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    Does Kage really means you're the strongest in a village right now?

    I mean, it's said since the beginning of this manga that kages are the strongest people but what is the meaning of this right now? Just take a look:

    • 3rd Kazekage who was suppose to be the strongest in Sunas history was defeated by another ninja from Suna(Sasori) who has never been kage at all
    • Gaara who is kazekage was defeated by another non-Kage like Deidara
    • 4th Kazekage was defeated by Orochimaru(no Kage)
    • 4th Mizukage was defeated by Tobi(no kage)
    • 5kages together are owned by Madara alone(no Kage)
    • Raikage had a hard time against Sasuke(who is still classified as a genin)
    • Naruto(genin) defeated several Kages on his own in this war
    • There are other ninjas who are obviously stronger than current kages. Mei is Mizukage, but Kisame who comes from the same village is obviously stronger than her. Tsunade is kage in Konohagakure, but Itachi, Kakashi, Naruto, Gai, Sasuke are arguably stronger than her. Bee is stronger than A, etc


    So i really wonder if the kage title is even worthy right now:shrug:
     
         

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    Re: Does Kage really means you're the strongest in a village right now?

    Kage means leader of the village, it doesn't always mean the strongest. Some are fit to be a leader, and not strong, others not fit to be a leader and strong

    plus a lot of examples you used, i.e. Mei / Kisame, is because Kisame is 'evil'. Why would he become kage?
     
         

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    Re: Does Kage really means you're the strongest in a village right now?

    Simple answer: No.
     
         

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    Re: Does Kage really means you're the strongest in a village right now?

    They have to be strong; but they also have to be smart, good leaders and willing to anything for their people.
     
         

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    Re: Does Kage really means you're the strongest in a village right now?

    kage means shadow and a true shinobi is a master of the shadows so yes...
     
         

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    Re: Does Kage really means you're the strongest in a village right now?

    yes until now it means the strongest ninja in the village, but remember all those who killed these kages are akatsuki which is created of most dangerous ninjas..... naruto and sasuke must be stronger than anyone.. y sasuke? cuz he can make a fit when he fights naruto... as for naruto his dream is to become a hokage that surpasses all previous ones.... and comparing between the kages..... konoha got the strongest kages... thats y kishi must make naruto strong like winning over other village kages
     
         

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    Re: Does Kage really means you're the strongest in a village right now?

    nope!!!!!!
     
         

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    Re: Does Kage really means you're the strongest in a village right now?

    Just because Oro > 4th Kazekage doesn't mean Oro becomes Kazekage :sy:
    And rogues don't count obviously.
     
         

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    I have a belly button.
     
         

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    Re: Does Kage really means you're the strongest in a village right now?

    It means you're officially the strongest and recognized as so by the Daimyo and other villages, but it doesn't mean you really are.
     
         

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    Re: Does Kage really means you're the strongest in a village right now?

    Quote Originally Posted by HiddenSound View Post
    It means you're officially the strongest and recognized as so by the Daimyo and other villages, but it doesn't mean you really are.
    ^^This
     
         

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    Re: Does Kage really means you're the strongest in a village right now?

    No. If power was all you need to be Hokage, than the villages would have been unorganized. You need to be able to lead.

    Just because they lose to people who were never a kage, doesn't mean anything. A majority of people on that list are considered as S-Rank Criminals, so they are no longer apart of a village. As for Naruto, he is strong.
     
         

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    Re: Does Kage really means you're the strongest in a village right now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
    I mean, it's said since the beginning of this manga that kages are the strongest people but what is the meaning of this right now? Just take a look:

    • 3rd Kazekage who was suppose to be the strongest in Sunas history was defeated by another ninja from Suna(Sasori) who has never been kage at all
    • Gaara who is kazekage was defeated by another non-Kage like Deidara
    • 4th Kazekage was defeated by Orochimaru(no Kage)
    • 4th Mizukage was defeated by Tobi(no kage)
    • 5kages together are owned by Madara alone(no Kage)
    • Raikage had a hard time against Sasuke(who is still classified as a genin)
    • Naruto(genin) defeated several Kages on his own in this war
    • There are other ninjas who are obviously stronger than current kages. Mei is Mizukage, but Kisame who comes from the same village is obviously stronger than her. Tsunade is kage in Konohagakure, but Itachi, Kakashi, Naruto, Gai, Sasuke are arguably stronger than her. Bee is stronger than A, etc


    So i really wonder if the kage title is even worthy right now:shrug:
    Im just going to point that gaara thing out , Gaara was in Deidara's ass the entire fight .. He lost because of the location ...
     
         

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    Re: Does Kage really means you're the strongest in a village right now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ciberr View Post
    Im just going to point that gaara thing out , Gaara was in Deidara's ass the entire fight .. He lost because of the location ...
    Remember Deidara had no intent to kill him and Gaara had the advantage there since they were fighting in his desert:shrug:
     
         

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    Re: Does Kage really means you're the strongest in a village right now?

    Naruto defeated several kage? On his own? No he didnt.
     
         

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    Re: Does Kage really means you're the strongest in a village right now?

    S-rank ninjas are usually considered to be at the Kage level. But since most are missing nin or are "evil", they can never aspire to become hokage (because they probably dont even want to and the village would never elect them, best ex: Madara).
     
         

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    Re: Does Kage really means you're the strongest in a village right now?

    Technically jiraiya was more skillful than tsunade.
     
         

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    Re: Does Kage really means you're the strongest in a village right now?

    No. Naruto, Guy, and Kakashi are all better than Tsunade.

    I guess it's the leadership part that matters most
     
         

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    Re: Does Kage really means you're the strongest in a village right now?

    well lets see say a new kage becomes a leader of a village? okay he is the strongest out of them all, ok like years go bye theres a ninja now stronger than he is? why do you think they pass there title on after years of being a kage? cause there skills drop or the newer gen surpasses thers.
     
         

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    Re: Does Kage really means you're the strongest in a village right now?

    kages are the strongest in their village at their time, but look at it as a title or a power level coz some of who you mentioned were defeated in special circumstances, and there are also some people who are kage level or close yet they choose not to be kages or they are just evil, and ya raikage was just making a point with the ***** slap , just to make sasuke know his place. gara is kage level but he is still young (its not about just power, he need experience and skill) and deidara wouldn't have won if he didn't use cheap tricks. also kages are not all on the same level of power so jirayia, oro, itachi, kisami, sasori were all kage level no doubt and of course nagato
     
         
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    Re: Does Kage really means you're the strongest in a village right now?

    Quote Originally Posted by LolaxXx View Post
    Naruto defeated several kage? On his own? No he didnt.
    yeah tht confused me aswell

    Quote Originally Posted by Kensei muguruma View Post
    Technically jiraiya was more skillful than tsunade.
    and i agee with that^


    being kage means you are the leader of your vilage witch doesnt only meen that you have to a be a strong fighter but have to be able to inspire courge etc.

    they allso have to be resonable tactitions for times like war

    honistly right now yeah i'd say that kakashi and naruto are stronger than tsunade + i think that kakashi would be better hokage but he wouldnt like the responsability.
    and naruto is still too young and imature and hot headed

    also the S-Rank crimanals usualy are atleast kage levle but you wouldnt have a villan as the leader of your village, thats like america asking osama bin laden to be presedent ( i know he's dead im makin a point)

    and yes there are meany meany S-Rank criminals who could beat mosed of tha kages
     
         

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    Re: Does Kage really means you're the strongest in a village right now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    No. Naruto, Guy, and Kakashi are all better than Tsunade.

    I guess it's the leadership part that matters most
    they might be stronger in your opinion but are they smarter; i know Hatake is really smart but so is Tsunade and so far to be honest with you kamui is the only technique i can consider kakashi fit to be hokage
     
         

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    Re: Does Kage really means you're the strongest in a village right now?

    Quote Originally Posted by zesto View Post
    they might be stronger in your opinion but are they smarter; i know Hatake is really smart but so is Tsunade and so far to be honest with you kamui is the only technique i can consider kakashi fit to be hokage
    and her snails and medic jutsu (she is a medic mainly) which is pathetic compared to her grandfather's are fitting for a hokage :confused: SNAILS :rofl:, i know tsunade gets underrated a lot after all she is a sannin BUT come on she is only there coz jiraiya turned the offer down. kakashi is known as the legendary copy ninja that is what you should consider PLUS kamui AND tsunadi is also hotheaded and no where as smart and insightful as kakashi is
     
         
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    Re: Does Kage really means you're the strongest in a village right now?

    I think to become hokage is not just about the strongest or not, but also about the leadership. And of course The Daimyo and the board must acknowledge them.
     
         

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    Re: Does Kage really means you're the strongest in a village right now?

    Its not just about strength. You have to take into account the village and its best wishes.
     
         

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