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    Re: Naruto Manga 591 Discussion and 592 Predictions

    I swear if sasuke or naruto ends up killing madara ALONE i will curse this series till the day i die!!!

    ...ok maybe i shouldnt say KILL madara. but you know
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 591 Discussion and 592 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by SandCoffinGara View Post
    Madara is not immortal and has infinite chakra. Please reread the chapter. If he knew the seals to release the edo then why not do it earlier? Easy the edo makes him immortal and gives him an infinite chakra pool. He didn't want to release it for this reason while fighting high level opponents such as the kages. He clearly states that it is troublesome to give up these abilities to finish his current fight. His statement about not messing with forbidden techniques is basically a statement that Kabuto didn't understand the opponents that he raised with edo. He underestimated Itachi's ability to release from the edo, as well as Madara's ability to release it. Basically Madara goes back to his former self. He will not be able to regenerate any damage he takes and using high level abilities like perfect Susano will drain his chakra quickly.
    I agree with this statement 100% logic! Madara is no longer immortal...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 591 Discussion and 592 Predictions

    Edo is gone so thet made it good for me.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 591 Discussion and 592 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Anduril View Post
    I am guessing this sets the stage for a Sasuke vs Madara Battle
    Obviously. And since Tobi doesn't want to loose Sasuke ...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 591 Discussion and 592 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by SandCoffinGara View Post
    Madara is not immortal and has infinite chakra. Please reread the chapter. If he knew the seals to release the edo then why not do it earlier? Easy the edo makes him immortal and gives him an infinite chakra pool. He didn't want to release it for this reason while fighting high level opponents such as the kages. He clearly states that it is troublesome to give up these abilities to finish his current fight. His statement about not messing with forbidden techniques is basically a statement that Kabuto didn't understand the opponents that he raised with edo. He underestimated Itachi's ability to release from the edo, as well as Madara's ability to release it. Basically Madara goes back to his former self. He will not be able to regenerate any damage he takes and using high level abilities like perfect Susano will drain his chakra quickly.
    See, I had this same thought. Infinite Chakra? No way, I can't even imagine that the ET victim would have that to begin with - simply till they are destroyed and reformed as Madara had been before.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 591 Discussion and 592 Predictions

    as Itach said, "every Jutsu has a weakness". So I think The Uchiha is especial Clan with great abilities. I hope in the end of the series is ""Naruto & Sasuke (as a team) vs Real Madara" :D:D
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 591 Discussion and 592 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by LssJBroly View Post
    5 stars awesome
    loved
    -How Dan and Tsunade finally met ! I've been hoping for that ever since he was brought back as an edo ! I'm glad he saved her ! I didn't want Tsunade to die!

    -Also Madara lives ! wootwoot party right here !

    On further observation of the page I now see what Madara means , he knows the seals to release himself from the edo tensei contract which means he's free , so this is bad for kabuto who is actually sort of niave ( imean he is young) as he carelessly underestimated his edo's abilities , as madara has broken free of the edo tensei contract and now kabuto has a potential enemy , an immortal infinite chakra Madara running around out there
    MORAL OF THE STORY: A forbidden jutsu is forbidden for a reason
    there is always a great risk ,
    Izangi/Izanami: loss of an eye , Konan's paper technique: Large drain of chakra and
    Edo Tensei: edo breaking free and becoming an almost unstoppable potential enemy :D

    -AND DAN ! HIS JUTSU IS AWESOME ! HE WOULD OF MADE AN AWESOME HOKAGE!

    Border line liked
    -Itachi departing leaving sasuke , would of liked to see a tear from sasuke , maybe a line from sasuke to itachi ?

    Hated
    -No Tobi vs Naruto and Bee -.-
    -Itachi pretty much wasted his time - the main edo still lives -.-
    -I feel the whole kabuto vs itachi thing was a waste -.- TOO LONG for what the end result was

    Questions:
    -How did Madara know the seals to release himself ? Did Tobirama perhaps fight him with his edo tensei ? But then what edo would of released themselves so Madara could see ? Idk but thats my #1 question coming from this chapter , anyone who can answer it i will love you forever ...
    (see what i did there ) ^.^ nah i'll give you rep :P


    What about tobi? Maybe he is the edo that tobirama left...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 591 Discussion and 592 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Komaguy View Post
    Your last sentence is interesting, i myself was wondering about this... why the hell didn't anyone just use the Deathgod Sealing? Maybe the arc would have ended a little bit too fast....
    Because only the 4th and 3rd knew that tech.

    the 2nd Hokage never freed himself because after the kunai was added to his body his soul was killed. And before that he was JUST being summoned, So there was not enough time before his mind was activated for him to figure out what was going on to react.

    Plus im sure the seals are not universal. IF you remember Kabuto has a scroll with their new body and contact in them. So im sure you can bind whatever signs to the tech as you see fit. ( kind of like a code )

    BTW Tobirama is Tobi and Rama, Rama being close to Ramen. So Tobi is the Ramen shop guy.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 591 Discussion and 592 Predictions

    Madara is a complete BEAST!

    Kishi suprises me every time........
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 591 Discussion and 592 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisisaartist View Post
    What about tobi? Maybe he is the edo that tobirama left...
    that is an interesting theori.....


    Makes sence since tobi does not show any pain when he gets indured or loose an arm.......
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 591 Discussion and 592 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by SandCoffinGara View Post
    Madara is not immortal and has infinite chakra. Please reread the chapter. If he knew the seals to release the edo then why not do it earlier? Easy the edo makes him immortal and gives him an infinite chakra pool. He didn't want to release it for this reason while fighting high level opponents such as the kages. He clearly states that it is troublesome to give up these abilities to finish his current fight. His statement about not messing with forbidden techniques is basically a statement that Kabuto didn't understand the opponents that he raised with edo. He underestimated Itachi's ability to release from the edo, as well as Madara's ability to release it. Basically Madara goes back to his former self. He will not be able to regenerate any damage he takes and using high level abilities like perfect Susano will drain his chakra quickly.
    here is also a theory.....

    Madara could not controll himself before the tech was released, wich means that he was not able to release himself from the edo before gaining controll over his body.....

    this means that he is still an edo, just not a controlled one.
    pretty much like itachi...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 591 Discussion and 592 Predictions

    i didnt get one thing lmao. Ok so according to madara if you know the seals to release the edo tensei you can basically stop yourself from being released right? well itachi also knew the seals to release the edo tensei (obviously) why didnt he stop himself from being released too? Or what about tobirama from when orochimaru had him under control. he knows the seals right? why the hell didnt he release the edo tensei? wait now that i think about it i know why tobirama couldnt do it. I think it only works when the person who summoned you releases you..... since apparently you gain control over your body for a few seconds you can stop your own release. IF that is the case it still doesnt explain why itachi didnt prevent his own release. I guess it is probably because he wanted to die and didnt expect madara to do what he did lmao
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 591 Discussion and 592 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisisaartist View Post
    What about tobi? Maybe he is the edo that tobirama left...
    That's a very interesting theory, however if Tobi knew how to undo the seals and had such vast knowledge of Edo Tensei why did he have to have Kabuto explain it to him.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 591 Discussion and 592 Predictions

    I really wanted that Itachi released himself from ET as Madara did so he still be around!!!!! I can't wait for the next one!!!!!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 591 Discussion and 592 Predictions

    Susano vs Susano is coming.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 591 Discussion and 592 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi2304 View Post
    i didnt get one thing lmao. Ok so according to madara if you know the seals to release the edo tensei you can basically stop yourself from being released right? well itachi also knew the seals to release the edo tensei (obviously) why didnt he stop himself from being released too? Or what about tobirama from when orochimaru had him under control. he knows the seals right? why the hell didnt he release the edo tensei? wait now that i think about it i know why tobirama couldnt do it. I think it only works when the person who summoned you releases you..... since apparently you gain control over your body for a few seconds you can stop your own release. IF that is the case it still doesnt explain why itachi didnt prevent his own release. I guess it is probably because he wanted to die and didnt expect madara to do what he did lmao
    Itachi said he had no more connections to this world. A common theme presented in Naruto is the new generation surpassing the old. I think he has faith in Naruto and that Sasuke will join Naruto in the fight against Madara and Tobi. In reality, although less intelligent and battle adept Sasuke has potential to exceed Itachi in power with his EMS. In addition, I am sure Itachi provided him with the sword of totsuka and the yata mirror.

    Then he may have just been completely oblivious to the situation and not known about Madara hahaha.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 591 Discussion and 592 Predictions

    -Since the Edos came out I always wondered what kishi was going to do with dan , since his arrival he hasn't even been close to Tsunade , but that is finally explained and frankly I kinda wish he didn't stop madara ...oh well.

    Some questions

    - How long till we see Tobi vs Naruto? 596? 597???

    Dan

    - How powerfull was He?? obviously not a bum if kabuto brought him back

    - Choza (with help) must have know how good he was since he use a barrier to restrain him. Were they in the same team maybe?

    - Why did he look so different? Did they bring in a new artist that knew how to draw everyone else but dan?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 591 Discussion and 592 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by SandCoffinGara View Post
    Madara is not immortal and has infinite chakra. Please reread the chapter. If he knew the seals to release the edo then why not do it earlier? Easy the edo makes him immortal and gives him an infinite chakra pool. He didn't want to release it for this reason while fighting high level opponents such as the kages. He clearly states that it is troublesome to give up these abilities to finish his current fight. His statement about not messing with forbidden techniques is basically a statement that Kabuto didn't understand the opponents that he raised with edo. He underestimated Itachi's ability to release from the edo, as well as Madara's ability to release it. Basically Madara goes back to his former self. He will not be able to regenerate any damage he takes and using high level abilities like perfect Susano will drain his chakra quickly.
    Well said
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 591 Discussion and 592 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto N. Uzumaki View Post
    decent chapter what did madara mean at the end
    released himself from the edo tensei
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 591 Discussion and 592 Predictions

    I like some of the discourse on this thread. The chapter itself sucked until the last page. Madara is such a beast.

    Moreover, I think we're not accurately dissecting a few key facts provided by Kishi.

    How does Madara know the hand seals to break ET? So far, we have no record that he ever confronted Tobirama. The only way for him to know is through Tobi (via telepathy or some other means) there has to be a hidden connection...

    The world knows Madara Uchihawas the one who lost to Hashirama Senju. However, what is the real truth? The victor is the one who can gaze into the future. The real challenge begins from now.The previous battle was merelyto obtain his power. I am Madara Uchiha and I possess the power of Senju Hashirama. I am the second Sage of the Six Paths. I am unique... What powers?

    What does Kabuto really mean when he states that his ET is superior to that of Orochimaru's and Tobirama Senju's? There has to be more to it than just the power boost. Maybe he expected Madara to break free...

    We can't honestly believe that Orochimaru is gone... I believe he purposely let Sasuke absorb him and Itachi absorb him (via susano'o) to learn the secrets behind the sharingan's power... Part of him still resides within both of them. We really don't know that much about Orochimaru (or any of the villains), if you think about it.

    Just a couple thoughts.... no rage pl0x. :shrug:

    What do you guys think?
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 591 Discussion and 592 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by aznbkmami View Post
    I like some of the discourse on this thread. However, I think we're not accurately dissecting a few key facts provided by Kishi.

    The world knows Madara Uchihawas the one who lost to Hashirama Senju. However, what is the real truth? The victor is the one who can gaze into the future. The real challenge begins from now.The previous battle was merelyto obtain his power. I am Madara Uchiha and I possess the power of Senju Hashirama. I am the second Sage of the Six Paths. I am unique... What powers?

    What does Kabuto really mean when he states that his ET is superior to that of Orochimaru's and Tobirama Senju's? There has to be more to it than just the power boost. Maybe he expected Madara to break free...

    We can't honestly believe that Orochimaru is gone... I believe he purposely let Sasuke absorb him and Itachi absorb him (via susano'o) to learn the secrets behind the sharingan's power... Part of him still resides within both of them. We really don't know that much about Orochimaru (or any of the villains), if you think about it.

    Just a couple thoughts.... no rage pl0x. :shrug:
    sorry to tell ya totsuka seals your soul. Thats it orochimaru is done he is no longer relevant.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 591 Discussion and 592 Predictions

    Awesome chapter!
    However what happens now with madara now out and really badass?!!!
    Will he go after tobi and become the new villain or what? Plus i think its time naruto's relationship to SO6P comes out cos i see no one who can face madara right now and live. Not even sasuke. A bijuu powered naruto might for a while though
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 591 Discussion and 592 Predictions

    Boring chapter sadly for me!

    One question...did Muu disappeared too? Cuz I dont remembered seeing him fly away!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 591 Discussion and 592 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkdeeds View Post
    sorry to tell ya totsuka seals your soul. Thats it orochimaru is done he is no longer relevant.

    We don't even know if that was the REAL Orochimaru that Totsuka absorbed. My money is on Orochimaru coming back. :ice:
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 591 Discussion and 592 Predictions

    Yeaaa Buddyyyy Madara is still the game, no more unlimted chakra but still a badass to be reckoned with. :D
     
         

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