Views on Itachi.......Was he the Strongest????

[Ady]

You're right, however there are some exceptions from this power rankking but since you're often getting angry when somebody disagrees with you I wont go into discussion

heh so I have a bad reputation here...sorry

[Mighty Curtain Messiah]

just avoid those puppets and go for the real one...that's why I said he has the speed to to that..or just destroy his body with the sharingan how he did with deidara...

Sharingan is his last reosrt power Usually aftr using it, he becomes ill or dead. Avoid 100 puppets + million needles sure sounds easy, Chiyo (the best pupetteer ever) managed to do it byt controlling somebody eyt you think Kakashi could jsut avoid him. And what could he do to the real body if he had like 2 puppets on it. WIth poison and other stuff.

[ssanimo]

with yata's mirror (deflects all attacks)

susano (a monsterous spirit beast able to take a hit from kirin)

and the sword of totsuka (send anything it cuts into genjutsu dream like dimension for all eternity).......basically the only thing i have seen that would touch the nin-tails.......this is the main reason i put him in the #1 spot

i didn't even speak of amaterasu or tsukuyomi.......its the spirit sword that puts him over the edge

and yes in my mind i think nagato is stronger than any of the others and should rival the #1 or 2 spot......but he had his faults and sasuke will give naruto the toughest fight he will have against naruto

maybe i contradicted myself a little on the statement i said from what we have seen (i guess i didn't get that part stein) thats why i didn't have yondaime and madara there.......we havent seen them........but yea maybe i should have sasuke and nagato flip floped.....becuz we havent seen him fight naruto yet.......but.......if this thread is still active and open when he does fight him (which appears is gonna happen pretty quickly) than i think i will be proven right with my list as it is now

and on the j-man being smart i agree totaly.....but itachi was a genius that rivaled the 4th in my mind and he knew of many things that even j-man didn't
and although sasuke isn't as knowledgeable , he is a genius as far as his abilty to learn and adapt to sitiutions in battle.....and just overall learn quickly

[Mighty Curtain Messiah]

heh so I have a bad reputation here...sorry

No it's not likle this but I have seen you ( I wont point with a finger where) acting a little bit short-tempered in some discussions and topics. And I dont like when people OMG and WTF at me.

[Ady]

No it's not likle this but I have seen you ( I wont point with a finger where) acting a little bit short-tempered in some discussions and topics. And I dont like when people OMG and WTF at me.

I'm just like deidara lol)...maybe it sounds a little hard..if we would have spoken face to face it would be funny....I sometimes forget how hard that words can be when those are written..so ,,,again...sorry

[Deidara...]

pein in my opinion would be defeated by both sasuke and itachi because he's highly vulnerable to genjutsu thus the sharingan would be his worst nightmare considering its most deadly weapons are genjutsu

[ssanimo]

look debating is cool but i intended this post to be more about makeing you own rankings similar to mine......

and when i made my list i went thru their respctive jutsus in my mind along with ninja skills,speed,power,stamina,and will power in mind

[ssanimo]

pein in my opinion would be defeated by both sasuke and itachi because he's highly vulnerable to genjutsu thus the sharingan would be his worst nightmare considering its most deadly weapons are genjutsu

agreed ecspecially dojutsu gengutsu since he since the vision of each path transfers back to nagato

[Mighty Curtain Messiah]

pein in my opinion would be defeated by both sasuke and itachi because he's highly vulnerable to genjutsu thus the sharingan would be his worst nightmare considering its most deadly weapons are genjutsu

Meh this is only your opinion, but what you say is really just a speculation since the only genjutsu which worked or not on Pein so far was Jirayas hermit sound genjutsu which uses sound and doesn't rely on doujutsu or ninjutsu. Plus I have a feelign that Pein was just testing Jirayas power and that's the reason why he used 3 bodies Whether an eye genjutsu works on Pein is unknown.

[Deidara...]

thats an honorable intention but as Ady said that cant be done

i call it the pokemon effect there is no one strongest and there never will be because everyone can be beaten by someone and the person who beat them can also be defeated by a thrid party who could lose to the original person

his onepiece example is the best way to put it

[+luffy+]

maybe he is the strongest but i think is the strongest

[Mighty Curtain Messiah]

look debating is cool but i intended this post to be more about makeing you own rankings similar to mine......

and when i made my list i went thru their respctive jutsus in my mind along with ninja skills,speed,power,stamina,and will power in mind

Okay buddy, sorry for going off topic.

My overall rankings which are based on both facts, opinions and speculations

And I won't include shinobis who are alredy 15 years dead

1) Madara Uchiha - EMS + like 90 year fighting expirience
2) Nagato/Pein - Rinnegan and all the related jutsu
3) Jiraya/Itachi/Naruto/Orochimaru
4) Kakuzu/Sasori/Sasuke
5) Kakashi/Deidara/
6) Gaara

[Deidara...]

Okay buddy, sorry for going off topic.

My overall rankings which are based on both facts, opinions and speculations

And I won't include shinobis who are alredy 15 years dead

1) Madara Uchiha - EMS + like 90 year fighting expirience
2) Nagato/Pein - Rinnegan and all the related jutsu
3) Jiraya/Itachi/Naruto/Orochimaru
4) Kakuzu/Sasori/Sasuke
5) Kakashi/Deidara/
6) Gaara

going with the intention of the forum this is an on point list

[peaceful]

Wtf??? I agree!!!! Though Sasuke has much more potential than Naruto...

[Mighty Curtain Messiah]

going with the intention of the forum this is an on point list

that's why I said there are MY overall rankings I am too lazy to go into details now

[Kagutsuchi]

IS EVERYBODY FORGETTING ??? ITACHI WAS SICK WHEN HE FOUGHT SASUGAY ??????????????????????????????????????????

there is no way for sasugay to win if it hadn't been itachi's wish to lose !!

[Mighty Curtain Messiah]

IS EVERYBODY FORGETTING ??? ITACHI WAS SICK WHEN HE FOUGHT SASUGAY ??????????????????????????????????????????

there is no way for sasugay to win if it hadn't been itachi's wish to lose !!

Oh buddy, no we havent forgot that, but noone stated that Sasuke is stronger Itachi did anyone?

[peaceful]

sasori stronger than kakashi?wtf don't make me laugh

lol.... I do not believe there are guys who think that Kakashi is stronger than Sasori..lol

[Mighty Curtain Messiah]

lol.... I do not believe there are guys who think that Kakashi is stronger than Sasori..lol

Pencil > Sasori.

[peaceful]

Pencil > Sasori.

lol... I think someone is going to report you...

[Deidara...]

Wtf??? I agree!!!! Though Sasuke has much more potential than Naruto...

no he doesnt if he did the series would be called sasuke
wether we like it or not naruto will end up the stongest ninja of team 7

[Mighty Curtain Messiah]

lol... I think someone is going to report you...

But I said he's stronger than Sasori.

[Deidara...]

and peaceful sasori is stronger than kakshi speed is un important when your very defensive kakshi maybe stronger than chiyo and sakura but that doesnt mean anything beacuse chiyo could read his attacks and keep sakura and herself from dying of poison kakshi may be awesome but he's not sutied to fight sasori

[peaceful]

no he doesnt if he did the series would be called sasuke
wether we like it or not naruto will end up the stongest ninja of team 7

So? Even if they fight Naruto does not have to be stronger than Sasuke to win.

But I said he's stronger than Sasori.

lol...:D:D:D

[Deidara...]

thats true but naruto is only begining to strategize and sasuke's been doing it since forever so in a since he wont be able to out think sasuke so he'll have to be stronger

but what i meant is that naruto as much as i hate him will go the farthest in terms of achievements a.k.a. potential