[Theory] THEORY - "the one who knows everything"

[Imovelikejack]

Could the one who know everything perhaps be...... Hiruzen Sarutobi?

I don't got any relieable facts, so it's a very unreliable theory - but i thought i would share it with you guys!

What does sasuke want to know? EVERYTHING behind the Uchicha massacre.... we have heard about the uchicha massacre from many different people; Itachi, Danzo and Tobi (possible more, can't remember).... But we haven't heard it from Hiruzen.

I mean.... we actually don't know much about hiruzen - kishi killed him off with an open-ending, therefore not really explaining his background in his prime or his fully explained relationship with Orochimaru OR his point of view on the uchicha massacre....

The importance of the scroll isen't Orochimaru, Sasuke just need Orochimaru to do something for him, something that Orochimaru has been involved in - Orochimaru was indeed involved with Hiruzen - he knew alot about Hiruzen, so perhaps the scroll is related to him!

(note: Hiruzen knew alot about the uchicha massacre which could give Sasuke some anwsers + i believe he knew quite alot about Hashirma and Madara + Hiruzen knows what a "clan, village and shinobi is" - Sasuke apparently doesn't)


Just a thought - I KNOW HIS FREAKING SOUL IS SEALED - but, but when talking about Orochimaru - ANYTHING is possible!

[AP2k]

Hes not the one in this context, but he was called the proffesor, if any of the hokages come back it would probably be him or hashi

[gordo1]

It's very unlikely due to the death reaper seal, but you are right. Anything is possible with Oro.

[HashiramaDescendant]

Oh, hell. Here comes the stampede of Hiruzen fanboys.

[Imovelikejack]

Oh, hell. Here comes the stampede of Hiruzen fanboys.

- i'm not a hiruzen fanboy

[saaaaaadpanda]

Yeah, great theory. *****

[Cfighter]

The scroll does regard Orochimaru, when Suigetsu found it he said "Orochimaru even considered this?". Its not a bad theory, I just dont think its the case. Especially because when Sasuke read the scroll he thought of Itachi and Shusui, which the 3rd really woulnt "know everything" about, not to that extent. Also when Sasuke read it he said "this is it - the one who knows everything", out of everyone regarding the Uchiha and their secrets, Hiruzen just doesnt strike me as the kind of person to go "this is it, this will answer everything" or "we can rule the entire world with this".

But hey, who knows

[EliteKakashi]

I can't see them finding a way to summon him. Kishi completely ruining the point of Shiki Fuujin would cause a lot of rage too. I mean, defying the Death God? Just can't see it.

[LostForver06]

Ok so Sasuke wants to find Orochimaru after he already killed him. What exactly is in this for Sasuke? Like you said he already knows everything about the massacare (Itachi even had Sasuke see everything through his eyes). SO what Sasuke wants to learn everything from this "someone" in hopes of...what defeating Madara? He seemes pretty mad when Suigetsu mentioned Madara still being alive

[Hipster Madara]

Maybe. That would be interesting.

[Prince of Persia TTT]

Could the one who know everything perhaps be...... Hiruzen Sarutobi?

I don't got any relieable facts, so it's a very unreliable theory - but i thought i would share it with you guys!

What does sasuke want to know? EVERYTHING behind the Uchicha massacre.... we have heard about the uchicha massacre from many different people; Itachi, Danzo and Tobi (possible more, can't remember).... But we haven't heard it from Hiruzen.

I mean.... we actually don't know much about hiruzen - kishi killed him off with an open-ending, therefore not really explaining his background in his prime or his fully explained relationship with Orochimaru OR his point of view on the uchicha massacre....

The importance of the scroll isen't Orochimaru, Sasuke just need Orochimaru to do something for him, something that Orochimaru has been involved in - Orochimaru was indeed involved with Hiruzen - he knew alot about Hiruzen, so perhaps the scroll is related to him!

(note: Hiruzen knew alot about the uchicha massacre which could give Sasuke some anwsers + i believe he knew quite alot about Hashirma and Madara + Hiruzen knows what a "clan, village and shinobi is" - Sasuke apparently doesn't)


Just a thought - I KNOW HIS FREAKING SOUL IS SEALED - but, but when talking about Orochimaru - ANYTHING is possible!

this is not only about jutsus and sh*t
it is about everything and that is oro and not that old hag

[Imovelikejack]

Ok so Sasuke wants to find Orochimaru after he already killed him. What exactly is in this for Sasuke? Like you said he already knows everything about the massacare (Itachi even had Sasuke see everything through his eyes). SO what Sasuke wants to learn everything from this "someone" in hopes of...what defeating Madara? He seemes pretty mad when Suigetsu mentioned Madara still being alive

Like you said yourself ^ Itachi showed his story from his perspective - we haven't heard a thing from Hiruzen! The uchichas wanted to overthrow the hokage (Hiruzen) and take over the village - which means there most be a story untold!

[Xerilith]

Ok so Sasuke wants to find Orochimaru after he already killed him. What exactly is in this for Sasuke? Like you said he already knows everything about the massacare (Itachi even had Sasuke see everything through his eyes). SO what Sasuke wants to learn everything from this "someone" in hopes of...what defeating Madara? He seemes pretty mad when Suigetsu mentioned Madara still being alive

Correct me if Im wrong, but Tobi never told Sasuke that he isn't Madara. So he would most likely think that madara is Tobi. Unless he understood what Suigetsu meant.

[Imovelikejack]

this is not only about jutsus and sh*t
it is about everything and that is oro and not that old hag

Maybe - mayby not!

[Itatchi is a hero]

Yeah, great theory. *****

lol

[Slivs]

Sasuke says "He's not going to vanish like that" and we get a close-up of the curse seal mark on Anko's neck. The same mark that was on Sasuke's own neck until Itachi sealed that part of Orochimaru within him. My opinion, Sasuke's going back to Oro's old hideoout where the body transfers took place.

[elieser104]

How can I make a new thread???

[saaaaaadpanda]

How can I make a new thread???

You must prostrate yourself the almighty thread gods and hope for divine intervention.

[Prince of Persia TTT]

Maybe - mayby not!

its a 100% yes to oro
and a big no to your old hag :flaw:

[hawaiianmike]

Maybe the third technique has something to do with being able to extract information from someones. Say ie. history or another stored memory they had in the depths of their brain. Which would kinda explain oro's obsession with wanting an uchiha body.
If what I say were true (which I'm not in anyway saying I am) I could see why he would need oro. I just haven't worked out how sasuke is so sure he is alive. :shrug:

[Cfighter]

Maybe the third technique has something to do with being able to extract information from someones. Say ie. history or another stored memory they had in the depths of their brain. Which would kinda explain oro's obsession with wanting an uchiha body.
If what I say were true (which I'm not in anyway saying I am) I could see why he would need oro. I just haven't worked out how sasuke is so sure he is alive. :shrug:

Im assuming you think that there is a third technique because the chapter is called "third power", thats a mistranslation and is actually "third force" referring to the one who knows everything. And Sasuke knows Orochimaru is still out there because the curse mark always holds a piece of Orochimaru (like in the Sasuke vs Itachi fight), and even though Orochimaru was killed/sealed, Anko still has that piece of him in her curse mark (thats why he looked at it).

[Imovelikejack]

Maybe the third technique has something to do with being able to extract information from someones. Say ie. history or another stored memory they had in the depths of their brain. Which would kinda explain oro's obsession with wanting an uchiha body.
If what I say were true (which I'm not in anyway saying I am) I could see why he would need oro. I just haven't worked out how sasuke is so sure he is alive. :shrug:

Great theory!
That could actually explain him wanting the Uchichas!

[Slivs]

Great theory!
That could actually explain him wanting the Uchichas!

Was there a question about why he wanted an Uchiha?

[Imovelikejack]

Was there a question about why he wanted an Uchiha?

Was there a question about you commenting my reply :flaw: ?

[Slivs]

Was there a question about you commenting my reply :flaw: ?

Yeah.....it's a forum, people comment on each other's posts, that's kind of why we're here, isn't it?

You said "That explains it", I was just curious if you were choosing to ignore the reason previously given.