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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    I gotta funny feeling this is gonna be de ja vu from the chapter where Obito dies.

    I predict Obito is gonna help out Naruto fight Madara, Obito will die then give one of his eyes to either naruto or Kakashi. Just a guess mind you.
     
         

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    I am so cut, honestly this has put me in mega depressed mode, why obito... why?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    ok....lets do some photo review. We are working on MADARA, TOBI(Obito), ITACHI,KISAME,SASUKE and MINATO. lets see if Tobi was really the dude Itachi met and remember Kisame's story with Madara. so lets get to work: sharingan not needed here.

    1.) remember when Itachi met Madara/Tobi?. that dude was way taller than Itachi, plus the trademark Hair. So we presume that is Madara right? WAIT!

    2.) We also know Kisame is taller than Itachi, like way tall. And we know Itachi and Sasuke are practically the same height, if not, Itachi is a bit taller (remember the end of edo tensei when Itachi lean to smack his head with Itachi).
    so now we know, Kisame is taller than Itachi,and Itachi is taller than Sasuke.

    3.) Now its Tobi's turn. we know Kisame is taller than Tobi(go back and read their encounters). And Tobi is only lightly taller than Sasuke (remember when sasuke asked for Itachi's eyes and that he will crush Naruto). ok...now are you seeing where i am going?

    4.) Now is Minato's turn. He was barely taller than the Tobi he fought. Although that Tobi was slim and was wear an over-sized gown. (many presume that was Tobi)


    Now lets match them to themselves: Kisame comes first in height, then that Madara that Itachi meet, then Itachi/Minato, then Tobi, then Sasuke.
    i am bringing Sasuke in because of his encounter with both Itachi and Tobi. And from that, the Madara Itachi met could not be Tobi.

    Now its Kisame's turn. Remember when Kisame first met crazy-hair Madara. so we presume that was Madara because of his hair and timeline. and we didn't see any knmai then. (here it comes....) Kisame asked madara to show himself,which he did. Then lets go to when Tobi met with Kisame and apologized for letting him(Kisame) know last and then took off his mask. that happened just after Dideria(that taliban guy that blow things up) died in the hands of Sasuke. Kisame's reaction was, " its you Mizukage.....i mean Madara". so the big question: This means Obito (Tobi) grew a crazy hair,wasn't wearing mask when he was controlling mizukage, and actually convince Kisame he was Madara. but why all the trouble of growing that hair and later taking it off? And certainly, it was the same guy that Kisame met when he killed his comrades that he met in Akasuki after sasuke killed explosion guy. {so even if Obito is Tobi it doesn't still add up how he first met Kisame) And don't tell me kisame first met Madara because he recognised him recently when they met.

    Who is that very tall masked guy Itachi met before the distruction of Uchiha clan. And if that was Madara then he was certainly alive to be the same person Kisame met when he killed his comrade, then why did Kisame still identify him as Madara after Pein's death.

    I love Kishi, I love Naruto, but this twist is twisted.

    I have to deactivate my sharigan now before i loose stamina.
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    i love you all..........
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    i think he did it because rin died, and he entrusted kakashi and them to take care of her.
    HATE IS STRONG
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    I liked this chapter although at first I was a bit confused about the no dialogue thing. I kinda felt bad for Obito always falling behind Kakashi and him watching the girl he loved fall in love with Kakashi.
    As for the plotholes, I'm sure that Kishimoto already has a plausible explanation written down. I'm already getting tired of the "**** you kishi" threads. To those who say that it's impossible for Tobi to be Obito: are you guys the writer? Nope.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    I don't know if you noticed this. See page 6 of chapter 599 When Obito is looking at the Hokages behind. How come there's forth's sculpture! I mean he was not hokage that time!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    ? of 5
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    yes..delta 407.. on ur face.. im right u WRONG.. tobi is obito... hahaha such a loser... dumb ass****
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 600 Predictions and 599 Discussions

    Quote Originally Posted by Saiyansnake View Post
    Obito's 'Eye Of The Moon' plan is just a coverup...... He seeking revenge on Kakashi because Rin liked Kakashi instead of him :D
    maybe, NINJA LOVE PROBLEMS - GET THE WHOLE WORLD IN JEOPARDY..
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    Chapter 600 might switch over to Sasuke and Orochimaru partaking in some sort conversation. That should shed some light on the conspiracy theories.

    Tobi isn't Obito, he is in fact a warm pretzel... (that's how some of you guys sound)
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Vikki View Post
    I don't know if you noticed this. See page 6 of chapter 599 When Obito is looking at the Hokages behind. How come there's forth's sculpture! I mean he was not hokage that time!
    Maybe he was already announced to be the next hokage in konoha, but not officially appointed. Or it's just a mistake .
     
         

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    Analysis: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    ok....lets do some photo review. We are working on MADARA, TOBI(Obito), ITACHI,KISAME,SASUKE and MINATO. lets see if Tobi was really the dude Itachi met and remember Kisame's story with Madara. so lets get to work: sharingan not needed here.

    1.) remember when Itachi met Madara/Tobi?. that dude was way taller than Itachi, plus the trademark Hair. So we presume that is Madara right? WAIT!

    2.) We also know Kisame is taller than Itachi, like way tall. And we know Itachi and Sasuke are practically the same height, if not, Itachi is a bit taller (remember the end of edo tensei when Itachi lean to smack his head with Itachi).
    so now we know, Kisame is taller than Itachi,and Itachi is taller than Sasuke.

    3.) Now its Tobi's turn. we know Kisame is taller than Tobi(go back and read their encounters). And Tobi is only lightly taller than Sasuke (remember when sasuke asked for Itachi's eyes and that he will crush Naruto). ok...now are you seeing where i am going?

    4.) Now is Minato's turn. He was barely taller than the Tobi he fought. Although that Tobi was slim and was wear an over-sized gown. (many presume that was Tobi)

    Now lets match them to themselves: Kisame comes first in height, then that Madara that Itachi meet, then Itachi/Minato, then Tobi, then Sasuke.
    i am bringing Sasuke in because of his encounter with both Itachi and Tobi. And from that, the Madara Itachi met could not be Tobi.

    Now its Kisame's turn. Remember when Kisame first met crazy-hair Madara. so we presume that was Madara because of his hair and timeline. and we didn't see any knmai then. (here it comes....) Kisame asked madara to show himself,which he did. Then lets go to when Tobi met with Kisame and apologized for letting him(Kisame) know last and then took off his mask. that happened just after Dideria(that taliban guy that blow things up) died in the hands of Sasuke. Kisame's reaction was, " its you Mizukage.....i mean Madara". so the big question: This means Obito (Tobi) grew a crazy hair,wasn't wearing mask when he was controlling mizukage, and actually convince Kisame he was Madara. but why all the trouble of growing that hair and later taking it off? And certainly, it was the same guy that Kisame met when he killed his comrades that he met in Akasuki after sasuke killed explosion guy. {so even if Obito is Tobi it doesn't still add up how he first met Kisame) And don't tell me kisame first met Madara because he recognised him recently when they met.

    Who is that very tall masked guy Itachi met before the distruction of Uchiha clan. And if that was Madara then he was certainly alive to be the same person Kisame met when he killed his comrade, then why did Kisame still identify him as Madara after Pein's death.

    I love Kishi, I love Naruto, but this twist is twisted.

    I have to deactivate my sharigan now before i loose stamina.
    :ice:

    i love you all..........
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    This Tobi is Obito. However, the first Tobi was Madara who then saved Obito and made him his pupil. His will was broken from later knowing that Rin died and thus, he started walking the avenger path just like Sasuke. There are some explanations to do but it was him who fought Minato or at least it seems since that Tobi had his eye's powers.

    We all thought that the big secret was Tobi's identity but, the true secret is only beginning...

    It could have benn more epic if Tobi was Izuna or the evil son of the Sage but i think with the right twists this can also be amazing...let's trust Kishi, he has given us a great manga so far.

    One more question remains though...who will Sasuke and Orochimaru meet who has all the answers? The Sage? The son's? The Toad Sage? The Snake Sage?...

    The are so many secrets remaining...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    The real question is why did Obito choose the dark path he has taken, why didnt he go back to the leaf village!!!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by chazzykid View Post
    Why can't you guys get over the fact that it can 80+% its Obito just because his age ? he was 15 turning 16 when he attacked the village actually he was one year older then kakashi it said so he is 16 when he attacked the village and as we all know 15+ up kids kick ass in the naruto world Look at Sasuke for exp: In the time skip Naruto runs into sasuke and only with his lv3 S not even Ms yet or EMS he was able to enter Naruto's mind and even the Fox said a Power and Eyes more evil then mine you remind me of Madara right before Sasuke rips the 9 tails bubble form apart he says like if I know who that is. To make the long story short Sasuke was 16 when he got a praise from the 9 tails and that wasnt even sasuke in his Prime .. He obviously been through some upgrades in the matter of months so Why cant Obito in a matter of two years

    Heres That clip Of Sasuke and the 9 tails

    Type on youtube "Naruto Shippuden The meeting of sasuke"

    P.s excuse my grammar and stuff was typing face and its 12:40 Am over here So YAY!!! :ice::D:ice:
    No 15 or 16 year old talented young ninja kick ass and can be on the same level as one of the best Hokage ever. Stop comparing Sasuke to a garbage Obito Uchiha, because Sasuke, Itachi, Shisui, Madara and Izuna was young propect Uchiha that became all time ninja. Obito would be the first Uchiha that was average at best to become one of the greatest ninja ever. What Kishi trying to pawn him off as the Uchiha Naruto come on. Naruto is half Senju, half Uzumaki can do sage mode because he have so much chakra and was born with the 9 tail, so he is just a underachiever, but Naruto is the star of the show so he get a pass. But the top villian of a story don't get that pass, he have to have talent than go to the darkside or always been evil and born powerful, if not he will just be overrated villian, who need a bunch of power up to look good not a guy who turn to the darkside and just speed race to a top level that he was going to get to any way, this is comic 101 Kishi.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    My theory.. Madara took control of Obito's body after Kakashi left Obito crushed in the cave. it is obvious that he used his favorite jutsu of travelling thru other dimensions just in the nick of time to save Obitos body. Madara developed a jutsu for time travel, hence he appeared in different time, and manages to gather info, skills, allies and even manipulate history as he sees fit to his moon eye plan.

    But obviously at some point Madara died as he is revived by the Edo tensei. My theory is just before Madara died he transfered to Obito' body just like the way Orochimaru transfer from one body to another.

    Because Tobi got both the Senju and Uchiha (Obito's body and Hashirama's DNA combine) he manages to read and interpret the tablet created by the SOT6P that contains the Shinobi world secrets. This allowed him to learn more technique in mind, body, space and time control and manipulation.

    Just like Minato and Kushina left a part of their Chakra inside Naruto and Minato saw everything thru Naruto's eyes all this time, Obito or/and Madara) can see thru Obito's eyes. Either they can switch back and forth (like naruto and Kurama) or Madara has a complete control of Obito's body and has Obito's memories only.

    This is not a straight Obito-converted-into-Tobi progression, it is a complicated combination of 2-3 personalities using one body (Obito and Madara or Madara's brother or even the SOT6P elder son or somebody that Kishi will surprise all of us).

    If you combine Obito (body and memories) + Madara (evilness and revenge)+ the tablet of the SO6P (power and skills of the SOT6P) + Zetsu ( Senju DNA) or even the elder son of the SOT6P, all the questions and gaps regarding time difference, capabilities and the mysteries becomes one and probable, as combine they all represents all that Kishi has revealed so far.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    i had the same idea but it was 100% confirmed that Madra was killed bye the first hokage and the first hokage wasnt around when Obito was born!!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    Random thought...Rin's death was the trigger to make Obito go dark like we know...what if the first Tobi, Madara, killed her because he knew he would break Obito's will that way? Explains why Kakashi wasn't able to protect her...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 600 Predictions and 599 Discussions

    Quote Originally Posted by cyberzone10 View Post
    Kishimoto maximum trolling

    Tobi is Obito LOL

    A mask guy who can control a kyuubi in a regular sharingan

    A mask guy who has vast knowledge of uchiha clan,senju clan,sage of the six path,madara uchiha,izuna uchiha and hashirama senju.

    A mask guy who is in Kage level after 1 and half year before kyuubi attack

    A mask guy who control fourth mizukage and turn into a blood mist village

    A mask guy who seems to fool kisame,itachi ,pein and konan thinking his madara because of his long hair

    A mask guy who also fool minato thinking his madara too (lol wtf)

    A mask guy who claims his madara when his not that make the whole world (including the kages) think he is madara and declare fourth shinobi world war

    A mask guy who seems to ****ing hate the uchiha clan and kill all the uchiha members with itachi help that makes the uchiha clan nearly extinction and drove sasuke insane

    ****ing so many plot holes and yet his OBITO???? **** YOU KISHIMOTO
    although there is some plot holes some could be explained. like when he fooled kisame, it was actually madara but zetsu really. tobi used zetsu to fool kisame to think he was madara.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiercesoul View Post
    Random thought...Rin's death was the trigger to make Obito go dark like we know...what if the first Tobi, Madara, killed her because he knew he would break Obito's will that way? Explains why Kakashi wasn't able to protect her...
    we dont know how she died and as i said Madra wasnt aroung in that generation He was dead!!
     
         

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