pull this jutsu with ease.
    Since Kage Bunshin jutsu is dangerous for user it was prohibited and was in forbidden scroll.
    Talking about other jutsus, dere was a filler episode made in Shippuden where Oro tried to steal Forbidden scroll through Mizuki......
     
         

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    Re: Right under their noses!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fastlikesnail View Post
    The form of Kage Bunshin in the scroll is Tajuu Kage Bunshin, which would kill a normal person.
    u, no. Well, if you disagree with me disagreeing then please offer a manga page. The scroll offers kage bunshin as a special technique. Naruto made it to Tajuu Kage Bunshin.
     
         

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    Re: Right under their noses!

    Quote Originally Posted by SSJ4Naruto View Post
    Yes, what Fastlikesnail said is correct.. Multi Shadow Clone jutsu(Taju Kage bunshin no jutsu) will kill normal person. It involves splitting your chakra in equal parts. Number of clones + real body=Parts of chakra. So people with less chakra will not be handle this jutsu, dats where naruto with his own huge amount of chakra plus kyubi's unlimited chakra can pull this jutsu with ease.
    Since Kage Bunshin jutsu is dangerous for user it was prohibited and was in forbidden scroll.
    Talking about other jutsus, dere was a filler episode made in Shippuden where Oro tried to steal Forbidden scroll through Mizuki......
    Well, it wasn't a filler.
    It was in the manga.
    And even if he failed, he could have gotten it easily afterwards if he wanted.
    Through Kabuto when they invaded Konoha for instance.
     
         

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    Re: Right under their noses!

    Quote Originally Posted by chickmashine View Post
    u, no. Well, if you disagree with me disagreeing then please offer a manga page. The scroll offers kage bunshin as a special technique. Naruto made it to Tajuu Kage Bunshin.
    Agreed.
    Naruto only made the Tajuu Kage Bunshin because his emotions got pushed to the limit and he had no chakra control.

    Still, don't you all think they could gain from peeking right now into that book?

    I know that's the first thing I would do if I knew we were gonna be up against strong oponents.

    Peace.
     
         

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    Re: Right under their noses!

    Quote Originally Posted by chickmashine View Post
    u, no. Well, if you disagree with me disagreeing then please offer a manga page. The scroll offers kage bunshin as a special technique. Naruto made it to Tajuu Kage Bunshin.
    It doesn't make sense that they would seal plain old Kage Bunshin. He does say Kage Bunshin in the first chapter, and not Tajuu Kage Bunshin, but I still think it was Tajuu.

    I know wikis aren't reliable sources, but still Multiple Shadow Clone Technique - Naruto Wiki - Narutopedia
     
         

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    Re: Right under their noses!

    Well it is a forbbiden scroll becuase the jutsus in their are kinjutsus so it would kill the user if they used it. Naruto reading it was an excpetion. I think the diffrence was that he learned to make large amounts of clones. He's the only one who can do that because of his mass amounts of chakra.
     
         

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    Re: Right under their noses!

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha Itachi 09 View Post
    Hopefully Kishi will answer this eventually, but i think he just forgot about it.

    Why hasn't anyone in Konoha ever consider reading from the forbidden scroll?

    The 4th prohibited anyone from reading from the scroll.
    But don't you think there might be some interesting jutsus or even some insights that could help Konoha right now?

    - info on the kyuubis
    - info on Naruto's seal

    I mean, Kage Bunshin which is Naruto's signature move doesn't seem like something that should be prohibited.

    They should just give it to Naruto...LOL...although I don't think he has enough brain power to fully understand it's potential.

    Lastly, if Orochimaru wanted to learn all jutsus in the world...why the hell didn't he start by stealing the book in the first place? he definetely had the chance many times.

    Share your thoughts.

    Peace.
    Where is the scroll now? Since Pain blew the heck out of Konoha, isn't there a possibility that it was destroyed? If that happened, does that mean that Naruto and Kakashi are the only two in the world who know kage bushin? Not to mention the knowledge that was lost if that happened.
     
         

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    Re: Right under their noses!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Deity View Post
    Where is the scroll now? Since Pain blew the heck out of Konoha, isn't there a possibility that it was destroyed? If that happened, does that mean that Naruto and Kakashi are the only two in the world who know kage bushin? Not to mention the knowledge that was lost if that happened.
    I don't think it's destroyed... and heaps of people know shadow clone justu.
     
         

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    Re: Right under their noses!

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha Itachi 09 View Post
    Well, it wasn't a filler.
    It was in the manga.
    And even if he failed, he could have gotten it easily afterwards if he wanted.
    Through Kabuto when they invaded Konoha for instance.
    It was in manga when,, I didn't talk about first few episodes where mizuki steal forbidden scroll through naruto, at that time we didn't know why mizuki did it, what we all thought was that he did it all for himself. But it was in filler episodes during dat arc of those two brothers and mizuki where mizuki said dat he did stealing for oro, in search of oro's power...
     
         

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    Re: Right under their noses!

    Quote Originally Posted by SSJ4Naruto View Post
    It was in manga when,, I didn't talk about first few episodes where mizuki steal forbidden scroll through naruto, at that time we didn't know why mizuki did it, what we all thought was that he did it all for himself. But it was in filler episodes during dat arc of those two brothers and mizuki where mizuki said dat he did stealing for oro, in search of oro's power...
    While the filler made a good connection to this event. Anime fillers don't count in Manga Naruto. I'm sure you knew and were just making a good point, which you did. I don't know that I believe Orochimaru would entrust such an important task to a chuunin chump though. I know this is kind of dumb to state, but how the hell does a non-genin get this thing, while Orochimaru could've taken it and left unnoticed?

    Also, I believe that when Naruto was fighting Neji, two chuunin watching (the two always together, one with tape on his nose I think), pointed out that after Naruto did his multi-shadow clone jutsu that it was a jounin level technique. The way Naruto uses shadow clones should be forbidden because everyone else would die from chakra depletion.
     
         

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    Re: Right under their noses!

    Quote Originally Posted by leafeater View Post
    While the filler made a good connection to this event. Anime fillers don't count in Manga Naruto. I'm sure you knew and were just making a good point, which you did. I don't know that I believe Orochimaru would entrust such an important task to a chuunin chump though. I know this is kind of dumb to state, but how the hell does a non-genin get this thing, while Orochimaru could've taken it and left unnoticed?

    Also, I believe that when Naruto was fighting Neji, two chuunin watching (the two always together, one with tape on his nose I think), pointed out that after Naruto did his multi-shadow clone jutsu that it was a jounin level technique. The way Naruto uses shadow clones should be forbidden because everyone else would die from chakra depletion.
    Yeah I was just making connection with topic of thread, dat filler arc carries no meaning.......
     
         

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    Re: Right under their noses!

    ok, this solved the question i have been pondering about the scroll.......
     
         

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