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    Re: Who will win in the finals maimi or OKC??

    i think Miami will because lebron goining to be mad hungry cuz his ring is within his grasp
     
         

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    Re: Who will win in the finals maimi or OKC??

    miami takes this in 5
    hey PUU, just like we thought right?
     
         

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    Re: Who will win in the finals maimi or OKC??

    I think it be Miami
     
         

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    Re: Who will win in the finals maimi or OKC??

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    If you are upset in the way he left then I can understand that because I didn’t like it either, it was a mistake which he acknowledged so people need to get over it. I just explained the teams that were in the hunt to get him, the heat and the bulls made the most sense. How can you say lebron going to the knicks would have been better (the heat have been to 2 straight NBA finals man)? Who’s to say that Lebron and Amare would have been scoring basically all of the knicks points? Like I said before he wanted a championship and knew it probably wasn’t gonna be in Cleveland so he left. That doesn’t mean he wasn’t good enough it meant that the team as a whole wasn’t good enough which was the owner’s fault.

    I think you need to relook at those stats, it says “These stats are based on a time from the start of the 2006 season until June 11, 2012(Including Playoffs)”. You want other clutch stats here you go http://www.libertyballers.com/2012/2...fs-4th-quarter. Do you see now, we can go back in forth with the clutch stats man… I can make it seem like Durant and Kobe (imo he is the most clutch player active) aren’t clutch but I won’t. You wanna know why, it’s because I know they are clutch (lebron too) and there are many stats out there that people display and ignore to better their argument.

    When Lebron scores it is a good thing, not a bad thing (look at last year’s finals and you’ll see why they need him to score). You can’t be upset that Lebron scores more than Dwade man. I don’t want to get into that batman/robin thing because tbh a true fan ignores that middle school type bullshit… I’m sure you are a true fan but you need to stop with that batman/robin crap that 10 year olds and stupid people use bruh, you’re better than that.

    True fans know their basketball [the teams throughout history and the players that played on them (especially the championship ones)], the casual fans who don’t know that much about basketball (NBA) say things like Jordan and Scottie were basically the only good ones on those bulls teams. To answer your Magic/Bird question: first off they had great/good players on their team (and HOFers) so there wouldn’t be a reason for them to join. Magic had players like kareem, worthy, etc… Bird had players like parrish, mchale, etc… You get what I’m saying, they had great players (and HOFers) helping them out so what’s your problem with Lebron, Dwade, and Bosh?

    Keep thinking he won’t be an all-time great, if he retires tomorrow he would be a first ballot HOFer. Fans that are not Lebron haters know he is while haters don’t. O’well

    That’s when most of his hating bandwagon began, haters will hate… the only thing lebron should do is worry about winning that title and I am cheering for him that he does so that haters will shut the f*ck up because there really will be nothing negative to say about him anymore. We will see
    I'm saying I don't like the fact that he went to the heat, it totally lopsided the NBA, put to shits multiple franchises, and quite honestly made the NBA a lot less competitive, as a fan I enjoy competitive basketball, so I was pissed off when lebron went to miami.

    I'm not pissed that lebron scores, I just pointed out that when lebron tries to totally take over the game, they usually lose. As far as the batman/robin stuff come in, I get what your saying, but end of the day that's how it is, lebron is playing in wades city and he will always take back seat to wade, he chose that when he went to miami.


    Of course they had great players, and HOFers, but that's exactly what makes them on that whole other level, casual fans only know them, not their supporting cast. It's what puts them on another level, james will never go into the same league as them because he will always be known as wades sidekick.

    I'm not denying the fact he will be an all time great, and I'm not denying the fact that he will be a first ballot HOFer, what I'm saying is he will never be able to reach the same peak as jordon, bird, and johnson, at the end of the day, even if he wins a championship, all he'll ever be is the guy playing in Dwades city, when people think of the great heat teams they'll think first of the team captain, which is wade, not lebron.

    I do believe the heat have this in the bag, unless OKC can turn it up and take game 5, then playing at home they may be able to pull it off, I'm rooting for james to lose, I wanna see what he'll say about the fan's lives if he loses a second time.
     
         

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    Re: Who will win in the finals maimi or OKC??

    Quote Originally Posted by kral View Post
    I hate labron like I hate the NBA. Superstar Calls. So stupid wen u can clearly see James foul ppl and not get called but him and Wade can not get touched and bam foul. So stupid and its y I can't cheer for the NBA. I wanna see basketball go back to real ball. With 2 step rule. No superstar bullshit. Also go back to calling shit straight n get better replay abilities. Also James is a great player but he is not the best!
    a hater with an excuse... that's new
    Quote Originally Posted by wutangforever View Post
    dont bother talking to this guy PUU just another lebron hater larry bird is my favorite player and even i know that if lebron wins this 2 or 3 championships he might surpass him we just need to enjoy lebron james cause we are watching one of the all time greats right now
    thanks man... btw larry legend was a beast:D
    Quote Originally Posted by SasukeUchiha910 View Post
    **** the miami heat, theyre all f!gs and i live in miami too
    sigh.

    oh so i guess you know the Miami Heat players personally right? how can you call them f@gs when you haven't spoken one word to any of them? Your post shows that you are another hater and a ***** on top of that because you wouldn't say that ignorant shit to any one of their faces.
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    miami takes this in 5
    hey PUU, just like we thought right?
    Yea i think they will end it tonight if not defintely game 6.
    Quote Originally Posted by ~Hasashi~ View Post
    I'm saying I don't like the fact that he went to the heat, it totally lopsided the NBA, put to shits multiple franchises, and quite honestly made the NBA a lot less competitive, as a fan I enjoy competitive basketball, so I was pissed off when lebron went to miami.

    I'm not pissed that lebron scores, I just pointed out that when lebron tries to totally take over the game, they usually lose. As far as the batman/robin stuff come in, I get what your saying, but end of the day that's how it is, lebron is playing in wades city and he will always take back seat to wade, he chose that when he went to miami.


    Of course they had great players, and HOFers, but that's exactly what makes them on that whole other level, casual fans only know them, not their supporting cast. It's what puts them on another level, james will never go into the same league as them because he will always be known as wades sidekick.

    I'm not denying the fact he will be an all time great, and I'm not denying the fact that he will be a first ballot HOFer, what I'm saying is he will never be able to reach the same peak as jordon, bird, and johnson, at the end of the day, even if he wins a championship, all he'll ever be is the guy playing in Dwades city, when people think of the great heat teams they'll think first of the team captain, which is wade, not lebron.

    I do believe the heat have this in the bag, unless OKC can turn it up and take game 5, then playing at home they may be able to pull it off, I'm rooting for james to lose, I wanna see what he'll say about the fan's lives if he loses a second time.

    It did not totally make the NBA lopsided, basically it has been almost the exact same teams in both conferences making it to the playoffs and most of the teams that struggled (pre Lebron decision) are still struggling since Lebron went to Miami. Yes teams like the Cavs became irrelevant overnight but that’s because they never really had great players other then Lebron, Miami ofc made a dramatic improvement and became a force in the East and the NBA but as a whole the NBA(Eastern Conference) basically have been the same with the exception of a few teams. Almost all of the teams that were championship contenders a couple years ago were considered the same heading into these years’ playoffs so the competiveness is still there. The East dating back to early 2000s have always been top heavy while the West have been for evened out, and from what I can tell it has been the same thing for the last 2 years, so again there shouldn’t be a problem with him going to Miami.

    I disagree with you again; most of Miami wins are from Lebron taking over(the whole game), I’m not dismissing Dwade, Bosh, and the supporting player’s importance but it has been proven if anybody on that team were to take over a game… Lebron would be the one to give the team the best chance to win because he can hurt you in more ways than Dwade(and his other teammates) can because he is the most complete player in the NBA. Just because he went to a team that already had a superstar on it doesn’t mean he took a back seat… putting up numbers and like 27.1PPG, 7.9RPG, 6.2APG, 53FG%, 1.8 SPG, 0.8BPG this regular season/ 30.5PPG, 9.7RPG, 5.3 APG, 50FG%, 1.9SPG, 0.6BPG this postseason/winning the MVP award/finished 3rd in the DPOY votes/All NBA first team/NBA All Defensive first team/allstar starter/ and if the Heat do win he would unquestionably be the NBA finals MVP is not taking a back seat bruh http://www.nba.com/playerfile/lebron...eer_stats.html.

    Correct me if I’m wrong but are you are saying just because they had great players on their team they(Bird/Magic) are in a class that Lebron can’t reach?What? Lebron is not Dwade’s sidekick and Dwade is not Lebron’s but it is unquestionably that Lebron is the better one. Most fans(except for haters) realize this and you need too also.

    . Let us say hypothetically that Lebron won’t be in the top 5 players of alltime but is considered by most fans to be top 10, does not being considered not in the top 5 make it a bad thing? At the end of his career if he is not in that company he would be just below it which is a great accomplishment which is not a bad thing man. No, when they look back on this team, Lebron will be the first name mentioned not Dwade.

    I lol’ed hard when he called out his haters after he lost last year because it was the truth, ya’ll(haters) were so consumed even obsessed with wanting him to fail and still do that it got to a point where it was disgusting and pathetic to hear… so he basically said to you(haters)that you need to come back to the real world instead wanting a person(Lebron) who you don’t even know to fail(which is sad). I applaud him for that but by the looks of it he will have more of a happier speech by the end of this series.
     
         
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    Re: Who will win in the finals maimi or OKC??

    OKC, for the comeback win
     
         

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    Re: Who will win in the finals maimi or OKC??

    Quote Originally Posted by PUU View Post
    a hater with an excuse... that's new

    thanks man... btw larry legend was a beast:D

    sigh.

    oh so i guess you know the Miami Heat players personally right? how can you call them f@gs when you haven't spoken one word to any of them? Your post shows that you are another hater and a ***** on top of that because you wouldn't say that ignorant shit to any one of their faces.

    Yea i think they will end it tonight if not defintely game 6.



    It did not totally make the NBA lopsided, basically it has been almost the exact same teams in both conferences making it to the playoffs and most of the teams that struggled (pre Lebron decision) are still struggling since Lebron went to Miami. Yes teams like the Cavs became irrelevant overnight but that’s because they never really had great players other then Lebron, Miami ofc made a dramatic improvement and became a force in the East and the NBA but as a whole the NBA(Eastern Conference) basically have been the same with the exception of a few teams. Almost all of the teams that were championship contenders a couple years ago were considered the same heading into these years’ playoffs so the competiveness is still there. The East dating back to early 2000s have always been top heavy while the West have been for evened out, and from what I can tell it has been the same thing for the last 2 years, so again there shouldn’t be a problem with him going to Miami.

    I disagree with you again; most of Miami wins are from Lebron taking over(the whole game), I’m not dismissing Dwade, Bosh, and the supporting player’s importance but it has been proven if anybody on that team were to take over a game… Lebron would be the one to give the team the best chance to win because he can hurt you in more ways than Dwade(and his other teammates) can because he is the most complete player in the NBA. Just because he went to a team that already had a superstar on it doesn’t mean he took a back seat… putting up numbers and like 27.1PPG, 7.9RPG, 6.2APG, 53FG%, 1.8 SPG, 0.8BPG this regular season/ 30.5PPG, 9.7RPG, 5.3 APG, 50FG%, 1.9SPG, 0.6BPG this postseason/winning the MVP award/finished 3rd in the DPOY votes/All NBA first team/NBA All Defensive first team/allstar starter/ and if the Heat do win he would unquestionably be the NBA finals MVP is not taking a back seat bruh http://www.nba.com/playerfile/lebron...eer_stats.html.

    Correct me if I’m wrong but are you are saying just because they had great players on their team they(Bird/Magic) are in a class that Lebron can’t reach?What? Lebron is not Dwade’s sidekick and Dwade is not Lebron’s but it is unquestionably that Lebron is the better one. Most fans(except for haters) realize this and you need too also.

    . Let us say hypothetically that Lebron won’t be in the top 5 players of alltime but is considered by most fans to be top 10, does not being considered not in the top 5 make it a bad thing? At the end of his career if he is not in that company he would be just below it which is a great accomplishment which is not a bad thing man. No, when they look back on this team, Lebron will be the first name mentioned not Dwade.

    I lol’ed hard when he called out his haters after he lost last year because it was the truth, ya’ll(haters) were so consumed even obsessed with wanting him to fail and still do that it got to a point where it was disgusting and pathetic to hear… so he basically said to you(haters)that you need to come back to the real world instead wanting a person(Lebron) who you don’t even know to fail(which is sad). I applaud him for that but by the looks of it he will have more of a happier speech by the end of this series.
    No point in continuing this argument, lebron just proved me wrong. Congrats to lebron and congrats to the heat.

    I still stand to my belief that at the end of the day, 20 years after he retires, he will not be considered as michael jordon or any of those guys are, he will be great, no doubt first ballot HOFer, but not them.
     
         

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    Re: Who will win in the finals maimi or OKC??

    Quote Originally Posted by ~Hasashi~ View Post
    No point in continuing this argument, lebron just proved me wrong. Congrats to lebron and congrats to the heat.

    I still stand to my belief that at the end of the day, 20 years after he retires, he will not be considered as michael jordon or any of those guys are, he will be great, no doubt first ballot HOFer, but not them.
    you can continue having your beliefs but let me remind you that even if he doesn't put up a body of work better than the GOAT(Jordan) or equals him it will not be a thing to hold against him because like i said Jordan is the GOAT but lebron has a CHANCE if he continues to do what he does and win more titles to be considered equal or better than jordan.
     
         

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