Current Tobi vs. Current Madara

[SilverSlick]

Just wanted to know what the general consensus was.

[TheSages456]

madara

[SilverSlick]

Also explain why if you wouldn't mind.

[Ryuu..]

Personally think Tobi has the higher chance of victory. Realistically, I cannot see Madara countering Tobi's intangibility or S/T ninjutsu.

[SilverSlick]

Personally think Tobi has the higher chance of victory. Realistically, I cannot see Madara countering Tobi's intangibility or S/T ninjutsu.

Ahhhh good, plus he has the paths and could theoretically suck Madara into another dimension or soulrape him with his Human path. This requires him to get close though but he is one of the only ones to have a chance since he is intangible.

[Kira was Righteous]

What other people doesn't matter if there wrong so asking for what everyone thinks to influence your decision is stupid

Madara currently is stronger from what we have seen.Space time is not as strong as many make out or he would have been stronger then the 6 paths of pain .If Tobi shows more with Nagatos Rinnegan it may change

[TheSages456]

Also explain why if you wouldn't mind.

madara can throw all the bijuu back with multiple slashes of perfect susanos sword. then he ends them with amaterasu. madaras large scale katons can also burn them and can help take the 7 tails(a flying tailed beast) off the air. madara with his rinnegan can also absorb any of their chakra based attacks.

gedo mazos chakra based attacks are absorbed and it gets hit by amaterasu and slashed by perfect susano or madara can drop 2 meteors on it then while gedo mazo is trying to prevent itself from being crushed by meteors, madara ends it with perfect susano. another factor that people dont consider, is that when gedo mazo is destroyed, the tailed beasts will come out. if they will get involved in the fight or not is unknown.

[~MC117~]

Tobi would win IMO

[Strict]

Madara is stronger. Ok, Tobi has his intangible but it has a limit of 5 minutes. And i honestly don't see how Tobi intends to kill Madara, too. Not only he combines the EMS, Rinnegan and Mokuton, he hasn't a Chakra limit and has an undying body.

[Ryuu..]

Madara is stronger. Ok, Tobi has his intangible but it has a limit of 5 minutes. And i honestly don't see how Tobi intends to kill Madara, too. Not only he combines the EMS, Rinnegan and Mokuton, he hasn't a Chakra limit and has an undying body.

Kill Madara? No. Kidnap him? Yes. And Madara must attack Tobi's body consistently for 5 minutes in order to counter his intangibility, otherwise the clock restarts. And I find that unlikely.

[SilverSlick]

What other people doesn't matter if there wrong so asking for what everyone thinks to influence your decision is stupid

Madara currently is stronger from what we have seen.Space time is not as strong as many make out or he would have been stronger then the 6 paths of pain .If Tobi shows more with Nagatos Rinnegan it may change

I've already came to a decision of who will win before I even created this thread. The reason why I made this thread was to read other people's opinion on who would win. I don't let other people influence my own opinions. I formulate my own. I come to decisions after I do my own research. I don't go to message boards and steal other people's ideas just to further my own. So please be more respectful.

[MickNerks]

this is difficult.. They can both suck each others soul.. Madara has susanoo but tobi has intagibility.. idk who takes it..

[TobisPawn]

Tobi. Madara has no definite counter to Tobi's S/T techs nor does he have connstant 5 minute attacks.

[yuan of cruxis]

Madara most likely
Cause currrent Tobi doesnt have the bijuu with him anymore lol

[TobisPawn]

Madara most likely
Cause currrent Tobi doesnt have the bijuu with him anymore lol

He still has the Bijuus. Just not the Jinchuurikis. And its more about Tobi's S/T techs than his paths.

[USSJ Future Trunks]

. then he ends them with amaterasu.

tobi shinra tenseis the amaterasu off of the jins

Cause currrent Tobi doesnt have the bijuu with him anymore lol

and current madaras dead so he auto wins there

then he ends them with amaterasu. madaras large scale katons can also burn

guess you forgot who also can absorb any jutsu. with the type of battle this is, all ninjutsu is useless so it comes down to tai and gen and possibly space time hax

[TheSages456]

tobi shinra tenseis the amaterasu off of the jins

i guess you forgot that tobi doesnt fight with the jinchuriki as he has to control them. we already saw that he almost lost control of the 5 tails before. if he stops to fight then he will lose control of the beasts.

and current madaras dead so he auto wins there

current madaras an edo tensei who cant die so bad logic

guess you forgot who also can absorb any jutsu. with the type of battle this is, all ninjutsu is useless so it comes down to tai and gen and possibly space time hax

you do realize that madara is far more skilled in close quarters combat than tobi? madara actually is more skilled than tobi in all areas of ninja skills except for space-time ninjutsu. also he most likely knows about tobiramas space-time ninjutsu since he knows about his edo tensei so he probably has knowledge. madara most definitely has knowledge on tobisince the 2 know eachother and were and may still be working together.

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[TobisPawn]

i guess you forgot that tobi doesnt fight with the jinchuriki as he has to control them. we already saw that he almost lost control of the 5 tails before. if he stops to fight then he will lose control of the beasts.

Not if he doesn't have all of them in full Bijuu state at once. Using them as Edo Jinchuurikis (unlimited chakra; Madara has no sealing techs) is also beneficial to him.

current madaras an edo tensei who cant die so bad logic

Well we're using them in their primes here anyway so it doesn't really matter.

you do realize that madara is far more skilled in close quarters combat than tobi? madara actually is more skilled than tobi in all areas of ninja skills except for space-time ninjutsu. also he most likely knows about tobiramas space-time ninjutsu since he knows about his edo tensei so he probably has knowledge. madara most definitely has knowledge on tobisince the 2 know eachother and were and may still be working together.

Not really. Tobi's intangibility and good reaction time makes him near untouchable in close quarters, and he can land any hit he wants. And Tobiram's S/T techs don't make a difference here. You saw the difference in FTG and Tobi's. And likewise, Tobi has knowledge on Madara.

[TheSages456]

Not if he doesn't have all of them in full Bijuu state at once. Using them as Edo Jinchuurikis (unlimited chakra; Madara has no sealing techs) is also beneficial to him.

at the time he lost control, only the 5 tails was fully transformed. the rest of the jinchurikis were in V2 mode. madara also has unlimited chakra.

Well we're using them in their primes here anyway so it doesn't really matter.

it didnt say that in the OP. the title says current madara.

Not really. Tobi's intangibility and good reaction time makes him near untouchable in close quarters, and he can land any hit he wants. And Tobiram's S/T techs don't make a difference here. You saw the difference in FTG and Tobi's. And likewise, Tobi has knowledge on Madara.

no. madara has proven that he is amazingly swift in close quarters. he was able to take out a large portion of the 4th division using kenjutsu only while avoiding gaaras sand. tobi can turn intangible but how is he going to hit madara when he decides to attack. also madara can wear down his intangibility with large scale katons. tobi can either chose to absorb them or go intangible. if he goes intangible then madara continues to wear down his intangibility with more katons and waiting until tobi attacks to strike. if tobi decides to absorb it then madara can go behind tobi and kill him from there while tobi is absorbing the katon.

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[TobisPawn]

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I must have missed the 5 tails thing. My bad.

And I yeah, I reread the title. But its Tobi's S/T techs that pose the biggest threat anyway.

You act like Tobi can't do anything when he's tangible...and Katons aren't wearing down intangibility when Tobi only has to go tangible for a few seconds to reset it.

[TheSages456]

I must have missed the 5 tails thing. My bad.

And I yeah, I reread the title. But its Tobi's S/T techs that pose the biggest threat anyway.

You act like Tobi can't do anything when he's tangible...and Katons aren't wearing down intangibility when Tobi only has to go tangible for a few seconds to reset it.

so tobi is just gonna stay intangible and run away from madaras attacks. he has to attack or this really cant be called a fight.

[IllusionRamen]

I think it could go either way lol might be draw, but Tobi have S/T so perhaps he will just have that little edge but that could carry him to victory at decisive moment.

Gedo mazo can compete with complete Susanoo
both have Sharingan and Rinnengan lol.

nothing could really hurt Tobi when he decide to go ghost mode.
no physical or ninjutsu could hurt I think.

both can try suck other person's soul though lol probably turn into soul sucking fest because that's only way really to defeat.

[TobisPawn]

so tobi is just gonna stay intangible and run away from madaras attacks. he has to attack or this really cant be called a fight.

You're forgetting that he has the Rinnegan and Gedo Mazo (7 Bijuus) with him...of course he'll also attack and also possibly wait for the opportunity to steal Madara's soul or warp him away

[TheSages456]

You're forgetting that he has the Rinnegan and Gedo Mazo (7 Bijuus) with him...of course he'll also attack and also possibly wait for the opportunity to steal Madara's soul or warp him away

madara drops 2 meteors on gedo mazo and when it tries to destroy them to prevent from being crushed, madara slices it with perfect susano.

[Invsblphntm]

Madara can't fight 7 biju at a time or Gedo Mazo powered by them.

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