Tobi/ObitoTheories: What, why and how and then some

[MWQ]

[QUOTE=veejay;8202123]

3 years older? where in hell did you get that?[/QUOTE

Look it up Kakashi graduated from the academy at age 5 because he was a once in a generation genius obito was not that skilled i dont think it was anyone else who graduated and became a chunin as young as Kakashi

When team minato was formed probably all of its members were chunins.Since at the time of obitos death,kakashi just became a jonin.So kakashi remained as a chunin for quite some time.So its only logical to assume that they were of the same age.Kakashi was above in skill,but by age he was the same age as obito and rin.

Like i said,we're not sure about anything,since kishi has got a hell of a lot of an explanation to give,so please chill the f**k down:ice:

We just need to wait bro.If kishi gives a logical explanation,then everybody(including myself) will believe.But right now im neutral.

[veejay]

[QUOTE=MWQ;8202244]

When team minato was formed probably all of its members were chunins.Since at the time of obitos death,kakashi just became a jonin.So kakashi remained as a chunin for quite some time.So its only logical to assume that they were of the same age.Kakashi was above in skill,but by age he was the same age as obito and rin.

Like i said,we're not sure about anything,since kishi has got a hell of a lot of an explanation to give,so please chill the f**k down:ice:

We just need to wait bro.If kishi gives a logical explanation,then everybody(including myself) will believe.But right now im neutral.

no you are wrong look it up team minato was formed when they graduated from the academy Kakashi was 5 and obito was 9 and kakashi was a chunin the next year and obito became a chunin a year after Kakashi it tells you that in the freaking manga you obviously dont know what you are talking about

[veejay]

you form a team before the chunin exams because you must have a three man team to compete it tells you that back when Naruto took the exam

[MWQ]

[QUOTE=veejay;8202328]

no you are wrong look it up team minato was formed when they graduated from the academy Kakashi was 5 and obito was 9 and kakashi was a chunin the next year and obito became a chunin a year after Kakashi it tells you that in the freaking manga you obviously dont know what you are talking about

dont insult! if you disagree then say it.Dont act like your better than anyone.Im not going to lose my temper to someone like you,ill be more mature,and be patient.Thats the whole reason people hate these kind of threads.I didnt even came to this thread with the goal of debating,i was about to leave but your stubborn,......i guess all i can do is say" i disagee",and im leaving...goodbye!
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you sound as if your a child!

[veejay]

[QUOTE=MWQ;8202511]

dont insult! if you disagree then say it.Dont act like your better than anyone.Im not going to lose my temper to someone like you,ill be more mature,and be patient.Thats the whole reason people hate these kind of threads.I didnt even came to this thread with the goal of debating,i was about to leave but your stubborn,......i guess all i can do is say" i disagee",and im leaving...goodbye!
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you sound as if your a child!

sorry if i hurt your feelings but you was wrong though :shrug:

[Prime Rib]

actually kishi still has not confirmed the truth about who tobi is? as you see just cause the mask came off and shows tobi face it dosent prove its him.

[veejay]

actually kishi still has not confirmed the truth about who tobi is? as you see just cause the mask came off and shows tobi face it dosent prove its him.

wow ok denial

[moongem]

I totally agree. I want people to accept that he's Obito. They could accept a masked man simply saying he was Madara and were like, "Ohhhh!" but they can't accept a face?

However, the original post lacked so much finesse an punctuation, and grammar... I might have cancer.

[Sentinelsgalore]

People seem to forget that in chapter 598 Kakashi asked 'Obito' where he got his right eye from and 'Obito' replied that he found it at Kannabi bridge? Why would Obito say this because it would be his own eye. This implies that not only is someone using Obito's eye but somebody is also using Obito's body. Then again, maybe Obito was trying to deceive kakashi, he is more than capable of lying just as when he pretended to be Madara.

[Deadalife]

Yeah for all those whinny little kids who cry about Tobis identity


So some points that go against the statements of Izuna/Kagami/Ramen guy believers (WUT LOL)

so first of all, it cant be izuna because as you see, Obito isnt dead, IF obito would be dead HIS body wouldnt grow, BUT we see a fully grown adult infront of us NOT A DEAD PUPPET. (frikin Izuna mind believers)

Forget it about the ramen guy....hes busy making ramens so...

and, many people said Obito didnt say he is Obito, infact in the manga it says "Revealed, his name is obito"

Also moving on, How could he have survived the rocks ? well when kakashi took his one eye. tho Of course he wouldnt have survived without the help of Zetsu and/or Madara, but kishimoto will explain that since we dont know any other information about this topic.

i mean guys seriously, just get it over with it ! is it really so hard its Obito, dont you think its kinda weird to show 14 Backflashes with Obito on them ?


i hope i cleared some things up.

[karol the don]

in some chapters we gonna see if hes rly obito or some homeboy controll his epic body

[Bijuu mode naruto]

still making more threads like this

when it gonna end

[Cascade]

I try to ignore but its so hard to allow someone who is wrong believe they are right

let them beleive what they want, you cant spend your life...or even your time on this site attempting to convince others that their opinions are wrong, because its virtually impossible...just wait until kishi does it for you...or kishi might prove them right...in the end what matters is what you beleive...thats what naruto is about in itself...how you can do things with your beleifs...you dont have to influence the personal beleifs of others...you can change things with the way you think, different or the same as others...

the people who choose to go along with you are the ones that will understand, but theres no point in arguing for hours trying to get people to think like you because its just not gonna happen...

as Setsuna F Seie said...Peace can only be achieved through understanding...not conflict!

[Eevee]

You know, if you end up being wrong, I'll spam the **** out of your profile with Keith Sweat pics. You don't know what is right and what is wrong, so shut the **** up. You don't create the manga.

Oooo whos a big man posting threats on a forum...do you have no life? so much so that you would actually spam someone? you take this forum that seriously? grow up, your not scaring or impressing anyone...your just proving how immature you are.

[SilverSlick]

Oooo whos a big man posting threats on a forum...do you have no life? so much so that you would actually spam someone? you take this forum that seriously? grow up, your not scaring or impressing anyone...your just proving how immature you are.

Can't believe you even took that post seriously. You should of known when I said that I'd spam his profile with Keith Sweat pics that I was joking :/, calm your tits.

[veejay]

let them beleive what they want, you cant spend your life...or even your time on this site attempting to convince others that their opinions are wrong, because its virtually impossible...just wait until kishi does it for you...or kishi might prove them right...in the end what matters is what you beleive...thats what naruto is about in itself...how you can do things with your beleifs...you dont have to influence the personal beleifs of others...you can change things with the way you think, different or the same as others...

the people who choose to go along with you are the ones that will understand, but theres no point in arguing for hours trying to get people to think like you because its just not gonna happen...

as Setsuna F Seie said...Peace can only be achieved through understanding...not conflict!

You are right everyone has an opinion. It would be dumb on my part to try to make someone understand my point of view if they don't want too. I'll just post my beliefs and leave it at that.

[Orochimagus]

Check out the Naruto wikii! Tobi's section has been integrated into Obito!

Deni...Madara was not "defeated", he was defeated. You don't play possum and systain permanent injuries, go into hiding, and mooch off your opponent's superior power and claim you did not lose.

I think you overwork it. If you're gonna say Zetsu is involve, why not simplify the theory based on the manga evidence? Madara lived to an old age when he met Nagato and gave him his eyes, then died. (His age does not matter because Kabuto already said Madara was revived as a special summon in his prime. This makes it very likely Madara was old and there is no other showing on what makes Madara's summon different than the others).

Madara had created Zetsu and backed up his memories and DNA with into him (Perhaps creating black Zetsu). It is Zetsu's purpose to make sure Madara is revived, so he is to keep an eye on Nagato. Many years later Zetsu tries to eat Obito's corpse but finds out he's alive and saves him. From Zetsu's memories Obito learned everything about Madara to the point he could trick even the Tsuchikage who actually met Madara in person.

You don't need to make complicated theories to try to explain Obito away when he actually fits in pretty well because Zetsu is the link between Obito and Madara. This is why Zetsu always called him Tobi, and never Madara.

[ltachl]

This is my first post.

I've been thinking since last year before the coffin of kabuto was shown up that there were two Madaras and one of them with obito's eyes.

Wasn't surprised at all that Madara was Kabuto's trump card (yes I got my cookie a 30$ dollar bet )

However when Madara was first shown up, his personality was completely different than Tobi's. Can anyone think of Madara making silly jokes?

That led me to believe that I was wrong and Tobi is only part of Madara. As if madara himself had used Senju's cells to make Tobi and Zetsus.

White Zetsu = Senju
Black Zetsu = Madara/Uchiha

I still find hard to believe that Tobi is Obito. It just doesn't make any sense to me unless he was kind of a vessel. I hope he is otherwise Kishi just royally screwed his masterpiece.

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[radienx000]

Then please explain why the anagram of toobi (japanese translation) is obito?!! Please explain.

[redsglory1974]

I TOLD U SO!!!!! (juz wanted to say that first before 600th manga revealed ot trolled or whatever)

[Orochimagus]

What I find funny is how people are desperately clinging to the very small possibility of Obito being a vessel...When back in the day those same people would argue why someone would choose a crippled, unskilled Uchiha as a vessel. This was before the massacre, which means there were healthy choices back then. There's no reason for someone to find Obito's corpse out in the middle of nowhere under all those rocks and decide that using that body is a good idea. Tobi has shown too much of an issue with Kakashi. Just accept it...He's Obito.

[blanksinn]

Even though i didnt think that was Obito, perhpas is the best option kishi could make. Obito had a character like Naruto, similar dreams and ideologies. So it's like what Itachi said some mangas ago "if u keep doing everything on your own then u may be end to like Tobi". I think that we were prepared in some ways for this revelation..but some things need some very good explanations, Obito turned into a very bad person, evil and i need more than, because u let Rin die reason. Hef ollows Madara's ideals now or he has a plan for only himself that he hasn't reavealed yet? The reason i say this is because of the words that kabuto said when Madara came out of the coffin. "i am not sure if the fake Madara will follow the plan" this is what Kabuto said. Some of you may think that he is not Obito beacause it's immposible for him to create akatsuki and give Nagato the rinengan because he was around the same age as Nagato and Yahiko. Also some say that when kisame saw twice Tobi's face he regognised it as the same. I think this is a lie, i think that this Madara with the long hair was the Real Madara, how did he trick Kisame? Sahringan...

[Orochimagus]

And the new chapter confirms it. God, I hope the noobs shut up already!

[Chatte]

Dudes, don't you find it really strange the fact that the composition of the sentences are a bit elusive?

Meaning "You can call me by that name" or "How <<I>> survived"?

[Orochimagus]

Obito has identity issues which he hinted since Madara was revealed. His obvious spite at Kakashi of all people stands out though.