[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

[Lamesrich]

I do not think that Tobi is obito if he is then kishi ****ed up pretty the story line he better have a really good explanation of y he choose to make tobi obito because Tobi s too old and too knowledge able unless he had some sensei on the sideline coachIng him OH EVEN THE resurrected madara uchiha seem like he knows who the masked man is keep that in mind too folks

[wonderer]

Oh also to all those who question how obito got so strong in a couple of years from being so weak. Hm.... Reminds me of someone else who used to be quite week and then after a couple years away of training, came back stronger then just about anyone, oh yeah naruto notice a theme. Naruto, Nagano, obito, all very similar backgrounds if narauto can become so strong in a few years, then why can obito an uchiha with a sharingan that we have now seen to have an awesome ability.

Well lets see um naruto has sage mode and since birth hes been a demon host. So he shoukdnt even count. But last i remember when naruto came back after 3 years of training he couldnt beat kakashi even with sakuras help. Even though he was trained by a j man. A sannin. He needed sage mode and help from frogs and hinata and the 9 tails to beat pein. But obito goes from below average to taking on the 4th freakin hokage. Yeah freakin right. Im not mad if tobi ends up really being obito. But that growth is ridiculous. Even sasukes growth comes from. Absorbing oro. Itachi implanting his MS techs. Taking itachis eyes.

[Bossman]

Damn what a foolish chapter!
That masked guy is obito!
Kishi you must be kidding
as by following the story we know that it can't be him
because obito died before the fight b/t 4th and tobi
and at that time obito was just a kid so how can be him?
So even we assume that obito didn't die then how can he grew so fast and had a full control over kyuubi? and space time jutsu and such a superb combat ability?
That can't be so stop this foolishness come to the reality.
Hoping for a better chapter!

[LaughingFace]

Damn what a foolish chapter!
That masked guy is obito!
Kishi you must be kidding
as by following the story we know that it can't be him
because obito died before the fight b/t 4th and tobi
and at that time obito was just a kid so how can be him?
So even we assume that obito didn't die then how can he grew so fast and had a full control over kyuubi? and space time jutsu and such a superb combat ability?
That can't be so stop this foolishness come to the reality.
Hoping for a better chapter!

May be Obito had training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber:flaw: where kurama occassionally takes naruto for teaching him the FTG

[Vertul]

hey everyone , i was thinking isn't it quite possible that the person who fought with 4th hokage was uchiha izuna(with the black and white mask) and he must've lead to konoha's destruction with help of kyubi . . .

And then he must've left his legacy to obito .
(just a thought no need of flaming)

[Trollito]

No duh, he was older than Itachi, Itachi isn't a factor in this part of the storyline.. Obito's seven months older than Kakashi.
It was one year, because the Nine-Tailed Fox's attack happened CURRENTLY 16 years ago. And at that time, both Kakashi and Obito would be 14. There's no page, it's simple calculation of the time of events and their age.
And yes, Kakashi was already a Jonin around the time Obito "died".

Obito wouldn't be able to read the tablet, his Sharingan wouldn't be advanced enough to decipher much of anything. Oh, and let's not forget he activated it the day he died... Even the most OP Uchiha: Sasuke, Madara, & Izuna didn't master theirs' to that degree in that short period of time, that'd just be asinine. And they were the Geniuses of the Uchiha including Itachi.. And what was Obito? A below average fodder of a failure Shinobi. There's no reasonable explanation for such a drastic change in power, height, and change in voice in less than a year..

Only excuse that could be given that's also asinine is that Obito mastered the first stage of Sharingan (Let's not forget he activated the Sharingan for the FIRST time the day he died), then totally obtained the Mangekyou Sharingan and Kamui'ed himself to safety... Which is also total bs.

U dont even know how Madara, Izuna and Itachi mastered their Sharingan.
Maybe it was just one day and they all had 3 T, maybe it was years, maybe they were born with it o_o. But one is sure. We dont know.

[Tee54]

...obito cudnt av created akatsuki,madara did...every thing was in place wen izanagi came to lifei.e uchiha madara cud av created him self during the battle with senju.
Obito cudnt even unlock his sharingan without his stupid eyedrops... Obito=minato's student,minato=jiraiya's 2nd student,pain=jiraiya's first student.
Anyways I can doubtfully believe that he is madara's apprentice,nd he is to carry on his legacy.if not how the f*** did he get senju's cells,nd hw did he kill the uchiha clan with itachi, infact I noticed dat his hair was long wen itachi approached him,only uchiha madara and choji has spiky unpacked hair.

Another plot hole is,madara's body was covered with bandages wen kisame met him...Wich explains obito's broken bones from the incident with Kakashi nd rin,well I still believe,it is not obito.because tobi said he sustained grave injuries from his battle with hashirama senju nd his body was just a "shell" of his old self,at the five kage summit .pls does anybody knw wat a shell means? Coz I av too many freeking interpretations for it.

[Mukade]

I think i was suspecting Tobi to be Obito long before he fought Konan. It was a stupid idea, but at least i wasn't wrong. It all came from Kakashi having a left sharingan eye and Tobi having a right sharingan eye...and both eyes looked the same.
But then i saw the fight with the 4th, where Tobi was older than Obito for the curent timeline. Again when he fought Konan having both eyes.

So in conclusion: If Tobi is Obito, the artist is ignoring alot of things that point twoards him NOT being Obito.
I mean sure anyone can have Uchiha eyes right ? Danzo had 20 of them or something like that.
I mean sure anyone can change bodies...Orochimaru did it right ? why not Obito when was just just a teenager injured to death with his right side of the body crused...but he pulled trough...he changed his body having only one of his eyes...
I mean sure anyone can learn about Madara and the secret behind the Mugen Tsukuyomi and the whole life story
I mean, a near death boy trapped under a rock with his right half body crushed while missing his left eye could have done all of the above right ?!

WRONG. If this is the case...if Tobi turns out to be Obito (and not someone close/dear to him using his face/body) then the artist did a shitty job with this character.
Suddenly all half dead little boys can develop GOD-LIKE powers and age their body 15 years in like no time. Just so he could seem more age appropriate to Minato (while fighting him)
Let's not forget that after Kakashi gets the eye from Obito, we see a mountain of boulders falling onto Obito, being buried half-alive under tons of rubble and boulders...
So the question is:
Does anybody else see the flaws in the story here? How a half dead boy buried under tons of rock could have survive and did all the god-like above things.
Sorry but if he turns out to be Obito Uchiha, i have this to say to Kishi:
Areyou****ingkiddingme.jpg

[Senju Sei]

okay first of all **** u kishi for being such a troll. any and everybody new it was obito 5 chapters before it happend first it was u dont remember faces the the hero with the sharingan then the chapter before was basacly saying he is obito but with the mask still on. kishi couldve made someone that saved him ( kagami or izuna) and be manipulating him till this point also he could add a twist with it about 3 mask and 3 people or 2 people or whatever bull shit he wants

[Senju Sei]

I think i was suspecting Tobi to be Obito long before he fought Konan. It was a stupid idea, but at least i wasn't wrong. It all came from Kakashi having a left sharingan eye and Tobi having a right sharingan eye...and both eyes looked the same.
But then i saw the fight with the 4th, where Tobi was older than Obito for the curent timeline. Again when he fought Konan having both eyes.

So in conclusion: If Tobi is Obito, the artist is ignoring alot of things that point twoards him NOT being Obito.
I mean sure anyone can have Uchiha eyes right ? Danzo had 20 of them or something like that.
I mean sure anyone can change bodies...Orochimaru did it right ? why not Obito when was just just a teenager injured to death with his right side of the body crused...but he pulled trough...he changed his body having only one of his eyes...
I mean sure anyone can learn about Madara and the secret behind the Mugen Tsukuyomi and the whole life story
I mean, a near death boy trapped under a rock with his right half body crushed while missing his left eye could have done all of the above right ?!

WRONG. If this is the case...if Tobi turns out to be Obito (and not someone close/dear to him using his face/body) then the artist did a shitty job with this character.
Suddenly all half dead little boys can develop GOD-LIKE powers and age their body 15 years in like no time. Just so he could seem more age appropriate to Minato (while fighting him)
Let's not forget that after Kakashi gets the eye from Obito, we see a mountain of boulders falling onto Obito, being buried half-alive under tons of rubble and boulders...
So the question is:
Does anybody else see the flaws in the story here? How a half dead boy buried under tons of rock could have survive and did all the god-like above things.
Sorry but if he turns out to be Obito Uchiha, i have this to say to Kishi:
Areyou****ingkiddingme.jpg

yh man agree with u 100 percent

[Allcustom240]

I wonder how he survived a 20 ton so rock that crushed half his body and having his left eye removed. there MUST be somebody else who's stronger!!

[karbiaaa]

**** it is just impossible,no way dat tobi could be obito

[Rain1123]

He was still a boy when he became a jonin so you get your facts straight. Go back and check his age.

[Rain1123]

it actually showed kakashi and guy fighting as jonin right before the attack........... GET UR FACTS STRAIT

He was still a boy when he became a jonin and was fighting back then so you get your facts straight. Go and check his age.

[squigles]

**** it is just impossible,no way dat tobi could be obito

It was such an obvious troll on Kishi's part, and such an 'obvious' of who Tobi really was, with such obvious contradictions, that right now it's also obvious that Tobi isn't really Obito. It may be his body, it might be a clone, it might be a little of both. However, the fact of the matter is that the way the storyline plays out, there is absolutely zero explanation that would draw a conclusion between Tobi and the very same Obito who died at the Hanabi bridge. There just isn't any possible explanation that offers up that conclusion without completely destroying the established canon.

Factually, there are several indicators within the storyline itself that point to Tobi NOT being Obito, despite looking like him.

[Natsu Titania]

If you think about they dropped hints in earlier chapters that "tobi" was really Obito

[seyren01]

but thats impossible @_@.... how old is obito when tobi release the kyuubi from kushina during naruto's birth?? obito is the same age as kakashi and RIN... so how the f*ck did obit control the kyuubi and fought minato at a high level battle...!!!!!!!!!!!

[fasi Rock]

madara was killed by someone ? but who.?
yes its obvious that he must be powerfull enough to beat (madara with rinnegun) and also got hold of his rinnegun ...( as tobi said konan that he was the 1 who gave rinnegun to nagato)
tobi is some one who is using some kind of jutsu like orochimaru to transfer in someone's body specialy Uchiha . thats how he surived till today...
one thing more about edo madara when he resurctd, said that something is not going according to plan and mensioned someone (unkonwn).????...
and also when nagato used rinne rebirth for leaf village than in responce tobi said ,"this jutsu should have used for my sake.... "
and also tobi knows a lot abt the 10 tails and how to revive it .....
tobi said that he was the one who gave nagato the rinnegan... nagat had rinnegan since he was child... than how obito did that?
tobi had different sharingan at the time of controlling 4th mizukage some what like shisui's...

its the proof of tobi being still being a mistry...... he has alot to answer so wait for next chapters till its clear..
my guess is that he is elder son of SO6P or may be izuna uchiha......... but 1st seems more preise

[TheOneTheOnly]

Probably obito discussing why he became tobi and how he survived

[-Haku Yuki-]

don't take that photo serious i was glad it wa sobito

OT kishi has alot of explaining to do

[KyubiSage]

This can't be true!!! It just doesn't add up a number of ways. He was way to young to fight the 4th. They showed a scene when that happened and Kakashi and Guy's generation were all teenagers. The masked man who fought the fourth and who is not the same person or is using a differen body. There are still many explanations open to why this is. So hold on Obito fans. I still have my money riding in Izuna or the Uchia's original ancestor.


1. The real Gillian is using Oro's immortality Jutsu. If you remember Oro etherearned or developed it from the scroll in the Leaf when the 3rfet him go. So that leads me to believe that someone had developed it before. Maybe he's just using Obito's body. We have seen him use Zetsu arms mtie times it is very possible

2. This Obito body is actually a dead body like with Pain. We have easy seen one stake in him. Who's to say there aren't others. I can't explain why a dead body would age though but crazy things happen in the Narutoverse.

Just some theories, but I'm still not buying the Obito thing. Next chapter will have some crazy exaining to do.

[miky617]

Allow me to personally apologize to all the people that got scolded for believein it to be Obito.
Reasons i didn't think it was obito:
1. Plotholes
2. Timeline
3. Lack of motive
4. Known troll
5. Too obvious

I'll check the news for mass suicides and riots in Japan now. But if you think about it...Obito is such a surprise BECAUSE....it was so pushed that most of us EXPECTED it to not be him. Then when it was proven, it was a double subversion of a twist, getting us from behind. Kishi, you sly dog. Now there's still the chance that it really is just Obito's body, and it's being controlled by someone else, but here is what I think happened (Wiki helped me formulate this):

Madara fights Hashirama. Loses. Lives, barely, but has DNA. Goes into hiding and cultivates Hashi clone which helps spawn Zetsu. Plus he extends his own life. Begins collecting sharingan in secret. Develops Rinnegan and gives it to Nagato, an Uzumaki. Also helps Yahiko form Akatsuki. Replaces his eyes with sharingan and midwipes him from their memory. Goes on to control Mizukage and make Bloody Mist.(explains timeline) Meanwhile, Zetsu is watching Minato for a chance at his wife to get back Kyubi. Watches Obito fall. Zetsu saves him and Madara takes interest. Madara begins training him in the ways of the sharingan, about the Uchiha and history. Sparks hate in Obito. (motive) Together, they form the alias "Tobi" and take turns at it. (explains hair). Madara tells Obito how to summon Bijuu and tells him to retrieve 9 Tails. obito fails, and comes back, where Zetsu fixes him up again (explains white goop). Madara helps Itachi exterminate Uchiha. Madara dies (perhaps he let Obito kill him). Obito takes his knowledge and uses it to convince everyone he's Madara. and the rest is history. The only thing NOT explainable is how he said he awakened Rinnegan shortly before his death. But i think for the most part this is how it went down. Tobi was never just 1 person. Oh, btw, i didn't read the entire thread, so if this is similar to someone elses theory, great minds think alike.

No one read my post...

[miky617]

don't take that photo serious i was glad it wa sobito

OT kishi has alot of explaining to do

GLAD???? If i recall, you were the one that made that long and very smart post about why he WASN'T Obito (which i was completely with you on). Now you say ur glad? Check your reps if you don't remember which one i'm talking about

[KyubiSage]

Besides the fighting styles are. O where near close. We can see now that the real Madara will come directly at you to test out your strength and use a large number of justus. He won't rely on one gimmick jutsu. It's not his style.

[Uchiha Frasstonian]

there hss to be another person involved especially at the time of fighting the fourth. i agree zetsu may have found obito and brought hi to madara bcuz lets face aa real uchiha body is better to use than any other. together they go around setting p akatsuki and training obto to be the strong mo****er we see today. only madara can or knew how to jus rip the nine tails out and only he has had the power to control it. if you notice as soon as madara was on the field kurama noticed right away. alllllll this time tobi has been around kurama never once even stuuck hhis nose at him. toe that proves tobi is more than one person. started as madara ended as obito.