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    Deidara vs Sasori

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    • Location: Sasuke vs Deidara.

    • Restrictions: C0.

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    - Gian is fodder level.

    - Chouji is more badass than Kakuzu.

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    Who wins?
     
         

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    Re: Deidara vs Sasori

    ... Current Sasuke?
     
         

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    Re: Deidara vs Sasori

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    ... Current Sasuke?
    Stfu, m8.
     
         

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    Re: Deidara vs Sasori

    Sasori is going to be winning this with high difficulties.

    • Both opponents are capable of flight.
    • Deidara's C4 is a non-factor here.
    • Iron Sand World is pretty much a perfect trap against Deidara in the air.
    • Sasori needs to only scratch Deidara to win; Deidara needs to destroy his core which is capable of being swapped out.
     
         

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    Re: Deidara vs Sasori

    Will have to somewhat disagree this time, Billy Willy. Until you prove me wrong or I prove you wrong.

    - Explosions are capable of demagnetizing Iron Sand.

    - Without a Iron Sand dome, Sasori would get bombarded by Deidara.

    - C1 bird is capable of evading Sasori's attacks unless it's something like ISWO which can be demagnetized before it spreads and depending from what side it is coming from, Deidara can escape via his bird by either flying up or left/right.

    - Deidara is very well aware of Sasori's core.

    - C3 pretty much nukes.
     
         

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    Re: Deidara vs Sasori

    The manga portrayed Sasori to be superior, but i have to disagree. Personally, i don't see how Sasori comes close to winning this match.
     
         

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    Re: Deidara vs Sasori

    Quote Originally Posted by AkatsukiChurch View Post
    Will have to somewhat disagree this time, Billy Willy. Until you prove me wrong or I prove you wrong.

    - Explosions are capable of demagnetizing Iron Sand.

    - Without a Iron Sand dome, Sasori would get bombarded by Deidara.

    - C1 bird is capable of evading Sasori's attacks unless it's something like ISWO which can be demagnetized before it spreads and depending from what side it is coming from, Deidara can escape via his bird by either flying up or left/right.

    - Deidara is very well aware of Sasori's core.

    - C3 pretty much nukes.
    Only if they reach a certain heat, and assuming that Sasori has all of his Sand in one place. He is more than capable of having it maneuver around and attack at different angles to prevent any large explosion from taking out all of his sand.

    The Iron Sand can intercept any bomb aimed directly for Sasori, He can also merely have extra puppets out to switch to if things get too troubling.

    Correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't Deidara only used C3 when he was prepared/had prep time to use it? He went in to Sunagakure with it, did he not? We hadn't seen him use it since then, even in his Edo State.

    Basically I don't see Deidara being able to completely avoid all of the Iron Sand and demagnetize it with greater explosions before he gets at the least scratched.
     
         

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    Re: Deidara vs Sasori

    Post an argument. Let this be an all out Sasori versus Deidara thread.

    I have been trying to make up my mind on this match up a lot lately and it's been quite difficult for me, honestly. So I wanna see how this thread goes.
     
         

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    Re: Deidara vs Sasori

    I don't think heat is a matter of discussion. IS is Sasori's strongest technique, which depends on 3rd Kazekage. As we've seen before, Deidara has the ability to planet bombs within sand, that even Garra couldn't even detect with his sand sensing. If Deidara is capable of doing this, and follow-up with a direct attack towards 3rd Kazekage, forcing Sasori to provide a sand dome/shield. Deidara could destroy him rather easily.
     
         

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    Re: Deidara vs Sasori

    Quote Originally Posted by AkatsukiChurch View Post
    Will have to somewhat disagree this time, Billy Willy. Until you prove me wrong or I prove you wrong.

    - Explosions are capable of demagnetizing Iron Sand.

    - Without a Iron Sand dome, Sasori would get bombarded by Deidara.

    - C1 bird is capable of evading Sasori's attacks unless it's something like ISWO which can be demagnetized before it spreads and depending from what side it is coming from, Deidara can escape via his bird by either flying up or left/right.

    - Deidara is very well aware of Sasori's core.

    - C3 pretty much nukes.
    770 degrees Celsius is the curie point of iron. Deidara's bombs should easily be surpassing that, however, one thing to note is that Sasori's IS is in direct contact with lots of other IS. This allows it to conduct heavily, meaning there will be several bombs required for the IS to begin demagnetising completely, since it will only reach that curie point of 770 after the rest of the iron, or the on in close proximity, has reached a certain temperature in order for the grains themselves to achieve a temperature of 770. For example, if you touched your phone by a 500 degree flame for 1 second, your phone's effected area won't become 500 degrees, let alone close to it. Furthermore, Sasori can use mass amounts of IS at once. As seen in these scans [1][2] (from your very own thread), Sasori's quantity of IS seems to be virtually limitless, which means even if some of the sand is demagnetised, he can momentarily rid of his current IS shield (or atleast the low quality IS within it) to form a new one. One can claim that it is unfeasible and is wasting IS, but that is not the case. The demagnetised IS will be exposed to an assumed room temperature environment, which will allow it to rapidly cool down and become ready for usage once again. All in all, no matter how much Deidara demagnetises his sand, his own attacks will never be followed through. Why? Because it already takes several attacks to demagnetise it, assuming they are consecutive attacks which will not give enough time for the IS to begin cooling down. Once Sasori fears for his IS's quality, he can simply exchange it while he awaits his demagnetised IS to become once again; magnetisable.
     
         

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    Re: Deidara vs Sasori

    I think Deidara has the superior abilities, but Sasori can outlast him and is a little smarter. IS can tank most of the bombs, and depending if an IS dome can tank C3, he wins. If not, Deidara.
     
         

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    Re: Deidara vs Sasori

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa View Post
    Only if they reach a certain heat, and assuming that Sasori has all of his Sand in one place. He is more than capable of having it maneuver around and attack at different angles to prevent any large explosion from taking out all of his sand.
    Fair point is fair. Though, even so, I believe I showed you how fast Deidara is capable of replacing himself with clones? Constant replacements with clones and hidding via smoke clouds created by his explosions and normal clouds should throw off Sasori quite a bit. Deidara's explosions are quite big and powerful. Should be capable of demagnetizing Sasori's iron sand. It's a given that Deidara should have a harder time demagnetizing the sand considering that Sasori COULD technically keep on producing new sand, but considering Deidara can throw multiple bombs at once, that shouldn't be that much of a problem.

    Also, could he sneak in a bomb like he did against Gaara in the middle of all the smoke clouds, explosions and iron sand flying everywhere? Don't think Sasori would notice.

    The Iron Sand can intercept any bomb aimed directly for Sasori, He can also merely have extra puppets out to switch to if things get too troubling.
    And considering Deidara would be trying to take down Sasori, he'd do his best to demagnetize a good amount of Iron Sand close by to Sasori. Or are you saying that Sasori can just make some of the sand that is attacking Deidara intercept Deidara's explosive before it even comes close to the sand close to Sasori which he would rather use in a worst case scenario? Hmm, yes, that would be a huge pain in the ass for Deidara especially since he is limited to his explosions and chakra while Sasori? Not so much.

    Though, I don't see that being the case when Deidara uses larger explosives such as the C2's larger bombs which are apparently muuuch bigger than Bijuus as I have shown you. Same thing with C3. They have a huge AoE and could end up affecting most, if not all of Sasori's IS.

    Correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't Deidara only used C3 when he was prepared/had prep time to use it? He went in to Sunagakure with it, did he not? We hadn't seen him use it since then, even in his Edo State.
    Point is fair, but still there are two things to consider. C3 doesn't use up that much more clay than a C2 Dragon. Considering it took Deidara like a second or two to create the Dragon which is half the size of the C3, I don't think Deidara wouldn't be able to just create the doll in battle. Even if he can't, what happens if Deidara just drops the whole C2 Dragon? A small part of the whole dragon's tail was capable of creating an explosion that dwarfs Bijuu so if the whole dragon was detonated, wouldn't the results be similiar to that of the C3?

    Basically I don't see Deidara being able to completely avoid all of the Iron Sand and demagnetize it with greater explosions before he gets at the least scratched.
    With clay clones swapping and hidding himself via dust clouds, it could be possible.
     
         

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    Re: Deidara vs Sasori

    Nevermind then. Viewing William's and Itani's posts and then bringing their points together makes me change my mind on the whole topic. Sasori is a bit too overwhelming of an opponent.

    Now, I'll just wait for Viktor's post to fully confirm this.
     
         

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    Re: Deidara vs Sasori

    Deidara admitted inferiority to his senior only out of respect, I believe that he his more than capable of defeating Sasori if he maintains a safe aerial distance out of Sasori's reach. The biggest problem is the iron sand which has a defense capable of withstanding a multitude of clay bomb attacks but to a certain extent. C02 Dragon bombs sheer speed and power can devastate the area around Sasori destroying his current puppet or his 100 puppets that would be destroyed with multiple barrages of bombs till they are no more forcing Sasori to use himself with his fire that won't reach aerial Deidara and the water stream that can reach him but will do no good at defending him against bombs while the 3rd Kazekage puppet is destroyed.
     
         

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    Re: Deidara vs Sasori

    Quote Originally Posted by Zerk View Post
    Deidara admitted inferiority to his senior only out of respect, I believe that he his more than capable of defeating Sasori if he maintains a safe aerial distance out of Sasori's reach. The biggest problem is the iron sand which has a defense capable of withstanding a multitude of clay bomb attacks but to a certain extent. C02 Dragon bombs sheer speed and power can devastate the area around Sasori destroying his current puppet or his 100 puppets that would be destroyed with multiple barrages of bombs till they are no more forcing Sasori to use himself with his fire that won't reach aerial Deidara and the water stream that can reach him but will do no good at defending him against bombs while the 3rd Kazekage puppet is destroyed.
    I agree. People are being too technical oddly enough. IS is a matter of maintaining the security of the 3rd Kazekage. Deidara has ways to destroy him if he were to strategize accurately.
     
         

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    Re: Deidara vs Sasori

    Deidara wins, he respects Sasori that's why he said Sasori is superior. Deidara had a bad matchup against Sasuke who's raiton jutsu specialist. Deidara pretty much destroys most jonin and many kage level shinobi without much effort. The guy managed to kidnap Gaara from Gaara's own village !
     
         

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    Re: Deidara vs Sasori

    Iron Sand will be more than capable to tank all of the explosives Deidara throws. Considering Sasuke survived most of them with his curse seal, an iron substance with an extreme dense and heavy atoms will do the job. Both of them are capable of flying on the air, while at once, Sasori can defend and attack with his iron sand. Other than that, Deidara admitted inferiority, so nothing to discuss here.
     
         

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    Re: Deidara vs Sasori

    Deidara neg diff i never saw how this was ever debateable
     
         

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    Re: Deidara vs Sasori

    Deidara should win this.

    While sasori is distracted with using IS, deidara saids a small clay bird over to the 3rd kazekage puppet which sasori won't notice and destroy the 3rd kazekage puppet.

    That simple.
     
         

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    Re: Deidara vs Sasori

    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Charles View Post
    Deidara should win this.

    While sasori is distracted with using IS, deidara saids a small clay bird over to the 3rd kazekage puppet which sasori won't notice and destroy the 3rd kazekage puppet.

    That simple.
    But Sasori is a shinobi who can multitask a plethora of puppets at one point in time, and if he is relying on the third Kazekage he isn't letting him get out of his sight..
     
         

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    Re: Deidara vs Sasori

    Deidara doesn't consider Sasori his superior out of respect. Deidara is a hot tempered rascal. Sasori always makes fun of his art, he attacked him with Hirukos tail, and when brought back to life Sasori threatened to kill deidara. Do you think Deidara would take all this simply because he "respects" Sasori? Deidara knows he's inferior.
     
         

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    Re: Deidara vs Sasori

    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Charles View Post
    Deidara should win this.

    While sasori is distracted with using IS, deidara saids a small clay bird over to the 3rd kazekage puppet which sasori won't notice and destroy the 3rd kazekage puppet.

    That simple.
    What about when he summons his 100 puppets after?
     
         

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    Re: Deidara vs Sasori

    shitted on prince charles argument damn lmao
     
         

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    Re: Deidara vs Sasori

    people think those fragile puppets would make a difference? For one, in knowing how Sasori has to manipulate IS, he can't attack and defend accurately without sound wave activation.

    Trying to successfully manipulate that and possibly could 100 other puppets is debatable. Regardless, those puppets poe a little threat. After some time, Deidara will be able to predict his movements, subsequently predicting IS.
     
         

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    Re: Deidara vs Sasori

    Quote Originally Posted by blazekev90 View Post
    people think those fragile puppets would make a difference? For one, in knowing how Sasori has to manipulate IS, he can't attack and defend accurately without sound wave activation.

    Trying to successfully manipulate that and possibly could 100 other puppets is debatable. Regardless, those puppets poe a little threat. After some time, Deidara will be able to predict his movements, subsequently predicting IS.
    Deidara can predict Sasoris movements? When did he get a Sharingan? The puppets don't pose a threat? All they need is one cut and Sasori wins. Just one cut.
     
         

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