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    Getting my feet wet with Erzo sempai

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    Re: Getting my feet wet with Erzo sempai

    Wait, so you're sticking with water? If someone is already training you, tell me what rank you are at please and link the thread. And if you feel like changing elements, that's cool too. o_o
     
         

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    Re: Getting my feet wet with Erzo sempai

    nope i have no training in this and if you wanna change its up to you i am just happy you decided to train me.^^
     
         

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    Re: Getting my feet wet with Erzo sempai

    It's all the same to me.

    But okay, since you've had no previous training in Suiton, I want you to start by going over by that lake *Points* and meditate whilst flowing your chakra around your body, try to bring out your water chakra and become one with the lake. Whilst you're meditating tell me what you feel.
     
         

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    Re: Getting my feet wet with Erzo sempai

    After directing me towards the lake i walk over to the lake and have a seat right on the edge of the water. I dip my finger in the lake and feel the cool still water. I then fold my legs and begin to meditate. Often taking smoothe deep breaths and dispelling all distractions. I then began to focus chakra throughout my body. The feeling of water chakra flowing throughout my body was soothing. While meditating I felt the lake and and what surrounded it i felt gentle and easy going.

    Trying my best to be decriptive
     
         

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    Re: Getting my feet wet with Erzo sempai

    Quote Originally Posted by The 4th Raikage View Post
    After directing me towards the lake i walk over to the lake and have a seat right on the edge of the water. I dip my finger in the lake and feel the cool still water. I then fold my legs and begin to meditate. Often taking smoothe deep breaths and dispelling all distractions. I then began to focus chakra throughout my body. The feeling of water chakra flowing throughout my body was soothing. While meditating I felt the lake and and what surrounded it i felt gentle and easy going.

    Trying my best to be decriptive
    Good, good.

    Now that you have focused your chakra throughout your body whilst meditating by the link, try to feel/call out your water chakra and as you do, feel it and try to describe it's properties, as well as telling me what it's weak against, strong against and what it's neutral to, if anything.
     
         

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    Re: Getting my feet wet with Erzo sempai

    Still sitting on the ground i begin to channel chakra throughout my body once again focusing on keeping a calm and still mind and body. This would help me change my normal chakra into water chakra.

    Water release is a basic element in the narutoverse which can be used in many different ways. In naruto and real life water is strong aaisnt fire because it natural douses/ extinguishes the flames. Like all elements water has it's weakness. Water is weak against earth because earth is more dense then water and can render the force of water useless. Water is kind of neautral to wind and lightning but not really. You can use water technique to make your lightning techniques stronger because the water acts as a natural insulator to the lightning. The same goes for wind if you use a wind technique along with water it can give it a slight power boost.
    Water release is the base for many other elements, such as ice, boil, and storm release.
     
         

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    Re: Getting my feet wet with Erzo sempai

    Quote Originally Posted by The 4th Raikage View Post
    Still sitting on the ground i begin to channel chakra throughout my body once again focusing on keeping a calm and still mind and body. This would help me change my normal chakra into water chakra.

    Water release is a basic element in the narutoverse which can be used in many different ways. In naruto and real life water is strong aaisnt fire because it natural douses/ extinguishes the flames. Like all elements water has it's weakness. Water is weak against earth because earth is more dense then water and can render the force of water useless. Water is kind of neautral to wind and lightning but not really. You can use water technique to make your lightning techniques stronger because the water acts as a natural insulator to the lightning. The same goes for wind if you use a wind technique along with water it can give it a slight power boost.
    Water release is the base for many other elements, such as ice, boil, and storm release.
    Alright, nicely described.

    Wind = Water, so A-rank wind can take out A-rank Water.

    As for lightning vs water, they go through each other, whilst the lightning electrocutes the water, so if your opponent uses a water jutsu, using a lightning jutsu of equal/higher/lower rank would do nothing to stop the water.

    Another thing

    A-rank Water = S-rank Fire .
    A-rank Water > A-rank Fire.

    So for Fire to cancel out a water jutsu, it must be one rank higher.

    A-rank Earth = S-rank Water .
    A-rank Earth > A-rank Water.
    etc.

    Do you understand how the weaknesses and strengths in ranks work? or would you like me to explain in a different way?
     
         

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    Re: Getting my feet wet with Erzo sempai

    Quote Originally Posted by Erzo View Post
    Alright, nicely described.

    Wind = Water, so A-rank wind can take out A-rank Water.

    As for lightning vs water, they go through each other, whilst the lightning electrocutes the water, so if your opponent uses a water jutsu, using a lightning jutsu of equal/higher/lower rank would do nothing to stop the water.

    Another thing

    A-rank Water = S-rank Fire .
    A-rank Water > A-rank Fire.

    So for Fire to cancel out a water jutsu, it must be one rank higher.

    A-rank Earth = S-rank Water .
    A-rank Earth > A-rank Water.
    etc.

    Do you understand how the weaknesses and strengths in ranks work? or would you like me to explain in a different way?
    i understand sempai
     
         

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    Re: Getting my feet wet with Erzo sempai

    Quote Originally Posted by The 4th Raikage View Post
    i understand sempai
    Awesome, now if you have any questions, feel free to ask.

    We'll get started with the jutsus, so I want you to concentrate your suiton chakra in your body and and spew out a small amount of water which you can use for defensive purposes such as taking out C-ranked fire or to send offensive to blast at your opponent, however it won't kill or damage him severely due to its rank.

    Also if used to defend against C-rank fire jutsus make sure the fire jutsu is not something that attacks from various sides and/or angles as this jutsu only allows you to shoot water out of your mouth so it'd mainly take care of fire in front of you.

    However, you could -if you want- manipulate a water source and use this, I believe. So yeah, for now, just do as I've said and spew out a small or of water and create a little puddle in front of you :3
     
         

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    Re: Getting my feet wet with Erzo sempai

    Aye sir!

    I begin to build up a small amount of chakra throughout my body i then think cool thoughts and begin to channel suiton chakra up to my throat. I breathe in then let out a smoothe calm breath. As i exhale a stream of water is released from my mouth and onto the ground creating a small puddle in fron of me
     
         

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    Re: Getting my feet wet with Erzo sempai

    Quote Originally Posted by The 4th Raikage View Post
    Aye sir!

    I begin to build up a small amount of chakra throughout my body i then think cool thoughts and begin to channel suiton chakra up to my throat. I breathe in then let out a smoothe calm breath. As i exhale a stream of water is released from my mouth and onto the ground creating a small puddle in fron of me
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    (Suiton No Jutsu) - Water technique
    Rank: D
    Type: Supplementary/Attack/Defence
    Range: Short-Mid
    Damage Points:20
    Description: Creates small waves of water,small blasts, and small shields of water.
    Note: Doesn't require a water source but can be used to manipulate existing water.


    Just so you know, you can use this jutsu and release/create waves and blasts of water from a water source on the battlefield or from a water source caused by a jutsu which allows you to use it as a water source. (As long as it's your jutsu)

    Next jutsu I want you to concentrate your water chakra in your mouth and slowly convert it to small particles of water. After doing that I want you to exhale it whilst further manipulating the small particles of water and turn them into a mist made of your chakra.

    This is useful against Sharingan users as they can't locate you due to the whole mist being made out of your chakra, but byakugan users can still see you so it'd be smart not to use the mist in an attempt to fool the byakugan.
     
         

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    Re: Getting my feet wet with Erzo sempai

    I concentrate water chakra inside my mouth. I then focus on breaking the water chakra into smaller water particles. Once i feel the chakra decrease slightly i exhale releasing a thin cloud of mist from my mouth. In which i can hide in.
     
         

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    Re: Getting my feet wet with Erzo sempai

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    I concentrate water chakra inside my mouth. I then focus on breaking the water chakra into smaller water particles. Once i feel the chakra decrease slightly i exhale releasing a thin cloud of mist from my mouth. In which i can hide in.
    Learnt jutsu:

    (Kirigakure No Jutsu) - Hidding in Mist Jutsu
    Rank: D
    Type: Supplementary
    Range: Short/Mid
    Chakra Cost: 10
    Damage Points: N/A
    Description: This displacement technique creates a thick mist to spring forth by lifting up some water from either a pre-existing source or expelled from their mouth, then goes in and out of sight at will from within the pearly-white realm. The mist's thickness is controlled by the amount of chakra kneaded into it. It can't fool the Byakugan, but, due to the mist being created with the user's chakra, any Sharingan and Rinnegan-user will see the mist coloured by their opponent's chakra, which will effectively hide the user from the dōjutsu.
    Note: Can be created through releasing from mouth or manipulating a nearby water source.


    For the next jutsu, I want you to concentrate your water chakra in your palm and materialize water which you then immediately use shape manipulation to quickly create a sword with the water.

    The sword should be strong enough to cut and stab like any other normal sword, however this just happens to be made of Water. It's made fairly fast and it can be useful in close quarter fights. Give it a try and cut that tree's bark once you've made it.

    -Points at tree-
     
         

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    Re: Getting my feet wet with Erzo sempai

    I move closer to the tree, i build up my water chakra. I then focus the chakra to my palms. I concentrate on manipulating a small amount of water into a sword. Water begins to materialize in my hands. I then shape the water into a sword. Which i then use the sword to cut off a slab of bark from the tree
     
         

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    Re: Getting my feet wet with Erzo sempai

    Quote Originally Posted by The 4th Raikage View Post
    I move closer to the tree, i build up my water chakra. I then focus the chakra to my palms. I concentrate on manipulating a small amount of water into a sword. Water begins to materialize in my hands. I then shape the water into a sword. Which i then use the sword to cut off a slab of bark from the tree
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    (Suiton: Mizu Kuri No Yaiba) - Water Style: Sword of Draining
    Rank: D
    Range: Short
    Chakra cost: 10
    Damage Points: 20
    Description: A technique that utilizes water to create a sword. The sword can be wielded in the normal fashion, allowing the ninja to cut and stab like with a normal blade.
    Note: Doesn't require a water source.


    -We move towards a nearby lake or something >.< -

    Now concentrate your water chakra into the lake and use shape manipulation to create a shark like structre out of it, the shark will obviously be made of water, I then need you to make the shark jump into the air and strike my clone from above.

    Make sure the shark is dense and strong enough to hit my clone with enough force which would push him back several meters.

    -makes a clone-
     
         

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    Re: Getting my feet wet with Erzo sempai

    Follows Sempai to the lake. Once at the lake i concentrate my chakra on the lake itself. Once i can fel my chakra and lake together i shape the water into a dense shark and direct the shark at your clone.
     
         

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    Re: Getting my feet wet with Erzo sempai

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    Follows Sempai to the lake. Once at the lake i concentrate my chakra on the lake itself. Once i can fel my chakra and lake together i shape the water into a dense shark and direct the shark at your clone.
    -Shark disperses before it gets to my clone-

    Use more chakra! >
     
         

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    Re: Getting my feet wet with Erzo sempai

    i focus my chakra on the lake again. This time applying more chakra and focus. Once i feel my chakra and the water together i shape the water into a shark and direct it at your clone
     
         

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    Re: Getting my feet wet with Erzo sempai

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    i focus my chakra on the lake again. This time applying more chakra and focus. Once i feel my chakra and the water together i shape the water into a shark and direct it at your clone
    I want more description and detail as we go on. :P

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    (Suiton: Suikōtoppa) – Water Release: Water Shark Breakthrough
    Rank: C
    Type: Attack
    Range: short
    Chakra cost 15
    Damage points: 30
    Description: The user will create a water shark to jump into the air and bolt towards the opponent, striking them.
    Note: Requires a water source.


    For the next jutsu, I want you to practise performing the Rat ~> Dog ~> Ox hand seals whilst concentrating on your water chakra, you can then use shape manipulation to make the water turn into a whip, which can be used in different ways.

    For the first time, I want you to use it so that it simply heads towards my opponent and binds him, preventing him form moving around, if you do that well enough, we'll move on to another way you can use the jutsu.

    Give it a try now.

    -Makes a clone-
     
         

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    Re: Getting my feet wet with Erzo sempai

    taking note of what erzo sempai just told me, i sit down for a minute and take time out to concentrate and focus my chakra tthroughout my body. Once i feel the chakra flowing throughout my body. I begin to practice three handseals Rat ~> Dog ~> Ox. I repeat this step until i can perform the handseals with my off hand. Now i stand up and build up my water chakra throughout my body. I feel the chakra flowing throughout my body, i then focus the chakra towards my palm area. I perform the Rat ~> Dog ~> Ox handseals, then water is created in my hands. I then concentrate on molding the water into a whip in which i can use in many ways. I charge at the clone with the whip in my hand and swing it in a circular motion, then release. Once i release the clone is bound up by my whip.

    How was that?
     
         

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    Re: Getting my feet wet with Erzo sempai

    Quote Originally Posted by The 4th Raikage View Post
    taking note of what erzo sempai just told me, i sit down for a minute and take time out to concentrate and focus my chakra tthroughout my body. Once i feel the chakra flowing throughout my body. I begin to practice three handseals Rat ~> Dog ~> Ox. I repeat this step until i can perform the handseals with my off hand. Now i stand up and build up my water chakra throughout my body. I feel the chakra flowing throughout my body, i then focus the chakra towards my palm area. I perform the Rat ~> Dog ~> Ox handseals, then water is created in my hands. I then concentrate on molding the water into a whip in which i can use in many ways. I charge at the clone with the whip in my hand and swing it in a circular motion, then release. Once i release the clone is bound up by my whip.

    How was that?
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    (Suiton: Suiben) - Water Release: Water whip
    Rank: C
    Type: Offensive, supplementary
    Range: Short - Mid
    Chakra cost: 15
    Damage points: 30
    Description: After the user performs a series of 3 hand seals Rat → Dog → Ox, the user creates a whip of water that can be used to strike the opponent with a lashing action or wrap around the target to bind them. This technique can also have lightning techniques channeled through when they have bound their victim with the water whip.


    For the next jutsu, I need you to perform Ram → Tiger hand seals and concentrate your water chakra in your mouth whilst adding a thick and sticky substance to it. After doing so spit out in the ground in front of you. Make sure the 'water' you spit out is viscous as it's main ability resides in the fact that it's a sticky source of water.
     
         

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    Re: Getting my feet wet with Erzo sempai

    school started i will try and get to training when i can
     
         

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    Re: Getting my feet wet with Erzo sempai

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    school started i will try and get to training when i can
    No problem. ^^
     
         

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    Re: Getting my feet wet with Erzo sempai

    I start by focusing water chakra throughout my body then channelling it towards my mouth once i feel it build up i focus on making the water as sticky as possible i then perform the ram and tiger handseals then spew out a stream of sticky water in front of me
     
         

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