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Akatsuki's True Leader?
Now that Tobi is Obito there is no way he was the leader, even Nagato said he is easily replaced & konan almost defeated him.. Tobi as "Obito" isn't as powerful as some thought him to be..
I believe the story of Yahiko being the leader and passing it to Nagato.
Nagato could have destroyed the leaf before the war started but saw something greater than himself in naruto. Even Tobi said he was invincible and techniqually was never defeated.
In terms of Strength top five Akatsuki
Nagato
Itachi
Tobi
Black & white zestu
Konan
Who knows what black & white zestu is capable of doing..
That being said Yahiko started Akatsuki if anything eles Madara gave him only an idea if that.
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Re: Akatsuki's True Leader?
Obito is the strongest akatsuki member.
Hes fighting Naruto,bee,kakashi,gai,and kurama.
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Re: Akatsuki's True Leader?
Whether you think Tobi/Obito was strongest or not, he was in charge. Everything was according to his master plan. Nagato took orders from him.
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Re: Akatsuki's True Leader?
 Originally Posted by ~Bijuu~
Obito is the strongest akatsuki member.
Hes fighting Naruto,bee,kakashi,gai,and kurama.
This^
But I believe at some point Izuna or some shady character was the mask man,then Obito took over or is going by his order.
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Re: Akatsuki's True Leader?
 Originally Posted by ~Bijuu~
Obito is the strongest akatsuki member.
Hes fighting Naruto,bee,kakashi,gai,and kurama.
yes i think he pretty much summed it up
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Re: Akatsuki's True Leader?
Tobi/obito is the leader weather u like it or not bro.
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Re: Akatsuki's True Leader?
Yeah, there's a dumb rumor that there's another "true" leader in the akastuki. Obito is the leader and that's it.
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Re: Akatsuki's True Leader?
 Originally Posted by ~Bijuu~
Obito is the strongest akatsuki member.
Hes fighting Naruto,bee,kakashi,gai,and kurama.
This.
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Re: Akatsuki's True Leader?
Obito couldn't beat Nagato on his best day
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Re: Akatsuki's True Leader?
 Originally Posted by ~Bijuu~
Obito is the strongest akatsuki member.
Hes fighting Naruto,bee,kakashi,gai,and kurama.
Idk how much of that can be attributed to strength. He's been dodging the entire fight. That's pretty much all he ever does for the most part. I wish he'd be a more offensive fighter.
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Re: Akatsuki's True Leader?
 Originally Posted by saaaaaadpanda
Whether you think Tobi/Obito was strongest or not, he was in charge. Everything was according to his master plan. Nagato took orders from him.
This be the answer to ye thread.
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Re: Akatsuki's True Leader?
 Originally Posted by ~Bijuu~
Obito is the strongest akatsuki member.
Hes fighting Naruto,bee,kakashi,gai,and kurama.
and the 8 tails, nagato couldnt even take the 9 tails, he got lucky the 9 tails didnt fully transformed
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Re: Akatsuki's True Leader?
 Originally Posted by Seven7
Obito couldn't beat Nagato on his best day
lol are you retarded... Obito is beating a bijuu mode naruto, KB, Kakashi and Guy... Nagato got whooped by Sage Mode Naruto wtf you been smoking
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Re: Akatsuki's True Leader?
Saying that he nearly lost to Konan to justify your opinion is irrelevant. That paper chamber jutsu she used was a one time deal that she had to have already set up.. And he still beat her.
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Re: Akatsuki's True Leader?
 Originally Posted by blackreign36
lol are you retarded... Obito is beating a bijuu mode naruto, KB, Kakashi and Guy... Nagato got whooped by Sage Mode Naruto wtf you been smoking
That was pain. Nagato himself was having a pretty nice time wrecking Killer Bee and KM Naruto at the same time until Itachi became good again.
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Re: Akatsuki's True Leader?
To be honest obito is fairly smart and strong but if somehow nagato is stronger obito is still the leader and he gives the commands -.-
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Re: Akatsuki's True Leader?
The akatsuki is 90% dead anyway.
Since they are using the dead, I'd say Yahiko is the true leader, since he always was.
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Re: Akatsuki's True Leader?
Obito/Tobi was the leader of Akatsuki. Nagato was taking orders from him. According to Konan, Yahiko created Akatsuki but we really don't now whether or not Yahiko was receiving orders from Tobi.
Tobi WAS not the strongest. The keyword here is WAS because he recently acquired the strength of the Rinnegan and the power of the tailed beasts. He got tossed around by Konan ffs and he was cautious of Itachi.
Strength wise I would say it was:
Itachi or Nagato
Kisame
etc
etc
Take note that Akatsuki does not exist anymore because all of the existing members are dead or defeated. Akatsuki's prime time was in the beginning and mid Shippuden.
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Last edited by Inception; 01-13-2013 at 11:03 PM.
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Re: Akatsuki's True Leader?
 Originally Posted by Hazed
The akatsuki is 90% dead anyway.
Since they are using the dead, I'd say Yahiko is the true leader, since he always was.
Definately Yahiko. He kept the organisation together with his will and drive alone. He was the true leader of the Akatsuki, even Nagato couldn't do what he did, hence why it all fell apart.
The Akatsuki was doomed as soon as Yahiko died.
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Well technically the plan was Madara's and Obito was pretty much executing it, so you could argue that the true leader is Madara. And Obito had some serious setbacks, starting with Naruto getting Nagato (key to the plan) on his side. The original plan called for Nagato to sacrifice himself to revive Madara. I suspect that Obito modified that part to apply to himself, but Nagato killed himself for Naruto's sake, wrecking his plans - Obito's body is too damaged to become the juubi jinchuriki, but he could still perform Rinne Tensei, except he does not want to die for Madara. On top of that, Kabuto revived Madara with Edo Tensei, effectively denying him the option to use Rinne Tensei on him (or rather get someone else to do it :-)).
And he also messed up being too impatient and creating the Juubi before he captured the 8 and 9 tails. This will probably prove fatal to his plan.
In short, the true master was Madara, but the person who took over the plan (Obito) messed it up.
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Re: Akatsuki's True Leader?
 Originally Posted by Błitz
Obito is the strongest akatsuki member.
Hes fighting Naruto,bee,kakashi,gai,and kurama.
 Originally Posted by saaaaaadpanda
Whether you think Tobi/Obito was strongest or not, he was in charge. Everything was according to his master plan. Nagato took orders from him.
Love this.
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Re: Akatsuki's True Leader?
 Originally Posted by saltal
Well technically the plan was Madara's and Obito was pretty much executing it, so you could argue that the true leader is Madara. And Obito had some serious setbacks, starting with Naruto getting Nagato (key to the plan) on his side. The original plan called for Nagato to sacrifice himself to revive Madara. I suspect that Obito modified that part to apply to himself, but Nagato killed himself for Naruto's sake, wrecking his plans - Obito's body is too damaged to become the juubi jinchuriki, but he could still perform Rinne Tensei, except he does not want to die for Madara. On top of that, Kabuto revived Madara with Edo Tensei, effectively denying him the option to use Rinne Tensei on him (or rather get someone else to do it :-)).
And he also messed up being too impatient and creating the Juubi before he captured the 8 and 9 tails. This will probably prove fatal to his plan.
In short, the true master was Madara, but the person who took over the plan (Obito) messed it up.
I'm pretty sure that Madara doesn't even know what "Akatsuki" is. How can he be a true master? Akatsuki leaders were Nagato(before him Yahiko) and Tobi. They were pretty even and cooperating for their own future plans.
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Re: Akatsuki's True Leader?
 Originally Posted by Rosco Wellington
Idk how much of that can be attributed to strength. He's been dodging the entire fight. That's pretty much all he ever does for the most part. I wish he'd be a more offensive fighter.
The fact that he can't be hit is a gigantic strength. It's hard to deny that Obito wasn't one of the strongest guy there, since without intimate knowledge on how his jutsu works theres just no defeating him. I mean, it took countless encounters of Kakashi with him and Obitos Sharigan to even have the oppertunity to defeat him. Same with Konan, she spent years with him to gain the knowledge that was capible of nearly killing him. No one else could come close to that, not even Itachi, Kisame and all the other heavy hitters.
Yes, powerful Jutsu is one thing. But Obito was one of those guys who can remove people from this world with just a touch or remain untouchable. All the power in the world, can't match up to that.
As for being a leader. Yes, he is. Nagato controlled Akaksuki and Nagato answered to Obito. That was it really.
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Re: Akatsuki's True Leader?
 Originally Posted by JBandaa
I'm pretty sure that Madara doesn't even know what "Akatsuki" is. How can he be a true master?  Akatsuki leaders were Nagato(before him Yahiko) and Tobi. They were pretty even and cooperating for their own future plans.
You are right that Madara does not know anything about Akatsuki, but his plan was to have Obito befriend Nagato and collect the tailed beasts with his help, then manipulate him to revive him. How exactly this was done was minor detail to him, the Akatsuki organization was merely a tool.
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Re: Akatsuki's True Leader?
kishi style, the more chapter the more powerful the enemy is
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