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    The Fight Between Hashirama Senju And Uchiha Madara

    State Your Insights And Some Ideas That Happened On The Battle Of Uchiha Madara And Hashirama Senju..

    For Me..I Think Something Happened In That Battle That All Of Us Did Not Know..Maybe Senju Defeated Madara By Plucking His Left Eye Out To Disable The Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan..Thus Makes Tobi Now Wears A Mask With Only The Right Eye Visible..

    And Further Do We Know That Harashima Senju Has The Unique Ability To Control A Bijuu At His Own Will..And That Ability Was Enhanced By His Crystalized Necklace Which Tsunade Wears Now..Remember That Orochimaru Deeply Coveted This Power And He Splited The Tissues Of Senju And Implanted It To His Subject So That He Can Attain The Bijuu Control And Mokuton Techniques..But His Subjects Failed..Only One Survived Thus He Is Yamato..And Yamato Is A Great Skilled Ninja Who Has Mokuton Techniques, Sealing Techniques And Altering The Bijuu Chakra Influenced By Its Host
     
         

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    wow thanks man
     
         

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    naruto wears the neckless now
     
         

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    i think that madara fooled hashirama and the world. he is still alive which means shodaime didnt really defeat him.
    He probably didnt get his eye hurt to have the mask on. I tihnk for some reason he is fused with obito and has only one eye for now.
    ALso obito died in the hidden grass, zetsus village so that also supports this. And madara couldnt have possibly lived with his body for 200 years so he had to do something.
    Madara is too strong to be defeated by some1 like hashirama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Takato Uchiha View Post
    wow thanks man
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madara Uchiha View Post
    i think that madara fooled hashirama and the world. he is still alive which means shodaime didnt really defeat him.
    He probably didnt get his eye hurt to have the mask on. I tihnk for some reason he is fused with obito and has only one eye for now.
    ALso obito died in the hidden grass, zetsus village so that also supports this. And madara couldnt have possibly lived with his body for 200 years so he had to do something.
    Madara is too strong to be defeated by some1 like hashirama.
    ^^
    I bolded the part in the quote I found weird.

    One, Harashima was very powerful. It's sort of like saying: (Let's use Greek mythology), Athena was too strong to be defeated by someone like Ares. Athena may be much stronger than Ares, but to talk about him like this doesn't take into account that Ares could still destroy countries if he so desired.

    Two: Hashirama did defeat Madara. He didn't kill him. But he defeated him. Madara is strong, but he is by no means "The Ultimate Shinobi" Of the five Hokages at least two of them were stronger than him: the first and the third. We know this because the first beat him, and because the third was supposedly one of the strongest Shinobi ever.

    I know you mean that Madara tricked Hashirama, but I just didn't like the way you phrased it, and its late here, and I decided to point out flaws that I saw with the phrasing.

    Even more, in my mind, I don't think Madara tricked Hashirama. I think it was it was one of those "Leave him for dead" things. They always turn out to be huge "LOLOOPS" moments.
     
         

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    Itachi

    Madara said that Konoha was off limits until Itachi died. So I am assuming that Itachi was stronger than Madara, or had the ability to hold off the Atasuke
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madara Uchiha View Post
    i think that madara fooled hashirama and the world. he is still alive which means shodaime didnt really defeat him.
    He probably didnt get his eye hurt to have the mask on. I tihnk for some reason he is fused with obito and has only one eye for now.
    ALso obito died in the hidden grass, zetsus village so that also supports this. And madara couldnt have possibly lived with his body for 200 years so he had to do something.
    Madara is too strong to be defeated by some1 like hashirama.
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    madara you was defeated but you survived
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by SupremeSpoiler View Post
    State Your Insights And Some Ideas That Happened On The Battle Of Uchiha Madara And Hashirama Senju..

    For Me..I Think Something Happened In That Battle That All Of Us Did Not Know..Maybe Senju Defeated Madara By Plucking His Left Eye Out To Disable The Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan..Thus Makes Tobi Now Wears A Mask With Only The Right Eye Visible..

    And Further Do We Know That Harashima Senju Has The Unique Ability To Control A Bijuu At His Own Will..And That Ability Was Enhanced By His Crystalized Necklace Which Tsunade Wears Now..Remember That Orochimaru Deeply Coveted This Power And He Splited The Tissues Of Senju And Implanted It To His Subject So That He Can Attain The Bijuu Control And Mokuton Techniques..But His Subjects Failed..Only One Survived Thus He Is Yamato..And Yamato Is A Great Skilled Ninja Who Has Mokuton Techniques, Sealing Techniques And Altering The Bijuu Chakra Influenced By Its Host
    She gave the necklace to naruto.. If im not mistaken ^^
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuuzaki View Post
    She gave the necklace to naruto.. If im not mistaken ^^
    that's true, Naruto has the necklace now.

    About Madara and Hashimara, don't you guys remember the fight Naruto-Sasuke?
    I think that the fight between Madara and the First could ended up the same, maybe Hashimara Forgived Madara's life.



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    no the first wanted the uchihas dead bcoz they were strong
     
         

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    Hashirama Senju had the counter to Madara's ultimate weapon.. the fox. I think we'll find something out later, but it is also a possibility that he spared Madara.
     
         

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    all i know its that the 1st beat maadara, he thought he had killed but maadara survived somewhere. He went into hiding somewhere waiting for his chance to strike against konoha
     
         

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    Madara is a chump jajajajajajajajajajaja

    that why he needs a gang and the demons to take out
    the leaf village jajajaja
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sage106 View Post
    all i know its that the 1st beat maadara, he thought he had killed but maadara survived somewhere. He went into hiding somewhere waiting for his chance to strike against konoha
    he was hidin in the hidden mist and later bcome the mizukage

    Quote Originally Posted by sandshark View Post
    Hashirama Senju had the counter to Madara's ultimate weapon.. the fox. I think we'll find something out later, but it is also a possibility that he spared Madara.
    the first controled the fox. he had an ability to control demons
     
         
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    i will never think of this show as A>B>C, CUZ IT ISN'T. i think shodaime did defeat madara but madara escaped. plus madara is probably semi-weak at the moment in the manga because itachi said hes a pathetic shell of his former self(somewhere around those lines). and in my opinion out of the 5 hokages from strongest to weakest [4th, 3rd, 1st, 2nd, 5th]. we know tht 3rd was probably stronger than the 1st, but that DOESN'T mean that the 3rd could have defeated madara. i think shodaime defeated madara cuz he had the *unique* ability to stop kyuubi and his water jutsu beats madaras fire jutsu. so thats 2-zip, shodai. but yes shodai beat madara making everyone think he was dead but madara escaped somehow.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akira_Tao View Post
    that's true, Naruto has the necklace now.

    About Madara and Hashimara, don't you guys remember the fight Naruto-Sasuke?
    I think that the fight between Madara and the First could ended up the same, maybe Hashimara Forgived Madara's life.



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    Yeah Maybe There Is A Similarity To The Fight..Remember That Harashima Has Kyuubi Control..Maybe That Is The Power That Can Defeat Uchiha Madara..And Remember That Naruto Doesn't Have That Kind Of Ability..To Control The Full Power Of The Demon Fox..Maybe It Has A Connection To The Power That Itachi Gave To Naruto..The Power To Control The Fox
     
         

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    i dont think that madara is tobi and the mizukage AND obito.
     
         

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    dude i have this huge theoary on how kakashi will 'grow" k i think that madra has obitis body (hence: zetsu) and thats why zetsu and madra are so close and if u think about it the grass village cuald have been created by madra (hence:the war during kakashi gieden) k when madra tries to destroy the village he meets with kakashi and kakashi sees that madra is the reason y he lost so manny ppl (his dad died from a mission regarding grass village so did obiti) and then kakashi goes insane and nearly kills madra untill madra says

    "for genarations real uchihas have killed there best friends forpower lets see if u got the guts to but ur sharingan to the real test" (or something like that he kills all his emotions and gets so close to killing him
    untill he has a flashback of obiti saying those who abandon there friends are trash but those who dont are even worse trash and lets himm live as tears fall from his face madra gets up and gets killed by other ninja kakashi tried to stop them but it was 2 late the last remains of "friendship" was broken

    tell me what u guys think
     
         

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    did u know that he first also had hercualn strenght
    madras stated eh was on top of the shinobi world
    although we did not see much drugin the fight with orchimaur
    the 1st is inndeed strong
    and i don't think we should doubt th 5th jsut yet
    she does after all carry senju blood and my be holding it
    jyriya even quoted her being the reason y they won 1 of the great shinboi wars
     
         

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