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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 594 Discussion and 595 Predictions

    Tobi is nothing other than a body split of Madara. I dont see why nobody thinks this because Muu was able to use that tech so why couldnt Madara who posessed the ems and rinnegan somehow be able to copy and use that same technique before he died. Tobi and Madara both have the same memories and the same goals. we saw that Tobis arm and leg is damaged which was probably battle wounds from the fighting the 1st hokage. I would bet half my $k to someone that its true. I could be wrong though.
     
         

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    There are a lot of things that aren't fully "confirmed" in naruto. For example, we thought tobi was confirmed to be Madara at first but it turned out to be false. At this point, Kishi can pull out any plot twist he wants and then create a random excuse to justify it.

    I don't support the obito theory because of the amount of "grey" points to it, its a basic theory which lacks complex insight. Similar names, abilities and eyes are there to probably fool the majority of fans.

    I don't support "one" theory but see tobi as a mixture of possible things. Currently I am positive that tobi has experimented the use of zetsu through his own body, as seen through his arm "melting" like a white zetsu would in two instances. One against danzou's henchmen and the second being against minato. Next, I believe tobi must have a link with madara's dna or chakra. People of the top class such as Minato, Itachi, kakashi, kisame etc were all fooled into believing he was Madara Uchiha even Kurama (kyuubi/9 tails) didn't notice the difference! But Im sure they wouldn't rely on just a guess, he must have a strong feel or resemblance to that of Madara. When nagato uses rinne rebirth to revive the dead konoha people, tobi had stated that "that technique was supposed to be used for him". Tobi is alive, why would he need to be revived? Maybe it was incase he died? Or maybe "him" is his Madara-like personality talking.

    I think Tobi is suffering from a identity-crisis he isn't sure who he is anymore. If there's a theory I most prefer, it must be the Izuna theory that many of you have been disproving. Yes the manga has said Izuna gave/lost his eyes to Madara which I believe to be a fact shown by Madara's eternal magenkyou but it says he later on died in battle. That was the end of the explanation, no detailed information and the subject was dropped. Normally when a subject like that is left it means there's more to it, or it isn't entirely as it seems. I doubt Izuna, who is on the same level as Madara and trained with him would die so easily. The two brothers who shared the same feelings and ideals wouldn't let their plans for the future end there. Izuna could of easily taken another sharingan from someone else or even had Madara find him some and regain his sight.

    Tobi's sharingan is always active, no matter what situation, we have never seen tobi de-activate his sharingan which strongly suggests that the sharingan he has is no his and was from someone else. Kakashi's sharingan works in the same way. Tobi has great knowledge of the Uchiha clan and the history of everything which was all written and recorded on the Uchiha tablets which could only be read with a magenkyou sharingan and then further information when achieving the eternal. Tobi is clearly someone who has seen or knows of everything on those tablets. Izuna and Madara have both possessed the magenkyou and have read the tablets. Referring back to the nagato's reviving point, nagato may of been manipulated by Madara to revive his brother in which he though was dead?

    Another point we used to think was a fact is Nagato's rinnegan was awakened by himself while he was a child and he was a sort of "chosen one". This was lately dis-proven and it turns out Madara gave him the rinnegan shortly before his death. I believe Madara knew of his impending death and decided to have nagato be the one to revive him. I have to clashing theories here I realize but its just a list of possible ways it could of gone. Who else would know so much about Madara or resembles him more than his own brother who was almost like Madara himself if you look past the appearances. Equal strength, same goals, same ambitions, same views, same knowledge, determination, ideas. They shared their own hatred for things, they shed blood together, they were perfect equals.

    During the time Madara had fought hashirama, Izuna was presumed "dead". Recently we have come to find that Hashirama is unconscious within a wall feeding into Tobi's power and those of Zetsu. Tobi attacked the village with the use of the kyuubi, he'd seen Madara's ability to control the kyuubi with the sharingan and his ideals to utilize this to attack the village and so he did the same. Both hold grudges against the village and the clan. Tobi has started to experiment with Hashirama's DNA through what he had acquired and found and must be using it to "prolong" his life, from what I've seen, I believe that hashirama can live for a long time, either due to his clan being from one of the sage's son which inherited his body and his strength. Or that they are related to the uzumaki clan which was known for long life-spans so the senju may of had enhanced abilities of that. Hashirama being "alive" and "unconscious" may link in with his DNA giving the ability of long lives which Tobi may be using to prolong his life.

    I think that is enough for people to understand from I look forward to any replies.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 594 Discussion and 595 Predictions

    I Have a feeling Tobi is Uchiha Obito or Uchiha Kagami
     
         

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    The new chapter should be epic. Like what's goin on with Sasuke and Oro, and How are the Kages gonna stop Edo Madara???
     
         

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    Tobi said: "Kakashi you always open your mouth so easily, Its no wonder you've lived a life of regret", here he sounds like he's known kakashi for a long time. He also added "You don't remember faces so what point is there in telling you", its very much possible that tobi is in fact obito or someone close to Kakashi.
     
         

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    when is naruto going to get his final victory? men, can't wait.
     
         

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    Hello. I'm quite new to this but only thing really that's got my attention, or (in a matter of speaking had gotten me startled), was that I had been reading back into the manga *Chapter 487* to be precise, and I stumbled onto this quote between Kakashi, and Tobi.

    Kakashi: "I'm taking out Madara before this goes any further!" *Kamui!*
    Tobi: Don't bother Kakashi. Techniques like that don't have any effect on me.

    My only question is that why do you think Tobi would say that towards Kakashi, and what does he mean "Kamui would not affect him?" That's very "fishy" in my opinion which leads me onto suspicion. During the part in Chapter 594 Tobi talks to Kakashi and Guy as if he knew them? The only problem is that I don't know who this'll be? Who do you guy's think Tobi might be after receiving this evidence, or to what type's of theories would this help support or fall into? Would really appreciate the responses to this. Thanks a lot! *also I couldn't post the link to the page as I haven't made a total of 10 posts.* . PM me if you guys want a link to my information. Thanks a lot :3
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 594 Discussion and 595 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by NarutoTheory View Post
    There are a lot of things that aren't fully "confirmed" in naruto. For example, we thought tobi was confirmed to be Madara at first but it turned out to be false. At this point, Kishi can pull out any plot twist he wants and then create a random excuse to justify it.

    I don't support the obito theory because of the amount of "grey" points to it, its a basic theory which lacks complex insight. Similar names, abilities and eyes are there to probably fool the majority of fans.

    I don't support "one" theory but see tobi as a mixture of possible things. Currently I am positive that tobi has experimented the use of zetsu through his own body, as seen through his arm "melting" like a white zetsu would in two instances. One against danzou's henchmen and the second being against minato. Next, I believe tobi must have a link with madara's dna or chakra. People of the top class such as minato, tobi, kakashi, kisame etc were all fooled into believing he was Madara uchiha, but Im sure they wouldn't rely on just a guess, he must have a strong feel or resemblance to that of Madara. When nagato uses rinne rebirth to revive the dead konoha people, tobi had stated that "that technique was supposed to be used for him". Tobi is alive, why would he need to be revived? Maybe it was incase he died? Or maybe "him" is his Madara-like personality talking.

    I think Tobi is suffering from a identity-crisis he isn't sure who he is anymore. If there's a theory I most prefer, it must be the Izuna theory that many of you have been disproving. Yes the manga has said Izuna gave/lost his eyes to Madara which I believe to be a fact shown by Madara's eternal magenkyou but it says he later on died in battle. That was the end of the explanation, no detailed information and the subject was dropped. Normally when a subject like that is left it means there's more to it, or it isn't entirely as it seems. I doubt Izuna, who is on the same level as Madara and trained with him would die so easily. The two brothers who shared the same feelings and ideals wouldn't let their plans for the future end there. Izuna could of easily taken another sharingan from someone else or even had Madara find him some and regain his sight.

    Tobi's sharingan is always active, no matter what situation, we have never seen tobi de-activate his sharingan which strongly suggests that the sharingan he has is no his and was from someone else. Kakashi's sharingan works in the same way. Tobi has great knowledge of the Uchiha clan and the history of everything which was all written and recorded on the Uchiha tablets which could only be read with a magenkyou sharingan and then further information when achieving the eternal. Tobi is clearly someone who has seen or knows of everything on those tablets. Izuna and Madara have both possessed the magenkyou and have read the tablets. Referring back to the nagato's reviving point, nagato may of been manipulated by Madara to revive his brother in which he though was dead?

    Another point we used to think was a fact is Nagato's rinnegan was awakened by himself while he was a child and he was a sort of "chosen one". This was lately dis-proven and it turns out Madara gave him the rinnegan shortly before his death. I believe Madara knew of his impending death and decided to have nagato be the one to revive him. I have to clashing theories here I realize but its just a list of possible ways it could of gone. Who else would know so much about Madara or resembles him more than his own brother who was almost like Madara himself if you look past the appearances. Equal strength, same goals, same ambitions, same views, same knowledge, determination, ideas. They shared their own hatred for things, they shed blood together, they were perfect equals.

    During the time Madara had fought hashirama, Izuna was presumed "dead". Recently we have come to find that Hashirama is unconscious within a wall feeding into Tobi's power and those of Zetsu. Tobi attacked the village with the use of the kyuubi, he'd seen Madara's ability to control the kyuubi with the sharingan and his ideals to utilize this to attack the village and so he did the same. Both hold grudges against the village and the clan. Tobi has started to experiment with Hashirama's DNA through what he had acquired and found and must be using it to "prolong" his life, from what I've seen, I believe that hashirama can live for a long time, either due to his clan being from one of the sage's son which inherited his body and his strength. Or that they are related to the uzumaki clan which was known for long life-spans so the senju may of had enhanced abilities of that. Hashirama being "alive" and "unconscious" may link in with his DNA giving the ability of long lives which Tobi may be using to prolong his life.

    I think that is enough for people to understand from I look forward to any replies.

    This makes perfect sense to me. I think that Tobi could be either Izuna or a Madara clone.

    To add to your list, Kyuubi even says that he is familiar with the eyes that he was later controlled with. This to me was dead giveaway to Kishi's further plan, in that Tobi is either Madara or very closely related (Izuna).

    Sauske's father doesn't fall into this category, imo. Although I could totally see Kishi pulling something out of his butt and saying that Sauske's grandfather is Madara.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 594 Discussion and 595 Predictions

    Oh boy cant wait for tomorrow unless Kishi trolls again -.-
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 594 Discussion and 595 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by squigles View Post
    1. A 'plot hole' is a part of a story that is explicit in it's content, but contradicts another part of the manga. If Izuna is still alive, and it turns out that he's Tobi, then it's not a plot hole, and here's why:

    You've actually done the opposite. You're sitting here ignoring factual evidence that Obito is dead, insisting that it's possible for him to be Tobi, on a wild hunch. Then you're asserting that Tobi couldn't be Izuna because there's some sort of factual evidence that proves he's dead (which there is not).

    Your views are backwards for obvious reasons. It's completely possible (based on manga evidence) that Izuna could be Tobi.
    Did you even read the quoted portion of what I wrote? I said that it WASN'T a plot hole, yet you're debating me as if I said it was a plot hole.

    Second, what have you been reading all this time? All I've been doing is disproving the Obito theory. Why in the world would you think that I'm ignoring factual data. I just made a whole thread on this:
    http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=216781

    I said it's still "possible" by some miracle because no one saw Obito died. That's literally the only reason to believe it's still theoretically possible for him to still be alive. In Izuna's case, we were told that he was dead (despite who it came from). Tobi may have lied as well. I understand this, but I'm not going to ignore it because it may sound sketchy. Right now I'm taking Tobi's account as the real thing and will adjust if it turns out to be false. That's the process of turning a theory into fact. Just because you're skeptical of Tobi's word doesn't mean we have to automatically assume Izuna is alive or discount anything else he's said. He has told the truth ya know. I never said he couldn't be alive for sure. But the FACT is that we were told he is dead. I never said that him BEING dead was the fact. Obito was not TOLD to be dead. We only conclude that from other facts. But because we still don't know the whole story there's still a possibility.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 594 Discussion and 595 Predictions

    nice chapter
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 594 Discussion and 595 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by vUmbrav View Post
    Did you even read the quoted portion of what I wrote? I said that it WASN'T a plot hole, yet you're debating me as if I said it was a plot hole.

    Second, what have you been reading all this time? All I've been doing is disproving the Obito theory. Why in the world would you think that I'm ignoring factual data. I just made a whole thread on this:
    http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=216781

    I said it's still "possible" by some miracle because no one saw Obito died. That's literally the only reason to believe it's still theoretically possible for him to still be alive. In Izuna's case, we were told that he was dead (despite who it came from). Tobi may have lied as well. I understand this, but I'm not going to ignore it because it may sound sketchy. Right now I'm taking Tobi's account as the real thing and will adjust if it turns out to be false. That's the process of turning a theory into fact. Just because you're skeptical of Tobi's word doesn't mean we have to automatically assume Izuna is alive or discount anything else he's said. He has told the truth ya know. I never said he couldn't be alive for sure. But the FACT is that we were told he is dead. I never said that him BEING dead was the fact. Obito was not TOLD to be dead. We only conclude that from other facts. But because we still don't know the whole story there's still a possibility.
    So far we are down to about 7 possibilities.

    Izuna
    Eldest Son of So6P
    Zetsu-something
    Part of Madara
    Kagami
    Obito
    Other

    I listed it in order of likeliness in my opinion. It could be any of them, but i think it is more likely to be Izuna than, say, Kagami, and more likely to be Eldest son than Obito, and more likely to be Obito than some random name we haven't heard yet.
     
         

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    In following manga chapters, i think we are really close to finding who tobi is, if tobi abilities are revealed. We havent really seen him in battle, if he doesnt appears to be tough as he is thought to be, i will go with obito theory. I hope not.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 594 Discussion and 595 Predictions

    Cool chapter
    Come on 595 come out already Pleaase
     
         

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    Did you even read the quoted portion of what I wrote? I said that it WASN'T a plot hole, yet you're debating me as if I said it was a plot hole.
    No where did I say that you did. I was clarifying what a plot hole is, in order to contrast it to the rest of my post.

    Second, what have you been reading all this time? All I've been doing is disproving the Obito theory. Why in the world would you think that I'm ignoring factual data. I just made a whole thread on this:
    http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=216781
    Why would I go looking for other threads you've posted in? All I know is that you're arguing with another poster here in this thread that it's possible for Obito to still be alive but not Izuna. Why would you do that if you weren't trying to assert that Obito could be Tobi?

    I said it's still "possible" by some miracle because no one saw Obito died. That's literally the only reason to believe it's still theoretically possible for him to still be alive.
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/243/12
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/243/13
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/243/14
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/244/7
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/244/8
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/244/9

    Obito and Kakashi save rin. Cave collapses, crushing Obito with big ****ing rocks. Kakashi and Rin escape just before the rest of the cave comes down on Obito, do you honestly think he lived through that?

    If you do, you're a moron.

    In Izuna's case, we were told that he was dead (despite who it came from). Tobi may have lied as well. I understand this, but I'm not going to ignore it because it may sound sketchy.
    Tobi also said he was Madara Uchiha for the longest time, which turned out to be a lie. We did not see Izuna die, we were told that it happened. So for all intents and purposes, we can treat it as though it never happened.

    Cuz that's how evidence works. The claim is that Izuna is dead. Until we have evidence to support that claim, we shouldn't believe it.
     
         

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