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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

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    i have a question and don't feel i should make a new topic over it since this thread is for discussing the chapter. why does everyone say its not kakashi's flash back? seeing someone you thought long gone right in front of you would normally bring flash backs of them. and it shows how kakashi got the FTG kunai from the 4th which has nothing to do with Tobi unless its just showing that he was jealous.
    perhaps....you know thar Kishi is a master in trolling people...I have the strange feeling that we will see something BIG tomorrow...as you said, maybe it's just a flashback of kakashi...you saw Kakashis's face...he was simply shocked....but who knows...maybe it's not Obito himself....maybe it is someone who found obito's dead body and took it over....my prediction is that this guy is Madara Uchiha....just in another body I mean I cannot believe that this guy is Obito...I mean can you expalin how Obito(Tobi) has grown so much during the fight against his sensei (4th hokage)...and can you explain how Obito got to know all the secrets of the Uchiha/Senju controversy.....and how does he know about the juubi...As I said earlier Kishi trolls us too much....we will see tomorrow...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    I'm absolutely 100% sure that tobi is not obito..

    Madara unlocked his rinnegan shortly before his death.. i still assume that nagato's eyeballs were madara's.

    Which means madara died somewhere between WW1 and WW2.
    Obito 'died' in WW3..

    There needs to have been a tobi from the moment madara died.. no one is going to tell me that that timegap is filled by zetsu or something.. cause if zetsu teached obito everything he's in no way going to become tobi's slave, like he is now.

    there must be someone (tobi) using obito's body, having taken over the body orochimaru style, why obito? probably because he needed an uchiha and obito was there to pick up outside of konoha.

    I also still believe that the plan was to bring madara back to life in tobi's body how they were planning to do that, we'll probably get to know later..

    That's why tobi was mad saying nagato was supposed to use rinne tensei on him and why madara when walking out of the coffin said that little brat nagato must have grown..

    All that or it is obito and he is influenced by a kotoamatsukami-like genjutsu being cast on him by the previous tobi, passing the torch.

    The question still is: WHO THE HELL IS TOBI?
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    Just received word Kishi is taking a 2 week vacay before writing again, no manga for 3 weeks......Syke!

    I'm guessing that's what they mean by trolling lol

    Was Tobi lying to Sasuke when he said he wasn't responsible for the attack on the Leaf 16 yrs before hand? If so, he may be lying about alot that we don't know about yet.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    I'm absolutely 100% sure that tobi is not obito..

    Madara unlocked his rinnegan shortly before his death.. i still assume that nagato's eyeballs were madara's.

    Which means madara died somewhere between WW1 and WW2.
    Obito 'died' in WW3..

    There needs to have been a tobi from the moment madara died.. no one is going to tell me that that timegap is filled by zetsu or something.. cause if zetsu teached obito everything he's in no way going to become tobi's slave, like he is now.

    there must be someone (tobi) using obito's body, having taken over the body orochimaru style, why obito? probably because he needed an uchiha and obito was there to pick up outside of konoha.

    I also still believe that the plan was to bring madara back to life in tobi's body how they were planning to do that, we'll probably get to know later..

    That's why tobi was mad saying nagato was supposed to use rinne tensei on him and why madara when walking out of the coffin said that little brat nagato must have grown..

    All that or it is obito and he is influenced by a kotoamatsukami-like genjutsu being cast on him by the previous tobi, passing the torch.

    The question still is: WHO THE HELL IS TOBI?

    EDIT: @Ranificent.. you're serious?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by SixPathsOfTobi View Post
    I'm absolutely 100% sure that tobi is not obito..

    Madara unlocked his rinnegan shortly before his death.. i still assume that nagato's eyeballs were madara's.

    Which means madara died somewhere between WW1 and WW2.
    Obito 'died' in WW3..

    There needs to have been a tobi from the moment madara died.. no one is going to tell me that that timegap is filled by zetsu or something.. cause if zetsu teached obito everything he's in no way going to become tobi's slave, like he is now.

    there must be someone (tobi) using obito's body, having taken over the body orochimaru style, why obito? probably because he needed an uchiha and obito was there to pick up outside of konoha.

    I also still believe that the plan was to bring madara back to life in tobi's body how they were planning to do that, we'll probably get to know later..

    That's why tobi was mad saying nagato was supposed to use rinne tensei on him and why madara when walking out of the coffin said that little brat nagato must have grown..

    All that or it is obito and he is influenced by a kotoamatsukami-like genjutsu being cast on him by the previous tobi, passing the torch.

    The question still is: WHO THE HELL IS TOBI?

    EDIT: @Ranificent.. you're serious?
    you really had to repost your whole comment just to ask if he was serious? 0.o
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    ! Serious about what? He tells Sasuke that Itachi lied to him when he told him Tobi attacked the Leaf with the Kyuubi, yet we see him do just that when he fights the 4th. So my Q is if he was lying about that, what else could he have lied about? I see everyone posting timeline issues and quoting Tobi but I think it's been proven he lies
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 600 Predictions and 599 Discussions

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    i forgot to say this I TOLD YOU SOO
    THANK YOU SOO MUCH AT LEAST SOMEONE SEES IT :shrug:
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    Have you considered that maybe Tobi was telling the truth? We know for a fact that there was a "masked man" who we assume is the same "Tobi". So the current Tobi denies attacking the hidden leaf 16 years ago could that not mean it was someone else at the time? He knows fully well exactly what happened but denies it was him for what purpose?

    The only flaw in thinking it was someone else was the s/p kamui abilities used at that time linking both that masked man and Tobi together. The only real answers to come from that is thinking that someone is using obito's eye back then or someone holds the same ability as kamui (very unlikely). If infact lets say kagami/izuna we're related to obito would they have a chance of having the kamui ability in their family?

    I find it virtually impossible for anyone to have progressed so far in 3 years. Naruto our main character who has shown to have one of the highest progression rates learnt odama rasengan and improved his skills quite a bit over 3 years with jiraiya. But he was quite decent before that considering he'd taken down gaara. Even sasuke over 3 years with orochimaru become much faster, skilled with swordsmanship and his usage of chidori. However neither of them could progress as much as obito "apparently" did. Even with madara as a mentor, there's only so much he could awaken for him. What "best friend" would obito of had to kill? I doubt he'd kill rin unless he was completely mind ****ed but if he killed rin, what is his motive for hating kakashi? How is he able to use his kamui without activating the sharingan? These things not even madara or itachi have been seen to be capable of...

    The Tobi who formed the akatsuki and groomed nagato and yahiko into becoming the founders and the tobi who fought minato CAN NOT be the same Obito-tobi we see here and now. However, the tobi who met itachi had long hair and almost definetly possessed,as the kages said, "kotomatsukami" (sorry if I spelt it wrong0. Which is shisui's ms ability which was used on the mizukage/3 tails jinchuuriki yaguura. So the long haired masked man has shisui's ms ability... Was it shisui at an earlier stage maybe before he became good? Unlikely. Could it be danzo? Maybe. Did danzo mix in with the wrong people and do a lot of dirty work? Definetly. So what if danzo has "loaned" shisui's eye to Tobi which shows their connection and how they know each other. Danzo's motive is clear, control over a mizukage and destroying a village from within sounds about right for him. That may of been Madara or even Izuna?

    And I don't know if many of you looked into the reasoning for obito but its pretty stupid. His infinite tsukyonomi plan achieves what for him? Create a world with peace and no wars? He was a kid during the only war he'd been in and he didn't even die in that war? I can only see rin as his motive, but why not just target kakashi for that? Acquire immense knowledge and power, try to become like the sage himself, start shinobi wars, kill countless people, massacre clans all for the sake of 1 girl? A little over the top there kishi...

    To sum it up, I don't think its plain and simple tobi = obito... If it isn't obito, I sense a pattern... Tobi is Madara, oh wait...hes not? Tobi is Obito! Oh wait...hes not!
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions



    BODY CHANGE!!!!!!!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

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    BODY CHANGE!!!!!!!
    :lmao:

    I agree with you though, that's what I am thinking. I just hope something big will be revealed tomorrow. The plot will thicken, that's for sure.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by JuvenileSin View Post
    you really had to repost your whole comment just to ask if he was serious? 0.o
    .. i was not going to let it happen that i typed my first post here so that someone can post it away to the previous page within a single second.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranificent View Post
    ! Serious about what? He tells Sasuke that Itachi lied to him when he told him Tobi attacked the Leaf with the Kyuubi, yet we see him do just that when he fights the 4th. So my Q is if he was lying about that, what else could he have lied about? I see everyone posting timeline issues and quoting Tobi but I think it's been proven he lies
    i meant are you serious that there is no naruto for 3 weeks..

    EDIT: or was that the trolling you were talking about?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Koha View Post
    o.O ... Nah, he resurrected Orochimaru to take him to "The one who knows everything". Somehow, I think Orochimaru has nothing to due with this plot.. If he did, there wouldn't be any need to wanna steal Sasuke's body. Well... One Sharingan wouldn't really satisfy Orochimaru but yeah. :x
    by that time, orichimaru is still experimenting about that forbidden jutsu, he cannot test it directly to himself because of lack of data, when he found out that the jutsu is complete, that's the time he became interested in uchiha's body.

    maybe Obito is just one of his guinea pigs for madara's cell, just like what he did to senju hashirama's cell, (YAMATO, Danzo and maybe zetsu which is untold story - how zetsu is created and who do it to him)
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by SixPathsOfTobi View Post
    I'm absolutely 100% sure that tobi is not obito..

    Madara unlocked his rinnegan shortly before his death.. i still assume that nagato's eyeballs were madara's.

    Which means madara died somewhere between WW1 and WW2.
    Obito 'died' in WW3..

    There needs to have been a tobi from the moment madara died.. no one is going to tell me that that timegap is filled by zetsu or something.. cause if zetsu teached obito everything he's in no way going to become tobi's slave, like he is now.

    there must be someone (tobi) using obito's body, having taken over the body orochimaru style, why obito? probably because he needed an uchiha and obito was there to pick up outside of konoha.

    I also still believe that the plan was to bring madara back to life in tobi's body how they were planning to do that, we'll probably get to know later..

    That's why tobi was mad saying nagato was supposed to use rinne tensei on him and why madara when walking out of the coffin said that little brat nagato must have grown..

    All that or it is obito and he is influenced by a kotoamatsukami-like genjutsu being cast on him by the previous tobi, passing the torch.

    The question still is: WHO THE HELL IS TOBI?

    EDIT: @Ranificent.. you're serious?
    i totally agree with u. It doesn't add up I think there is a third party Edo madara mention nagato and a third person. This is strictly a gut feeling there is someone above madara pulling the strings.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    ok imma shut everybody down,.. tobi is not obito, why i say because ITACHI said himself that he burned madara's mouth wit the black flames. and i didnt see burn marks on tobi's mouth. but dont worry its gonna be someone we least expect.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by SixPathsOfTobi View Post
    i meant are you serious that there is no naruto for 3 weeks..

    EDIT: or was that the trolling you were talking about?
    Yeah, the trolling, I'm still learning all the fancy computer lingo lol
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

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    BODY CHANGE!!!!!!!
    This......LMAO at the Capt. Ginyu ref but you make a great point. I think Kishi will have to go this route in order to link all the plot holes together. I can't see any other explanation.

    ...Or, in a crazy twist, could Tobi really be Ginyu?! LoL!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    The Tobi that fought Minato and the current Tobi are obviously different people. In Tobi vs Minato...emphasis was placed on showing Tobi's ungloved hands. Especially when he was using the chains and the close up when he went to grab Minato just before he got pawned by rasengan. Unmasked Tobi(Obito?) has been wearing gloves the whole time. It is possible that Obito inherited Kamui from his father(whoever that is) because Gaara has the same ability as his father and so does the Raikage...and don't forget that Naruto has recently gained all his father's abilities.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    next chapter going to be awesome
    its gonnna make u all obito lovers cry.....
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by theph0necompany View Post


    BODY CHANGE!!!!!!!
    I agree with you...

    Captain Ginyu is main culprit here....

    He just traveled from time space machine to body change with obito.... s...

    To defeat Goku.... :noc:
     
         

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