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    So tobi is obito. Wait and see the explanation!!!

    so many people are complaining and still saying that there is no way for tobi to be obito. you all need to stop complaining! the debates over. tobi is obito, just admit it. and to those of you saying "he couldn't have gotten that strong" or "he's too young to be the one that attacked konoha" and all that...well here you go:

    1. obito couldn't have gotten strong enough to take on minato:
    well the time difference between obito's "death" and the attack on the 9-tailed fox is 3+ years (kakashi was only 13 at kannabi bridge and he's noticeably a young adult at the time of the foxes attack). take a look at how much more powerful sasuke, naruto, and sakura got during the 3 year time skip. you wanna tell me obito (who was possibly trained by madara, which explains all of his knowledge of the uchiha clans history, or some other highly skilled criminal) can't get more powerful in 3 years? he was already shown to be a natural at using the sharingan in battle. this also debunks the "obito is too young to be the one that attacked konoha" theory because if he was 16 - 18, he'd be mostly fully grown (in terms of height). also, i highly doubt it was the real madara that attacked the village cuz he probably would've done a little bit better in a fight against minato.

    2. tobi gave nagato the rinnegan:
    so its already been shown that he was a pathological liar. when he fought konan, it wasn't revealed that madara was actually dead and tobi wasn't actually madara. its not possible at all that it could've all just been a lie to keep up the madara persona...right?

    3. zetsu:
    his entire right side is messed up. his arm and leg probably aren't real. we've already seen that his right arm just grows back like zetsu does whenever he loses a body part. seems to fit. madara used the fight against the first to steal hashiramas dna. he used that to create zetsu and also to patch up obito after he somehow came in contact with him. I'm sure that part will be explained in a later chapter (hopefully 600)

    4. tobi had long hair during the uchiha clan massacre:
    and sakura had long hair before the chunin exams! so this sakura that has shorter hair can't be the real sakura! really? a character isn't allowed to change his appearance? look at choji. after the time skip he all of a sudden had long hair. this is naruto, not dragonball z. the characters are allowed to change their hairstyle if they want to, it isn't stuck that way for life.

    thats about all i can come up with off the top of my head. if anyone wants to debate this at all Ill be more than happy to. feel free to post with your own ideas and/or explanations. just stop with the whole tobi STILL isn't obito thing. he is. if he isn't then why make a chapter dedicated to showing his life?
     
         

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    Re: So tobi is obito. Wait and see the explanation!!!

    You answered it your self, lets wait.
     
         

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    Re: So tobi is obito. Wait and see the explanation!!!

    We are still not 100% sure yet. Just wait.
     
         

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    Re: So tobi is obito. Wait and see the explanation!!!

    yeah it can be obito but not without the help of someone else.... has to be zetsu but how did madara steal hashiras cells then just HOPE that some uchiha will come along to use the as a vessel....

    has to be some space time shit happening
     
         

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    Re: So tobi is obito. Wait and see the explanation!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by konte811 View Post
    so many people are complaining and still saying that there is no way for tobi to be obito. you all need to stop complaining! the debates over. tobi is obito, just admit it. and to those of you saying "he couldn't have gotten that strong" or "he's too young to be the one that attacked konoha" and all that...well here you go:

    1. obito couldn't have gotten strong enough to take on minato:
    well the time difference between obito's "death" and the attack on the 9-tailed fox is 3+ years (kakashi was only 13 at kannabi bridge and he's noticeably a young adult at the time of the foxes attack). take a look at how much more powerful sasuke, naruto, and sakura got during the 3 year time skip. you wanna tell me obito (who was possibly trained by madara, which explains all of his knowledge of the uchiha clans history, or some other highly skilled criminal) can't get more powerful in 3 years? he was already shown to be a natural at using the sharingan in battle. this also debunks the "obito is too young to be the one that attacked konoha" theory because if he was 16 - 18, he'd be mostly fully grown (in terms of height). also, i highly doubt it was the real madara that attacked the village cuz he probably would've done a little bit better in a fight against minato.

    2. tobi gave nagato the rinnegan:
    so its already been shown that he was a pathological liar. when he fought konan, it wasn't revealed that madara was actually dead and tobi wasn't actually madara. its not possible at all that it could've all just been a lie to keep up the madara persona...right?

    3. zetsu:
    his entire right side is messed up. his arm and leg probably aren't real. we've already seen that his right arm just grows back like zetsu does whenever he loses a body part. seems to fit. madara used the fight against the first to steal hashiramas dna. he used that to create zetsu and also to patch up obito after he somehow came in contact with him. I'm sure that part will be explained in a later chapter (hopefully 600)

    4. tobi had long hair during the uchiha clan massacre:
    and sakura had long hair before the chunin exams! so this sakura that has shorter hair can't be the real sakura! really? a character isn't allowed to change his appearance? look at choji. after the time skip he all of a sudden had long hair. this is naruto, not dragonball z. the characters are allowed to change their hairstyle if they want to, it isn't stuck that way for life.

    thats about all i can come up with off the top of my head. if anyone wants to debate this at all Ill be more than happy to. feel free to post with your own ideas and/or explanations. just stop with the whole tobi STILL isn't obito thing. he is. if he isn't then why make a chapter dedicated to showing his life?
    back in days we thought he was a stupid kid, then madara, then obito..

    chapter 600 will show us the truth
     
         

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    Re: So tobi is obito. Wait and see the explanation!!!

    there we go.
     
         

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    Re: So tobi is obito. Wait and see the explanation!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by konte811 View Post
    if anyone wants to debate this at all Ill be more than happy to. feel free to post with your own ideas and/or explanations. just stop with the whole tobi STILL isn't obito thing. he is. if he isn't then why make a chapter dedicated to showing his life?
    you contradicted yourself. Feel free to debate, but not about Tobi not being obito. That's what this threads about! Derp
     
         

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    Re: So tobi is obito. Wait and see the explanation!!!

    Yeah I agree with everything said. Madara cannot possibly be the one who attacked because he died shortly after obtaining Rinnegan. I guess he gave Nagato those eyes and that was during the Second World War. So by the time of the attack Madara was dead. People just believe that Tobi is old because of the Japanese/English voice actors. Lmao Aaaaaaall a cover up!
     
         

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    Re: So tobi is obito. Wait and see the explanation!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ElectroG View Post
    yeah it can be obito but not without the help of someone else.... has to be zetsu but how did madara steal hashiras cells then just HOPE that some uchiha will come along to use the as a vessel....

    has to be some space time shit happening
    Awww shit this girl in your sig is really nice!

    Anyways, nice explanation. +Rep!
     
         

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    Re: So tobi is obito. Wait and see the explanation!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Yusuke Urameshi View Post
    you contradicted yourself. Feel free to debate, but not about Tobi not being obito. That's what this threads about! Derp
    ok so let me rephrase that so a 5 year old can understand: please feel free to post your own ideas/explanations of what you think happened to obito. DERP. you really can't debate that its obito. the entire chapter was dedicated to a quick flashback of obitos life and in the end it says HIS NAME IS OBITO.

    just look at how the other characters changed in a 3 year period, do the rules just not apply to obito?

    also someone brought up an interesting point. if madara gave nagato the rinnegan, he mustve died during or just before the 2nd world war. its gonna be interesting how this pans out. i really wanna see who saved obito from the rock (if anyone. maybe he found a way out himself).

    also, just some proof that the fox attack is a few years after the kannabi bridge incident.

    kakashi during kakashi gaiden:
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/243/4

    kakashi a few minutes before the 9 tails attack:
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/502/2

    ones drawn the way naruto was drawn when he was 13, the other is drawn the way he is now that he's 16 - 17 - 18 - how old is naruto now? seriously has he been 16 for 3 years now? sorry add moment right there. either way its definitely been a few years since obito "died" when the fox attack happened.
     
         

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    Re: So tobi is obito. Wait and see the explanation!!!

    I believe that Tobi/Obito is not the main antagonist. I believe that madara's younger brother is the one that trained Obito. I believe this because the author never just throws in random characters, it's always for a reason. Izuna has been mentioned, but never really built upon. If you remember, once the real Madara was resurrected, he had a comment/thought that said something like ", he must have proceeded with the plan. Who else would he have been talking about? Madara was dead before Obito was born, so it could not have been him as we have been lead to believe. Also, being trained by Izuna would explain perfectly why obito became so powerful. The mystery behind tobi is now gone, and his jutsu is explained, leading me to believe that he will be defeated/killed soon, and the two brother's, Izuna and Madara will wreck havoc...Izuna probably has been collecting eyes to replace the ones his brother stole, this is probably who the 4th fought (peep the hair style). Izuna strength was also on par with Madara's. It would not be in the author's style to have a character that powerful, that did not play a major role in the story somehow...just my thoughts
     
         
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    Re: So tobi is obito. Wait and see the explanation!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by aliasbleek View Post
    I believe that Tobi/Obito is not the main antagonist. I believe that madara's younger brother is the one that trained Obito. I believe this because the author never just throws in random characters, it's always for a reason. Izuna has been mentioned, but never really built upon. If you remember, once the real Madara was resurrected, he had a comment/thought that said something like ", he must have proceeded with the plan. Who else would he have been talking about? Madara was dead before Obito was born, so it could not have been him as we have been lead to believe. Also, being trained by Izuna would explain perfectly why obito became so powerful. The mystery behind tobi is now gone, and his jutsu is explained, leading me to believe that he will be defeated/killed soon, and the two brother's, Izuna and Madara will wreck havoc...Izuna probably has been collecting eyes to replace the ones his brother stole, this is probably who the 4th fought (peep the hair style). Izuna strength was also on par with Madara's. It would not be in the author's style to have a character that powerful, that did not play a major role in the story somehow...just my thoughts
    very true. watch izuna make an appearance. i hope he does. i have a feeling him and madara vs naruto and sasuke would be awesome. susanoo + 9 tailed fox vs perfect susanoo + izunas most powerful tech? AWESOME! lets see whats in store for us
     
         

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    Re: So tobi is obito. Wait and see the explanation!!!

    patience !
     
         

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    Re: So tobi is obito. Wait and see the explanation!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by aliasbleek View Post
    I believe that Tobi/Obito is not the main antagonist. I believe that madara's younger brother is the one that trained Obito. I believe this because the author never just throws in random characters, it's always for a reason. Izuna has been mentioned, but never really built upon. If you remember, once the real Madara was resurrected, he had a comment/thought that said something like ", he must have proceeded with the plan. Who else would he have been talking about? Madara was dead before Obito was born, so it could not have been him as we have been lead to believe. Also, being trained by Izuna would explain perfectly why obito became so powerful. The mystery behind tobi is now gone, and his jutsu is explained, leading me to believe that he will be defeated/killed soon, and the two brother's, Izuna and Madara will wreck havoc...Izuna probably has been collecting eyes to replace the ones his brother stole, this is probably who the 4th fought (peep the hair style). Izuna strength was also on par with Madara's. It would not be in the author's style to have a character that powerful, that did not play a major role in the story somehow...just my thoughts
    Not a bad theory at all. Then again I'm wary of complex theories in Naruto now with any signs of intelligence.
     
         

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