[Discussion] Eight Chakra Gate Manipulation

[psukkar]

I have posted this before a long time ago, just wanted to put to rest all the things the naruto community seem to get wrong about this powerup.

Introduction

The Eight Gates are eight specific points on a person's Chakra Pathway System. They limit the chakra flow to the tenketsu(361 holes,Width of a needle) scattered all over your body. This makes the body much weaker, but the limit is there to stop deteriorating the body with excess chakra flow. Opening the gates, the user can surpass their own physical limits at the cost of extreme damage to their own bodies. Just like sage mode opening the chakra gates amplifies one's attributes, the stronger/faster naturally you are the more potent the results will be when the gates are opened. Also enhancing your natural stamina would allow the user to maintain the opened gate for longer periods of time and the recovery time afterwards will be quicker(As seen by Gai after the Kisame clone encounter he recovered quite quickly considering he opened 6/8 gates). This is why we see Gai and Lee go through intense physical training regimes to take advantage as much as possible of the strength/speed boosts when opening the chakra gates.

If all eight gates are opened this will grant the user power greater than a kage but this has a high chance of resulting in death.http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...5/page010.html

NOTE:The aura around the user IS NOT CHAKRA, unlike Naruto and killerbee their cloak modes are EXTERNAL of their body made up of chakra from their tailed beast. Eight chakra gate manipulation causes a powerful chakra flow INTERNALLY within the body. This was Gai's trump card against Kisame who absorbs chakra to get the upper hand in this fights, but he got matched up against the wrong person when it came to Gai.http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/ch...7/page005.html

(1) Initial Gate

As it's located in the brain it removes the restraints the brain has on the body.

Unlocking this gate allows the user to use the Front Lotus. The Front Lotus gives the user five times their normal physical strength. The user launches the opponent into the air(via Shadow of the Dancing Leaf epic in itself), once behind the opponent the user restrains them and piledrives them into the ground headfirst while rotating at a ferocious speed.

(2) Heal Gate

Also located in the brain, this further forcibly increases one's physical strength and temporary heals the body.

(3) Life Gate

located on the spinal cord and increases blood flow to the muscles to allow your muscles to be pushed to the limits for chakra gates 4 and 5. The increased blood flow turns the users skin dark red. At this point a green aura(not chakra) can be visually seen around the users body.

The user is able to use the Reverse Lotus, this an advanced and more destructive version of the Front Lotus. Which requires at least three chakra gates be opened but in every instance in which it has been used, five gates are opened probably to make use of the muscle enhancements in chakra gates 4 and 5 to make the technique even more destructive.

This is usually fatal due to the speed and power behind the attack but because so many chakra gates are opened at once it potentially only can be used once, since the user will mostly likely be unable to stand afterwards. But Gai has shown through intense physical training such drawbacks can be avoided.

(4) Harm Gate

Located on the spinal cord and increases the user's speed(via their muscles) and aura(still green). This may cause muscle tissue to tear depending how well the muscles are developed. This another case where Gai has avoided this drawback through intense physical training. For example when lee opened this gate(during the chuuin exams) his muscles teared while Gai on the other hand opened the sixth gate(basically a more potent version of the 4th gate) and was physically unharmed, he only experienced exhaustion due to the stamina loss.

(5) Forest gate

Located in the abdomen and further increases the user's speed and aura(still green). Normally the reverse lotus is now executed for best results.

(6) View Gate

Located in the stomach and further increases the user's speed and aura (still green). The aura and speed increases are now very significant at this point, such that large amounts of nearby water bodies can form a vortex around the user.

Gai's movements were supersonic(speed of sound in air) no were near as fast the wrap speed from time-space techniques(Speed of light) but definitely this is one the fastest physical movement we have seen in the series to date. Gai more or less covered half the animal island in a matter of seconds.

Due to the extreme speeds the users movements are so fast they set ablaze from the friction in the air. This allows the user to perform the Morning Peacock, the Morning Peacock is more or a less a certain-kill if you connect. The user launches the victim in the air then jumps into the air in a distinctive stance and begins punching the enemy repeatedly. This creates a peacock-like fan of flames around the opponent. Once the attack is finished, the enemy will be sent crashing back to the ground, covered with the attack's aura.

(7) Wonder Gate

Located below the stomach and further increases the user's speed and a blue aura. Most likely the speed and aura boosts are even more significant than the previous gate. Gai hasn't shown us how fast/strong he is in the 7th gate as of yet.

The user is able to use Daytime Tiger, the flames caused my Gai's movements look like a tiger. Gai also says this technique makes the morning peacock nothing in comparison and says this a one hit kill. The resulted explosion of this was half the size of the animal island.

The drawbacks from this gate are very serious as even Gai who was only affected stamina wise with the previous gate experienced physical damage such as muscles tears to the point where contact with Gai's body will cause great pain.

(8) Death Gate

located at the heart, releasing this gate uses up all of the body's energy. It makes the heart pump at maximum power and exceeds the power of every other gate. Obviously the speed and aura boosts will be off the charts again, also the color may change also other than that we can't speculate more about the gate.

On a different note I'm pretty sure the move you do when you open the 8th will have a "evening" in the name. Because there's a very high chance of dying when you open the 8th gate the symbolism of Morning, Afternoon and Evening symbolizes your day has come so to speak. I think this is the symbolism kishi is using with the eight gates or at least with Gai anyway. Also the flames from the moves for gates 6,7 and 8 match well with Gai and Lee's firey youth philosophy.

I guess the only question is, Evening "what"?
I think it will be Evening "Dragon".

Also the aura around Gai changed from green (gates 3-6) to blue for gate 7.
What do you think the aura's colour will be for gate 8?
I'm thinking the aura this time will cause a red glow. A red glow while dishing out a massive dragon made out of pure flames will be OMG epic, very fitting if this is how you gonna die, don't you think.

Conclusion

All the times we've seen someone open the gates it just said the gate was opened and they get ready for the next gate if needs be. But do you think the user can control how much the gate opens? For example instead of simply opening the gate completely(100%) can you open it at 50%. I think this would allow the user maintain chakra gate manipulation for longer periods of time which can be important against an opponents of similar strength and speed in which case the fight will be prolonged, so far most the opponents have been completely overwhelmed and the fight quickly ends.

Rock Lee is able to open the 1-5 gates before the time skip, he may be able to open more now after the time skip. Also Lee's respective moves in the 6th,7th and 8th gates they may not be the same as Gai's. It seems to me the user can utilize the speed and strength in different ways and Gai may just wanted to show off the heat from his speed in different ways like a peacock fan, tiger etc..

Kakashi can open at least one gate, as shown during Kakashi's one-handed rock climbing where a shot of his brain shows the relevant point activating, as well as in his usage of the Front Lotus. But its pretty obvious at this point he doesn't use it for combat like Gai does. This is mostly likely due to his low stamina and has a hard time recovering if opened the higher level gates(4 and onwards). Kakashi did also mentioned you need to be "genius(whatever that means)" to open the 5th gate.

Might Guy, who taught Lee the skill, is able to open at least seven. He by the far is the best user and seems to be able to recover very well from the stamina loss and not physically injuring himself. It would be interesting to know what his 8th gate can do. But he would mostly likely die, although we really don't know 100% you would die, it not like we have seen anyone open the eighth gate or has anyone for that matter. Maybe no one really knows what happens when you open the eighth gate. It's possible shinobi assumed given what the 7th gate's drawbacks, they imagined you would most likely die if you opened the 8th gate.

So far there hasn't been any mention as to where or who/clan etc.. started chakra gate manipulation. Gai is haled as the taijutsu specialist of Konoha, and Gai and Rock lee are the only ones who really use this for combat.

But for some reason it seems to me this would be a great addition to Byakugan users. Most Byakugan users are taijutsu specialists anyway thanks to the Byakugan and by far have the greatest chakra control of their tenketsu(also due the byukan), which incidentally the chakra gates control the chakra flow to the tenketsu. It sure would be great to see what the Byakugan users can do with the chakra gates.

[spade3dg]

Guy can open all eight. He said so when he and kakashi were deciding on a plan to fight the tailed beast.

[ItachiLeeHatake]

The first long thread I've ever completely read. I love Guy and the Eight Gates are so interesting. And nice theory on the 8th Gate's special move *****

[markdabomb22]

I read though it and great thread bro *****

[psukkar]

yea thanks for reading guys, I know its long but I really posted it to help another thread. This has been posted before by me. but I guess new readers can see it so thats good.

[Sarutobi Sasuke]

Great thread dude. A very nice read. You've outdone yourself. *****

[psukkar]

Guy can open all eight. He said so when he and kakashi were deciding on a plan to fight the tailed beast.

does anyone fight it strange that gai knows he can open the 8th gate.

how could u know u can open the 8th gate if ur dead?


I believe there is more do with the 8 gates.

[Imperius]

***** for effort

[Aze]

8 Gates power was sayed to be = stronger than = 5 Kages combined = but for a very short time (minutes).

[' ~ Dantee ~ ']

Wonder gate located in the private area Xd.

[Simplified]

Awesome thread. It goes morning peacock, afternoon tiger correct? Too lazy to scroll up. My guess would also be evening dragon, or maybe lion? anyway I love Lee and Gai so I thank you for this thread.

[psukkar]

Wonder gate located in the private area Xd.

lol


I wanted to add to this to the OP.


Kahashi doesnt know for sure and asked Gai , dont u die if open the 8th gate? and Gai agrees more or less by saying what other option do we have.

Does anyone fight it strange that gai knows he can open the 8th gate.

how could u know u can open the 8th gate if ur dead?

I believe there is more do with the 8 gates.

[Dean-Winchester]

i was acutally thinking neji can combine gentle fist with eight gates

[Dean-Winchester]

lol


I wanted to add to this to the OP.


Kahashi doesnt know for sure and asked Gai , dont u die if open the 8th gate? and Gai agrees more or less by saying what other option do we have.

Does anyone fight it strange that gai knows he can open the 8th gate.

how could u know u can open the 8th gate if ur dead?

I believe there is more do with the 8 gates.

and another thing who was the 1st eight gate user how do they know?

[Chode]

very nice thread I will post more on this topic in the morning

[psukkar]

and another thing who was the 1st eight gate user how do they know?

exactly what is the 8 gate history in the world?


I speculated maybe the byugan users were the frist ones given their specialty with taijutsu and being one of the oldest clans in konoha.

[Dean-Winchester]

lol


I wanted to add to this to the OP.


Kahashi doesnt know for sure and asked Gai , dont u die if open the 8th gate? and Gai agrees more or less by saying what other option do we have.

Does anyone fight it strange that gai knows he can open the 8th gate.

how could u know u can open the 8th gate if ur dead?

I believe there is more do with the 8 gates.

exactly what is the 8 gate history in the world?


I speculated maybe the byugan users were the frist ones given their specialty with taijutsu and being one of the oldest clans in konoha.

yea and acutally guren a filler character for a short time i think she activated the 8th gate to damage the thee tails......
will post more after research good thread ....it beats a madra thread or tobi threads.....

[p0002q]

The first long thread I've ever completely read. I love Guy and the Eight Gates are so interesting. And nice theory on the 8th Gate's special move *****

2600+ posts.. and "1st long thread to completely read".

The info posted was less than 2 pages of a school text book........

Anways, I wouln't go on about the lazy, common people on NB.



@ psukkar - nice read! *****.


I remember when I first read about the gates and it reminded me of stories when men and women can perform crazy displays of strength.

Like a woman lifting a car off her kid to save them, etc.

They do say that humans can only use 20-30% of their muscles absolute strength