Tobi/ObitoTheories: What, why and how and then some

[mrioso]

As we have seen in chapter 603 Obito starts wearing one of the Zetsus as armour. Maybe he got fused with it permanently, which also explains why he prefered wearing the red swirl mask that looks exactly like the creature's face.

Maybe this "suit" increases his strength enormously and brings him on the same level as the 4th. We will see in the nexr few chapters what changed Obito to his evil self Tobi.

[Marka of the Six Paths]

it was obito all allong )

[LeEvilTongue]

I didn't like Tobi before the reveal. Now that I know it's Obito, he has become one of my favourite characters :D

[darthvader5666]

IMO, Obito can time travel, or the guy that was controlling Yagura was someone else entirely (meaning there are 2 Tobis). Can't think of any other way to explain who was controlling Yagura (I think it's pretty obvious that it couldn't have been Madara).

[Unmasked Obito]

Currently I believe that Obito's body is being used by another human. In terms of someone else's soul resides inside Obito. Perhaps it is Izuna or the spirit of the juubi that is using Obito's body.

Yea.... I don't really think thats true man....

[TheWillofFire]

Obito carries madaras will, madaras will is juubis will, he uses the juubi power to create genjutsu
Obito is the next savior as in the savior to free juubi

Obito pretty much let someone take over him, not himself

[LeEvilTongue]

I gotta say i didn't believe Obito was Tobi, then again I didn't really care about his identity either. When I think about it, there weren't any better alternatives. Now that Tobi has a face I like him alot more than when he was just a mask with no facial expressions.

[Justice3619]

I really didnt want it to be obito,I thought it was a little too cheesy and obvious,I was hoping it was gonna be someone else because everybody came up with sooo many theories about it being Madara Uchiha but I really thought it was gonna be Kagami even though he really had nothing to do with the situation or have any reason to attack the hidden leaf.

[★Saiya-Jin Prince]

Looking back though....how did we not realize this. I mean come on, the one eye hole in the mask. I should have been so obvious

[Mysterytee]

My Tobi, Obito, Madara Theory:

Madara was old and needed to be young again. He decided to give nagato the rinnegan so he could later make nagato ressurect him. Madara made kabuto ressurect tobi and decided to use him as a vessel for a few reasons: 1.No one would notice that he was gone because he was thought dead 2.He was an uchiha 3.He had already activated his sharingan. Tobi/obito denied becoming madaras vessel and madara died beacuse of this. Tobi/obito the took up the alias "Madara Uchiha" and modt of madaras goals.


Ch607-Pg01:
"If you're using Madara Uchiha's name you must be either a criminal or an idiot"

Ch489-Pg16:
"I would come greet you, Tobi. Excuse me... You go by Madara these days, Don't you?" -Kabuto Yakushi

Ch521-02:
"I could even become more infamous then, say... Uchiha Madara." -Kabuto Yakushi
Kabuto said this to Tobi and Kabuto didn't say "more infamous then you" or somethign alogn those lines.

Three examples proving Tobi uses an alias and isn't actually Madara Uchiha


This is my theory basically saying that Tobi is an out of control experiment and took advantage of Madara

[★Saiya-Jin Prince]

My Tobi, Obito, Madara Theory:

Madara was old and needed to be young again. He decided to give nagato the rinnegan so he could later make nagato ressurect him. Madara made kabuto ressurect tobi and decided to use him as a vessel for a few reasons: 1.No one would notice that he was gone because he was thought dead 2.He was an uchiha 3.He had already activated his sharingan. Tobi/obito denied becoming madaras vessel and madara died beacuse of this. Tobi/obito the took up the alias "Madara Uchiha" and modt of madaras goals.


Ch607-Pg01:
"If you're using Madara Uchiha's name you must be either a criminal or an idiot"

Ch489-Pg16:
"I would come greet you, Tobi. Excuse me... You go by Madara these days, Don't you?" -Kabuto Yakushi

Ch521-02:
"I could even become more infamous then, say... Uchiha Madara." -Kabuto Yakushi
Kabuto said this to Tobi and Kabuto didn't say "more infamous then you" or somethign alogn those lines.

Three examples proving Tobi uses an alias and isn't actually Madara Uchiha


This is my theory basically saying that Tobi is an out of control experiment and took advantage of Madara

That post....was so full of fail I couldn't believe I was reading it

[★Saiya-Jin Prince]

Everyone knows who Tobi really was. It's right here in the manga

[leezagboola]

there are still too many holes in it being obito and i think its just lazy writing.
1. within 2 years with training only from a man who can barely walk he was able to control the kyuubi, extract it, and begin attacking konaha and the 4th hokage?
2. he didnt have any attachments whatsoever to the village other than rin, a girl whom he had a crush on, not even his family members or even just other people in the uchiha clan
3. i guess ill accept that he may have looked full grown due to him wearing the spiral zetsu
4. the most pathetic thing, it took kakashi more than a decade to use the ms even though he had a teacher who was the hokage and the entire uchiha village there to get help from?

it seems all rushed, they didnt want to make it a new character because that would mean a longer back ground story so they justed used obito who took until about 13 to unlock his sharigan but took until 15 to not only unlock ms but also attack a village, verse the hokage and control the kyuubi? This is worse than the power ups in Dragon ball z.

[★Saiya-Jin Prince]

there are still too many holes in it being obito and i think its just lazy writing.
1. within 2 years with training only from a man who can barely walk he was able to control the kyuubi, extract it, and begin attacking konaha and the 4th hokage?
2. he didnt have any attachments whatsoever to the village other than rin, a girl whom he had a crush on, not even his family members or even just other people in the uchiha clan
3. i guess ill accept that he may have looked full grown due to him wearing the spiral zetsu
4. the most pathetic thing, it took kakashi more than a decade to use the ms even though he had a teacher who was the hokage and the entire uchiha village there to get help from?

it seems all rushed, they didnt want to make it a new character because that would mean a longer back ground story so they justed used obito who took until about 13 to unlock his sharigan but took until 15 to not only unlock ms but also attack a village, verse the hokage and control the kyuubi? This is worse than the power ups in Dragon ball z.

I agree, it does seem rushed. And the worst part is, it's obvious he planned it for a while. Even back when Kakashi first notices 'Tobi's' sharingan in the forest I believe Kishi knew he would use Obito as the masked guy but I think he took it for granted and never thought out the details just figuring it would all fit into place nicely. Then he screwed himself by making certain comments to people like Konan and even the 4th Hokage's back story during the Pain saga, and especially Kushina's back story. Now he's scrambling to make everything fit and your right, it feels very rushed.

[NarutoDKurosaki]

If you could have had Tobi been anyone else, who would you rather it had been? I think it would have been cool if madara was never resurrected, and it was Madara inhabiting Obito's body, and madara had all of the powers he has now, while having the powers of Obito. I think that would have been and would have made people happier.

[Reizke]

So everything i said was right.Why do i not get any props? All that is left is for Obito is to switch sides and help naruto defeat madara. By the way its shaping from the manga. Looks like it will happen. I will be back here to say i told you so when that happens!

[straightup]

Currently I believe that Obito's body is being used by another human. In terms of someone else's soul resides inside Obito. Perhaps it is Izuna or the spirit of the juubi that is using Obito's body.

if that were the case how would he have known such personal info on obito...and why would another person be all butt hurt about obitos lover dying??

[Urmommah]

Guys... it IS obito get over it

[u wanna die]

there is no plot holes... if we can spot a plot holes... so can kishi... his been writting naruto for how many years now.. im sure he carefully think b4 he draws...

[Deoinaidis]

there is a good point in that what you said, looking at it, obito was a snatty nose little kid...

nice point there ive been having my doubts as well and sometimes it just doesnt fit in, even if madara was still alive, he would have been too old to even train obito if he saved his ass from getting crushed, the show has its twists i dont know if it will ever be revealed or the writer jus will saty hidden in the mist..........

[TheBrightSide]

Hey guys

[Naruto 2nd SO6paths]

Currently I believe that Obito's body is being used by another human. In terms of someone else's soul resides inside Obito. Perhaps it is Izuna or the spirit of the juubi that is using Obito's body.

LOL

[Omnipotent]

Tobi > Obito

[julia maltellak]

i new it was him ever since i figured it out

[Omnipotent]

i new it was him ever since i figured it out

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