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    Re: Theory: Anime frames of Sasuke. The Original Sharringan, and Implications.

    IMO
    kakshi had ms the moment rin transplanted it
    ms is obtained by witnessing the death of someone imporant to you whether by your hands or someone elses so obitos death activated his ms whether he realized it or not
     
         

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    Re: Theory: Anime frames of Sasuke. The Original Sharringan, and Implications.

    Quote Originally Posted by kabumaru View Post
    IMO
    kakshi had ms the moment rin transplanted it
    ms is obtained by witnessing the death of someone imporant to you whether by your hands or someone elses so obitos death activated his ms whether he realized it or not
    i completely agree with you. i wanted to say it before but u got to it before me. and also, i believe that sasuke did witness the death of his best friend.. which was his brother and the same goes with mandara and his brother.
     
         

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    Re: Theory: Anime frames of Sasuke. The Original Sharringan, and Implications.

    Quote Originally Posted by ngking1 View Post
    i completely agree with you. i wanted to say it before but u got to it before me. and also, i believe that sasuke did witness the death of his best friend.. which was his brother and the same goes with mandara and his brother.
    sasuke's situation IMO is a little different because he utterly hated itachi but itachi was important to him (obviously not in a positive way like a friend ) but important none the less that why i no longer say the death of a freind but

    it may be because him and itachi were like friends in the past and his memories right before itachi died were of them when they were like friends
    but i dont know for sure

    however if you could train to get ms all the uchiha would have one
     
         

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    Re: Theory: Anime frames of Sasuke. The Original Sharringan, and Implications.

    Quote Originally Posted by SSJ4Naruto View Post
    A pre-evolved eye maybe a possibility(if series lengthens dat much). May be we will see Next evolution in her child...Though they luk(eyes of Kurenai and Nagato) similar, I don't think so there is any relation(as doujutsu) between them.
    Luk at these images:-




    If there is any relation,
    Rinnegan's rings covers entire eye, and Kuranai's eyes has rings around pupil not for entire eye...So maybe Kurenai is part of some bloodline clan using genjutsu as shown in anime...
    Maybe Sharingan evolved from Byakugan and kurenai's clan'e eyes....
    Yeah. Kurenai does use genjutsu as her main ability. So there is a relation there. I doubt that we will see the evolution, if even possible, of her eye into something more... It would have to take place with her child. Maybe the bloodline of a Hokage would be able to do it...

    - When you look at the image of Sasuke I used, and the image of Kurenai... The Sharringan's 3 pupils are formed from the black ring in the middle. The black ring disappears through manipulation of the vessels, an ability only the Uchiha can do.

    - The fact that Kurenai .... NATURALLY has her eye divided like that... without manipulation... means that her eyes are naturally more powerful that the Fully black Uchiha eye. This is why Kurenai is good at genjutsu. As soon as the Uchiha sharringan starts to form however, the difference is obvious. Basically, Kurenai's eye is in a static mode. Possibly the blood of Asuma's clan is able to push that eye into the next level. Like a third red ring... idk...
     
         
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    Re: Theory: Anime frames of Sasuke. The Original Sharringan, and Implications.

    Quote Originally Posted by kabumaru View Post
    IMO
    kakshi had ms the moment rin transplanted it
    ms is obtained by witnessing the death of someone imporant to you whether by your hands or someone elses so obitos death activated his ms whether he realized it or not
    i sorta agree with that. i think that he felt responsible for his death. because i think he mentioned somwhere that he felt guilt for his death because of his cockyness or something like that. so he felt responsible and caused the emotional reaction required for the transformation but when he got the sharinghan the eye only had 2 tomeo (dots) and wasnt powerfull enough to transform so after he atained a 3 tomeo and mastered it in the time skip. combined with those feelings of "killing obito" it caused the transformation...
     
         

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    Re: Theory: Anime frames of Sasuke. The Original Sharringan, and Implications.

    Quote Originally Posted by Koo View Post
    i sorta agree with that. i think that he felt responsible for his death. because i think he mentioned somwhere that he felt guilt for his death because of his cockyness or something like that. so he felt responsible and caused the emotional reaction required for the transformation but when he got the sharinghan the eye only had 2 tomeo (dots) and wasnt powerfull enough to transform so after he atained a 3 tomeo and mastered it in the time skip. combined with those feelings of "killing obito" it caused the transformation...
    I am pretty sure that Sasuke's MS (The 3 intersecting ring version) formed without him making the conscious decision. Its not like he sat there and was like "Ok I made a big mistake, and I am depressed, so awake my MS eyes!" For Sasuke, it just naturally happened.

    So given this, people are saying that Kakashi already had it, but never knew it? That doesn't make sense. Kakashi has been in multiple more life or death situations than Naruto ever has... and yet the MS didn't awaken. In fact, Kakashi stated to Naruto when chasing Deidra, that over those 3 years he was "working on perfecting a new technique". Him saying it is new to him... means that it is new, and he didn't have it before...

    I believe that Kakashi is key to understanding the truth behind MS. Kakashi's character shows us how the sharringan works, without the bloodline, which shows the difference the Uchiha bloodline has in the techniques...
     
         

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