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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 598 Discussion and 599 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by TheComedian View Post
    What are you talking about. this is totally what happened:D For all we know Gai was babbling and calling kakashi by the name of his lost twin brothers, Shi and Kashi.

    Also to whoever made that new account with this theory whose username is actually 'shikashi'. THAT is what i call originality. I actually support that person more than those that list that Tobi is Obito because it has the same letters:flaw:
    I'm not going to accept Tobi is Obito unless it's confirmed.

    GREAT. Chapter by the way. Makes me want to start drawing Naruto chars again.

    count me in with those who are curious about why Tobi hasn't been using a lot of Rinnegan tech. It seems like he hasn't been taking Naruto as a serious threat? I believe after getting his face mashed he will definitely Shinra Tensei everything
    I have a theory about why he didn't use Rinnegan abilities on Naruto at that time. If I'm remembering correctly, we have never actually seen him use any jutsu or techniques INSIDE of the Kamui dimension (please correct me if I'm wrong on this). If this is the case then perhaps he CAN'T use jutsu there. This could explain why he had to take the Rasengan to the face.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 598 Discussion and 599 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by AJT014 View Post
    3.) Actually makes a lot of sense. IF Obito is Tobi and Obito apprenticed under Madara...this explains where Tobi obtained the rinnegan that he supposedly gave to Nagato. Where else would he have gotten them other than a deceased Madara?
    Nagato is older than the fourth Hokage Nagato was Pervy Sage student before the fourth as far as we know. So Tobi being Obito and giving the rinnigan to Nagato (if not Madara) will need more explaining and I agree that when Tobi fought the fourth, Tobi seem to be older than the fourth, also we still know he part of Zetsu, which have the first Hokage cells. So who every he is, he have alot more knowledge than what Obito would of had at his age. My theory is that he is Madara clone. Mix with Black Zetsu, that can salvage cell from other ninja's and that how he collected Obito cells and sharingan.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 598 Discussion and 599 Predictions

    I deff give it 5 stars :D I'm anxious for next week of Tobi's reveal! >.<
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 598 Discussion and 599 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by killerbeesama View Post
    i got the feeling that next weeks chapter is about sasuke&oro or the kages but kishi isn't gonna show us the face of tobi awesome chapter though 5*
    i agree
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 598 Discussion and 599 Predictions

    I was tottally pissed that Kishimoto trolled us again in chapter 598. The suspense was killing me. =/
    As for predictions for 599, i really can't say. The only way hes The O-man is if tobi is more than 1 person.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 598 Discussion and 599 Predictions

    Hopefully next week chapter be about Sasuke
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 598 Discussion and 599 Predictions

    Has Obito's father actually appeared in the manga yet?
    Nope, he's not an important character or even a supporting character. It's not likely that he would be Tobi.

    People who keep talking about plot holes and logic, just to let you know of course they are going to be there. If there were no plot holes then it wouldn't be a mystery of who Tobi is. Kishi deliberetly created plot holes to leave it a mystery.
    I'm pretty sure you don't know what a plot hole is. In a good story, there aren't any plot holes. When we suggest that Tobi = Obito is a plot hole, it's because it doesn't mage any logical sense with the rest of the story which has already been established.

    It's like we were watching Star Wars and Darth Vader was actually Luke Skywalker. That would be a plot hole because the story establishes Luke's father as Darth Vader, so it's logically impossible for Luke to be Darth Vader.

    In this case, it's logically impossible for Tobi to be Obito considering the timeline of events, the age of Obito, and the character development of Tobi. That's why it would be a plot hole if Tobi turned out to be Obito.

    Just like Nagato controlling Yahiko's dead body with the rinnegan. It is Obito's dead body being controlled by Izuna.
    The difference is that Obito's body was crushed by giant rocks and it would take a miracle for even his eye to remain intact and usable, much less his entire body.

    It's entirely possible that Tobi is really Izuna (which is the most logical guess so far), and that he recovered Obito's eye after he died.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 598 Discussion and 599 Predictions

    I just want to know how Tobi obtained obito's other eye when his body with it was clearly crushed.:shrug:
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 598 Discussion and 599 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by KayaUzumaki View Post
    I have a theory about why he didn't use Rinnegan abilities on Naruto at that time. If I'm remembering correctly, we have never actually seen him use any jutsu or techniques INSIDE of the Kamui dimension (please correct me if I'm wrong on this). If this is the case then perhaps he CAN'T use jutsu there. This could explain why he had to take the Rasengan to the face.
    dude that makes perfect sense plus rep
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 598 Discussion and 599 Predictions

    Since Tobi has MS y not fuse it with the other sharingan eyes he's collected to have eternal MS?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 598 Discussion and 599 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuriboh View Post
    i really hope its not obito
    You and me and millons of Naruto fans would be disappointed
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 598 Discussion and 599 Predictions

    Tobi is Obito its obvious tobi says" U Just have a BORROWED power thtu can use a bunch of times" and Tobi and kakashi have the same MS .....................Cant wait until Next week ?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 598 Discussion and 599 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by -Haku Yuki- View Post
    yes kihsi is trolling us with small fake hints on who it could be, he did it with with madara before it became oboius even then he kept it up making us think he was madara even when it was obius he wasn't. hes trolling kakashi thats what tobi is doing making him lose his cool. next chapter his face will be revealed and it won't be obito otheriwse it won't be surpising it has to be someone we dididn't expect so he build up some tenseion between tobi and kakashi to make us believe it was obito.

    and if i'm wrong wow kishi way to let it out long before he f*cking mask came off
    I agree with you entirely sir. It'd be a waste of all this build up if 4 chapters before he reveals who it is he's already given it up. I think it's someone else merely with Obito's Eye. That's all.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 598 Discussion and 599 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by william7 View Post
    f*** i cant wait till the next manga kishi better not switch to a different scene
    Don't give him ideas, un.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 598 Discussion and 599 Predictions

    I think he implied that kakashi cant use the ms full capability becuz he isnt an uchiha. Does not reveal hes tobi becuz he could of just ment that hes borrowing from his clans power.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 598 Discussion and 599 Predictions

    I would like to point some things to all. I don't understand why people go on and on about Tobi's identity. He couldnt be Obito because he's old, he fought the 4th hokage, he gave Nagato the Rinnegan , and so on. If you get ur head out of the gutter , you might be able to remember that he is supposedly "Uchiha Madara". When he said he gave Nagato the rinnegan, he meant it as if he was Uchiha Madara, but he is not. Some say he is old. And whoever says it, has seen his face where???????? Because of some wrinkles on the right eye?? Seriously? For those of you that says he knows too much. Yeah, there's ways of learning people, specially if you came in contact with Madara and Zetsu who has been recording everything since who knows when. Tobi has been lying for quite sometime like when he told Sasuke that the Kyuubi attack was a natural occurrence. Sounds fishy??? Regarding Kisame, it could well be that he saw the real Madara first or a Zetsu clone, and that could well be the case the second time he showed his face to Kisame the second time. Remeber that Zetsu can replicate even chakra!!! (Kisame clone anyone??) When Kisame was killed, even the the Raikage and B thought he was dead. Great impostor right? Regarding Tobi's skills, I've said it once and Ill say it again, the only real skill Tobi has is that he is difficult to touch cause of the intangeability. Thats about it!! and he is very good at using it, but thats about it. Uchiha Kaenjin (BTW, for all of you who said this was Tobi's real name , here :flaw: ) sure thats something new but notice in this last chapter how master tactician, Kamui Spam specialist Kakashi along with naruto have been able to beat him up. The main advantage Tobi had against previous opponents was that no one knew how his jutsu worked. And regarding the fourth Hokage's battle. This is further proof that Tobi is Obito, why in the blue hell would he cover his face if the 4th didnt knew who he was?????. Also, since the 4th hokage is a master beast thinker and tactician, well, Rasengan to the spine, 'nough said. Tobi was only trying to absorb him but notice he couldnt even use Izanagi as he didnt have eyes to sacrifice. Thats why he took part in the Uchiha massacre, to collect more eyes just in case. Im pretty sure Danzo has a alot to do with everything that has happened and there miight be a big cover up of something. I just feel it. Specially with what happened during and after VOTE fight , and with Uchiha massacre. Well, I guess next week will be seeing either a troll episode or Tobi's real face. What I want to know is what will happen after the mask comes off and the 10 tails is revived. also what will happen with Madara and them kages.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 598 Discussion and 599 Predictions

    Omfg! I cant wait for the next chapter! :overjoy:
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 598 Discussion and 599 Predictions

    As for motives of Obito being bad now if he is Tobi, remember he loved Rin, and he asked Kakashi to protect her yet he didnt or couldnt for some reason that might be explained soon. He just lost faith in people and gave in to hate. His gift to his frined was in vain as he did nothing with what he was entrusted.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 598 Discussion and 599 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by squigles View Post
    Nope, he's not an important character or even a supporting character. It's not likely that he would be Tobi.



    I'm pretty sure you don't know what a plot hole is. In a good story, there aren't any plot holes. When we suggest that Tobi = Obito is a plot hole, it's because it doesn't mage any logical sense with the rest of the story which has already been established.

    It's like we were watching Star Wars and Darth Vader was actually Luke Skywalker. That would be a plot hole because the story establishes Luke's father as Darth Vader, so it's logically impossible for Luke to be Darth Vader.

    In this case, it's logically impossible for Tobi to be Obito considering the timeline of events, the age of Obito, and the character development of Tobi. That's why it would be a plot hole if Tobi turned out to be Obito.



    The difference is that Obito's body was crushed by giant rocks and it would take a miracle for even his eye to remain intact and usable, much less his entire body.

    It's entirely possible that Tobi is really Izuna (which is the most logical guess so far), and that he recovered Obito's eye after he died.
    Your forgetting that Tobi's body has obviously been modified or is part of zetsu. During the fight with the 4th his hand dripped off. This could easily have been a way to repair the damage to Obito's body.

    I think hid identity is a mixture of a lot of the theories. Izuna is the mastermind, Obito is the body, and Zetsu is the medium is which his body was repaired. We haven't gotten a back story on zetsu like we have other akatsuki members. I think he is the missing link in Tobi's plot.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 598 Discussion and 599 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by mequetrefe View Post
    I would like to point some things to all. I don't understand why people go on and on about Tobi's identity. He couldnt be Obito because he's old, he fought the 4th hokage, he gave Nagato the Rinnegan , and so on. If you get ur head out of the gutter , you might be able to remember that he is supposedly "Uchiha Madara". When he said he gave Nagato the rinnegan, he meant it as if he was Uchiha Madara, but he is not. Some say he is old. And whoever says it, has seen his face where???????? Because of some wrinkles on the right eye?? Seriously? For those of you that says he knows too much. Yeah, there's ways of learning people, specially if you came in contact with Madara and Zetsu who has been recording everything since who knows when. Tobi has been lying for quite sometime like when he told Sasuke that the Kyuubi attack was a natural occurrence. Sounds fishy??? Regarding Kisame, it could well be that he saw the real Madara first or a Zetsu clone, and that could well be the case the second time he showed his face to Kisame the second time. Remeber that Zetsu can replicate even chakra!!! (Kisame clone anyone??) When Kisame was killed, even the the Raikage and B thought he was dead. Great impostor right? Regarding Tobi's skills, I've said it once and Ill say it again, the only real skill Tobi has is that he is difficult to touch cause of the intangeability. Thats about it!! and he is very good at using it, but thats about it. Uchiha Kaenjin (BTW, for all of you who said this was Tobi's real name , here :flaw: ) sure thats something new but notice in this last chapter how master tactician, Kamui Spam specialist Kakashi along with naruto have been able to beat him up. The main advantage Tobi had against previous opponents was that no one knew how his jutsu worked. And regarding the fourth Hokage's battle. This is further proof that Tobi is Obito, why in the blue hell would he cover his face if the 4th didnt knew who he was?????. Also, since the 4th hokage is a master beast thinker and tactician, well, Rasengan to the spine, 'nough said. Tobi was only trying to absorb him but notice he couldnt even use Izanagi as he didnt have eyes to sacrifice. Thats why he took part in the Uchiha massacre, to collect more eyes just in case. Im pretty sure Danzo has a alot to do with everything that has happened and there miight be a big cover up of something. I just feel it. Specially with what happened during and after VOTE fight , and with Uchiha massacre. Well, I guess next week will be seeing either a troll episode or Tobi's real face. What I want to know is what will happen after the mask comes off and the 10 tails is revived. also what will happen with Madara and them kages.
    I agree with you completely. -3-
    Tobi is a ****ing liar, yes. And just because he has eye wrinkles doesn't mean he's old.(Sleep depravation, anyone?) He really doesn't have any good jutsus, either. It would be impossible for him to be obito, UNLESS he were more than one person. And even then i highly doubt it was him, beacause Obito got squished like a bug.
     
         
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