Naruto Manga 405 Predictions / 404 Discussion

**Versuvio** · 06-13-2008, 07:34 AM

Manga has been released
http://www.narutobase.net/Gallery/Naruto-Manga/404/

Discuss here Naruto Manga 404 and predict Naruto Manga 405.

**mihcom** · 06-13-2008, 07:48 AM

nice chapter but I'm waiting to see naruto and his training, I hope kishi wount continue to split the story between Naruto and sasuke/tobi. its undeniable now that naruto will train with the toads, but the question is what will happen in konoha during that time?? will his training be interuppted by the war or will he return to see konoha defeated? Waht do you think?

**kudos2_2** · 06-13-2008, 08:04 AM

well i think we have defined that madara has more than 1 identity, we are told he is the kage of the water village and madara, and it seems at the end of the chapter madara is almost reporting to zetsu, and who is zetsu??? when he said its been so long it probably means hes from konoha as well, and madaras plan with sasuke...... so many unasked questions........

and yeah naruto is definity going to be trained by the toads, as well as thati want to see wat powers itachi gave naruto//....

**mihcom** · 06-13-2008, 08:12 AM

madara.. well I dont know if I shuold still calll him madara...he went from tobi to obito to madara and now mizukage?? the plot has became pretty crazy
as for the mizukage thing.. either madara was the mizukage at some point or the mizukage killed madara and stole his sharingan(that would explain why he has only one hole in his mask) but still, he knows too much about the uchihas and it is just confusing:confused: kishi's toying with our minds..nooo

and he wasnt reporting to zetsu they were just discussing

**UchlhaSasuke** · 06-13-2008, 08:52 AM

ok now i cant wait for the next chapter. i wanna see what naruto gonna do .
and i wonde when kishi `ll show madara face..
for sure there is secret from hiding it all that time

**mihcom** · 06-13-2008, 08:59 AM

well I read the manga again and I must point out some interesting things:

1. Kisame said "Mizukage... I mean Madara" that implies that tobi is indeed Madara and that he was the Mizukage, I think that some of the seven swordsmen found out Mizukages secret and tried to assasinate him but failed, because Kisame instanly related Mizukage to Madara, that means he knew who he was when he was still the kage
2. At the left of the toad sage is the toad with the key to Naruto's seal! so were not far away from finding out more about this key, I hope in the next manga
3. Tobi sad that Akatsuki isnt ready yet, and Kisame sad that hawk isnt either, so that means they wont attack just yet so Naruto will have time to train (and I hope this next chapters will show his training)

also about the remaining jinchuriki... what about he and naruto will fight against akatsuki toghether?? that would be a cool fight:D:D

**UchlhaSasuke** · 06-13-2008, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by mihcom

well I read the manga again and I must point out some interesting things:

1. Kisame said "Mizukage... I mean Madara" that implies that tobi is indeed Madara and that he was the Mizukage, I think that some of the seven swordsmen found out Mizukages secret and tried to assasinate him but failed, because Kisame instanly related Mizukage to Madara, that means he knew who he was when he was still the kage
2. At the left of the toad sage is the toad with the key to Naruto's seal! so were not far away from finding out more about this key, I hope in the next manga
3. Tobi sad that Akatsuki isnt ready yet, and Kisame sad that hawk isnt either, so that means they wont attack just yet so Naruto will have time to train (and I hope this next chapters will show his training)

also about the remaining jinchuriki... what about he and naruto will fight against akatsuki toghether?? that would be a cool fight:D:D

i wanted 2 mention the 1st point.. but i totally forgot lol
but yea u r right about what u said
and sasuke said he want 2 kill the elders only and not going 2 hurt anyone else..
why he going 2 attack naruto then?!!

**mihcom** · 06-13-2008, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by UchlhaSasuke

why he going 2 attack naruto then?!!

because thats the deal with akatsuki: they will help him reach the elders and sasuke will help them capture naruto, but that wount happen because of Itachi

**UchlhaSasuke** · 06-13-2008, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by mihcom

because thats the deal with akatsuki: they will help him reach the elders and sasuke will help them capture naruto, but that wount happen because of Itachi

i think itachi power that he give 2 naruto that 2 make him able 2 control the kyuubi..
or 2 save naruto from dying if they trying 2 drain the kyuubi chakra from him
but anyway i dont think he `ll attack naruto..
or maybe for while but he wont kill him ..
sasuke still think of naruto as his best friend . and he care about him

**mihcom** · 06-13-2008, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by UchlhaSasuke

i think itachi power that he give 2 naruto that 2 make him able 2 control the kyuubi..
or 2 save naruto from dying if they trying 2 drain the kyuubi chakra from him
but anyway i dont think he `ll attack naruto..
or maybe for while but he wont kill him ..
sasuke still think of naruto as his best friend . and he care about him

Yeah I think sasuke still cares for naruto too

as for naruto's powers... I' sure after he return from toad mountain hell be beyond kage level and we will see him at his best:D ...hopefully...

**UchlhaSasuke** · 06-13-2008, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by mihcom

Yeah I think sasuke still cares for naruto too

as for naruto's powers... I' sure after he return from toad mountain hell be beyond kage level and we will see him at his best:D ...hopefully...

haha yea i hope so .because i had enough from seeing him using kage bunshin and rasengan lol
oh it `ll be cool if he can use his dad high speed ^^

**Flaw** · 06-13-2008, 09:53 AM

i wanted to see naruto's reaction and i really think jiraya ment a lot for him..i donno now jiaya is gone perhaps he will train with the toads and the ywill becoem hsi new wapons..i wanna se rasen-shuuriken again in action

**SupremeSpoiler** · 06-13-2008, 10:02 AM

Wow..Thats A Very Twisting Part..Kisame Refers To Madara As Mizukage..I Would Just Like To Share This..In Every Country There Is A Kage..

Konoha = Hokage ( Fire Shadow )
Hidden Sand Village = Kazekage ( Wind Shadow )
Hiddent Mist Village = "Mizukage" ( Water Shadow )
Hidden Rock Village = Tsuchikage ( Earth Shadow )
Hidden Cloud Village = Raikage ( Lightning Shadow )

Take Note That Kisame Is From The Hidden Mist Village And He Was A Former Hidden Mist Seven Shinobi Swordsman And Now He Is A Powerful Missing Nin.. So I Think That Kisame Right Now Knows The Real Identity Of Tobi..And What Im Thinking Right Now Is That Tobi Is Not Really Madara..And I Would Like To Tell That If You Remember The Past Of Momochi Zabuza..He Attempted To Assasinate The Mizukage Of Hidden Mist..Which Literally Failed Because The Mizukage Left The Hidden Mist Village For His/Her Safety..I Don't Know The Real Identity Of That Mizukage..But Maybe That Mizukage Right Now Is Tobi..

Tobi Cannot Be Madara Because When He Revealed Himself To Kisame He Said.."You Were Closest To Me..So Im Sorry For Deceiving You"..Which Means That Kisame And Tobi(As Mizukage) Has Known Each Other Before Thats Why When Tobi Removed His Mas..Kisame Refers To Him As Mizukage And Then Reverted It Fast To The Name Tobi So No One Could Here It..

Oh And The Reason Why Zabuza And His Crew Tried To Assasinate The Mizukage Was To Take Over The Hidden Mist Village..Thats Why He Was Called The Devil Of The Hidden Mist Was Due To His Attitude..^^

**Ryouku** · 06-13-2008, 10:18 AM

He didnt say to Kisame " you were the closest to me " he sait " you were the closest to Him " so i guess he mean that Kisame was the Closest to Itachi

and i think that akatsuki and hawk will attack konoha but sasuke will not kill naruto and sakura and he will kill madara because he asks itachi who was the person who helped you to kill uchiha and itachi asked why do you want to know and sasuke answered because hes the next on my list , and i think he will not go back on his words

**Mangekyou Kakashi** · 06-13-2008, 10:24 AM

i am really confused!!! Who the heck really is Tobi...?? First Obito, then Evryone in akatsuki calls him Madara, then now Mizukage?? wat has kishi up his sleeves??

**SupremeSpoiler** · 06-13-2008, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by Ryouku

He didnt say to Kisame " you were the closest to me " he sait " you were the closest to Him " so i guess he mean that Kisame was the Closest to Itachi

and i think that akatsuki and hawk will attack konoha but sasuke will not kill naruto and sakura and he will kill madara because he asks itachi who was the person who helped you to kill uchiha and itachi asked why do you want to know and sasuke answered because hes the next on my list , and i think he will not go back on his words

Pls Read The Manga Carefully..Tobi Said "You Were Closest To Me..Im Sorry For Deceiving You"

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/404/01/

**ToadSageJiraiya** · 06-13-2008, 11:40 AM

finally we reach this point............anyone know the chapter of next manga

**Sasuke** · 06-13-2008, 11:57 AM

If Naruto goes to train in the mountain is there going to be another time-skip or what?
And i thought that Tsunade is going to react different about J-man death

**Miggy69** · 06-13-2008, 12:06 PM

we have not seen anyones reaction just yet we have to wait and see and naruto looks like he going to cry madara and "tobi" is the same person and kisame realise that thats why he said "so you were pulling the strings"

**HokagePein** · 06-13-2008, 12:24 PM

Good observation noticing what Tobi said to Kisame i just read by it figuring he meant Itachi that definitely puts a twist on things and cant wait for Naruto's reaction and for Naruto to rock a new head band J mans headband

**narutowillsnapsoon** · 06-13-2008, 12:27 PM

itachi's illusion that went into naruto's mouth is a resisting sharingan technique
we all know sasuke has the power to suppress the fox as he was able to when they reunite at orochimaru's hq and sasuke goes into narutos mind as he talks to the fox.
honestly, its just time for naruto snap and just destroy people.
however, the theory that tobi isnt madara seems to be fitting for some reason, someone has his sharingan maybe. but pein is coming soon too so naruto has to get on the bunshin kage training once again but with the toads.

**Miggy69** · 06-13-2008, 12:33 PM

There are a few things that people should observe in the manga
1. The scroll that jiraiya sent to naruto(someone said this already but i saw it myself)
2. The head toad is the one that Jiraiya left the message on his back thats why he is wearing a cloak.
3. Madara is closest with zetsu he wasnt reporting to him they were just talking(someone also said this)
4. Madara toke suigetsu sword to his hand and nothing happened not sure how he did that.
5. The first Hokage had a number if tailed beast at his command but e died still trying to figure that out.
6. I think madara was afraid of Itachi because he said "Itachi's dead so the leaf village is no longer off limits"
7. And last madara was lying to sasuke because on the last page zetsu said that no one would ever reveal the truth about Itachi. Then madara said that Itachi toke the truth to his grave.

Just a few things i saw and wanted to share

**narutowillsnapsoon** · 06-13-2008, 12:46 PM

i have a feeling kakashi is going to die

**Sasuke** · 06-13-2008, 12:47 PM

would you want Naruto to have different clothes when he come back from the mountain, maybe a weapon too aldoo he has his kunai thing?
O and maybe when he gets back he will be with Gamakitchi

**aVague** · 06-13-2008, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by narutowillsnapsoon

i have a feeling kakashi is going to die

no way ! such person can't die cuz of his mind

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