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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by psukkar View Post
    whats so hard to understand?


    tobi actually has the items so therefore if have the items themselve u can control what they seal.


    The fox was talking about getting the souls in general matter like trying to reivive them or summon them or what ever.

    But if u actually have the items themselves u have control of what gets sealed into it so therefore u have control what goes out as well.


    why do u think tobi went out of his way to get these items?



    So are you F'ing telling me that you believe Itachi could have unsealed anyone sealed in his sword just because he had the sword? Or that anyone that controls the Death God Jutsu could bring back those souls too?!?!? WTF
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    logic in naruto was thrown the day , itachi used tsukiyomi on kakashi.
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Grasiano View Post
    Remember we are talking about a pot and a bottle. Mabye Tobi just took the lids off.


    Maybe.


    But my point was the fact that Karuma said they have no way out of the seal. And alot of people assumed once your sealed you can not be unsealed. Just seeing if Kishi is Trolling or a misunderstanding of what Karuma meant on my behalf.
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Death reaper and a pot are two completely different things.
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Stop taking such things seriously,grow up!!!
    Just let it go and forget about it okay

    Kurama literally meant that if a person is sealed in it,he cant get out on his own.But the seal can be released from the outside
     
         
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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    OMG is everyone really that dense?

    Kurama was saying that once your sealed, you cant get out. He meant that you cant escape from the seal.

    That doesnt mean that the seal cant be released.... :sy:
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by BarBoBot View Post
    OMG is everyone really that dense?

    Kurama was saying that once your sealed, you cant get out. He meant that you cant escape from the seal.

    That doesnt mean that the seal cant be released.... :sy:
    Not only that but the Hokages are sealed within the death reaper so its different.
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by MilwaukeegHost View Post
    The title says it all.












    Look at the Manga page below... specifically referring to the Treasured Tools of the Sage of the Six Paths that Tobi has in his possession:



    Karuma (who lived with the Sage himself) says:

    "They have the power to strongly seal away anything. WHATEVER GOES IN CAN NEVER COME OUT, NO MATTER WHAT..."


    ...does anyone see where I'm going with this...? How in the world is Tobi able to utilize the beings inside of a "sealed" container, unless it is able to reverse the effects of the sealing technique...? And does this apply to all sealing techniques? If not, why???


    Last note. When the Raikages had the Purifying Pot, after temporarily sealing the 8 Tails they were always able to eventually "unleash" the 8 Tails when it was time to try and turn it into a Jinchurriki again. How is this possible if Kishi originally implies that anything sealed can never be unsealed?


    Your theories please.
    Ummm... How does this imply that the sealing could be reversed?

    You are jumping to conclusions here. First of all just because the pot was absorbed by GZ doesn't mean that the contents came out of the pot. There's no reason to assume that it's necessary to release Kin/Gin for it to work, especially considering that all it needs is chakra.

    The Hachibi thing is probably a moot point. As others have said you're taking too much out of a few sentences, which people tend to do with mangas. Even if it was a contradiction I just don't see the point in making anything out of it.
     
         
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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Necromancer4276 View Post
    Jesus christ people. It's just a saying. Stop taking every single sentence literally. Amaterasu is not as hot as the sun and clearly you can unseal things from it. Just let it go.
    This +Rep
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    a seal is a lock so with a key you can open it and without it you can break it. this is a seal that can not be broken they used a key to unseal it its much like the seal in naruto's body. what went in cant get out unless he opens the gate him self
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by naruto1246 View Post
    i think he meant nothing can break out of the seal but it can be unsealed by someone on the outside
    this^
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kage Phoenix View Post
    <.< maybe Kishi forgot
    nah he just has a lot of plot holes.

    OT: Nice plot hole, there are still more to be found.
    Quote Originally Posted by naruto1246 View Post
    i think he meant nothing can break out of the seal but it can be unsealed by someone on the outside
    idc what u said but nice nami sig. :D
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Simply minded ppl.... First of all when the 9 tails was say they was sealed he was talking about when Darui sealed them , the never got seal before that reread it and if you have common sense you will get it if not then your just slow
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by BarBoBot View Post
    OMG is everyone really that dense?

    Kurama was saying that once your sealed, you cant get out. He meant that you cant escape from the seal.

    That doesnt mean that the seal cant be released.... :sy:
    ^^^^ exactly this
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by naruto1246 View Post
    i think he meant nothing can break out of the seal but it can be unsealed by someone on the outside
    Exactly What I was thinking. People just want to find flaws so they can think they know something, calm down people with this troll business here's an ice cream cone :ice:
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by MilwaukeegHost View Post
    So are you F'ing telling me that you believe Itachi could have unsealed anyone sealed in his sword just because he had the sword? Or that anyone that controls the Death God Jutsu could bring back those souls too?!?!? WTF
    ofcourse they can, becauce technically theirs arent soul in the pure world.

    Everythinmg has its limits, the death god would be no differemt just like any othetr jutsu. Just because we dont what the jutsu really does doesnt mean its takes a soul forver.


    What about the fox's chakra the death god took? is that permant too? the juubi will have something to say about that.

    I actually believe their will come a point in the series where the hokage souls stuck in the death god will be released via the death god jutsu in some way.

    Its fitting heroes like hokages rest in peace.

    Do u rea;;y thinlk there's a jutsu out there that controls death itself? the death god jutsu was jutsu created by man and man doesnt govern life and death we are simply are part of it.


    regarding of the genjutsu sword? what do we really know about it? how can someone claim its sealed forever? u watch when we find out more about these legendary items nothing is without flaws in the naruto world.

    I think the so6p dying despite being able to use his creatiobn jutsu is clear example of this, despite how powerful soimethings appears to us the readers there will always be limits otherwise whats the point of setting limits for some jutsu and not all. For example the wind rasengan is powerful but can damage the user too.

    The sage weapons are powerful but drain ur chakra, the legendary katana sword orovihmaru has is said peice anything yet it did nothing to naruto in fox mode... ETC... etc... itachi once said no one can break the tuki genjutsu then we saw hosts break it like nothing.


    nothing is unbeatable, that is the theme of this series, embrace it dude thats why it has loyal flllowing.
     
         
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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    every jutsu has a weakness so I guess that's it
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by psukkar View Post
    ofcourse they can, becauce technically theirs arent soul in the pure world.

    Everythinmg has its limits, the death god would be no differemt just like any othetr jutsu. Just because we dont what the jutsu really does doesnt mean its takes a soul forver.


    What about the fox's chakra the death god took? is that permant too? the juubi will have something to say about that.

    I actually believe their will come a point in the series where the hokage souls stuck in the death god will be released via the death god jutsu in some way.

    Its fitting heroes like hokages rest in peace.

    Do u rea;;y thinlk there's a jutsu out there that controls death itself? the death god jutsu was jutsu created by man and man doesnt govern life and death we are simply are part of it.


    regarding of the genjutsu sword? what do we really know about it? how can someone claim its sealed forever? u watch when we find out more about these legendary items nothing is without flaws in the naruto world.

    I think the so6p dying despite being able to use his creatiobn jutsu is clear example of this, despite how powerful soimethings appears to us the readers there will always be limits otherwise whats the point of setting limits for some jutsu and not all. For example the wind rasengan is powerful but can damage the user too.

    The sage weapons are powerful but drain ur chakra, the legendary katana sword orovihmaru has is said peice anything yet it did nothing to naruto in fox mode... ETC... etc... itachi once said no one can break the tuki genjutsu then we saw hosts break it like nothing.


    nothing is unbeatable, that is the theme of this series, embrace it dude thats why it has loyal flllowing.







    ****. Your absolutely right. This post I can actually agree with. Kishi trolls and will do what he wants regardless of what is said in the Manga. Reppp +
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    let me explain.

    When you seal something away its meant to be gone permanently. Hence, when someone/thing is sealed in the pot, its implied that it will remain in the pot unable to escape. Thats what Kurama meant. Whats inside can never escape, it can only be released, kinda like jail.

    Dont get me wrong, Kishimoto is full of bullshit, and inconsistency, but in this case, he was right.

    As for the Dead Demon seal, since basically, to seal w/e you make a contract with it, Im sure the hokages can be brought back if you somehow make a good enough deal
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    i agree with the creator of the thread in every way.
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Necromancer4276 View Post
    Jesus christ people. It's just a saying. Stop taking every single sentence literally. Amaterasu is not as hot as the sun and clearly you can unseal things from it. Just let it go.
    -The jet-black flames of the Amaterasu, said to be the fires from hell that are as hot as the sun, ignite at the focus of the user's vision.-
    If you don't like it, find some where that says it's not.( can't argue with facts)
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Sigh...No wonder Naruto manga will be going for 2 more years
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    1st Edo tensei was kabutos doing so he would have been he one to unseal the silver gold bros

    2nd I'm sure their is a way to unseal sealed ppl
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    So the OP is saying if you feed the shinigami to the gedo mazo then 3 hokages will jump out of its mouth...
     
         

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    Re: Troll Kishi just proved that the Hokages can be unsealed !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by MilwaukeegHost View Post
    ****. Your absolutely right. This post I can actually agree with. Kishi trolls and will do what he wants regardless of what is said in the Manga. Reppp +
    sorry for not getting back to this thread,

    thanks for rep.

    I personally dont call it kishi trolls, because kishi writes the manga as if we are a part of the world he created.

    So if one character has a opinion and says oh I think this guy is the strongest then someone else says oh no hes the best. It shows kishi has made his characters have opinions.

    For example, Izuka says the third hokage is the strongest hokage, then we see madara and various other much older charcters than Izuka in the series show tremendous respect to hasihrama.Is this kishi trolling?
    Ofc not, it just people need to immerse themselves in the naruto world and and understand that Izuka has a opinion on whos the storngest and madara has a opinion.

    Kishi's characters lie, speculate, etc... Its all part of the show. Its really is a world kishi has created with complex interactions with its characters.

    I'm in the minority camp that kishi hasnt actually trolled once in any of his chapters, but thats just me.
     
         

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