[Discussion] A couple of facts until now.

[TheFourthHokage]

Wow, we are getting far into the manga. The past few chapters have been revealing and let's round up a couple of things that are happening until now.


First off Obito is Tobi.

What triggered this is rin's death. Kakashi was unable to protect her and Obito somehow found out.

This means that Rin died within a year after Obito "died". So saying this happened that means Obito survived. Rin died. Madara trained Obito and Obito is at the level he is at right now.

Second off, do you guys see a pattern right now? 3 Main villains of the story had something to do with Konoha and now Kakashi has come full circle with Naruto and Jiraiya

Jiraiya -> Orochimaru
Naruto -> Sasuke
and now
Kakashi -> Obito

For now that's all the facts I have. I'll edit my post in the coming days with more facts.

Hope you guys liked it!

[Blondephile]

what about jiraya -> Nagato, yeah he turned soft at the end but still.

[Lrrrrr]

Wow, we are getting far into the manga. The past few chapters have been revealing and let's round up a couple of things that are happening until now.


First off Obito is Tobi.

What triggered this is rin's death. Kakashi was unable to protect her and Obito somehow found out.

This means that Rin died within a year after Obito "died". So saying this happened that means Obito survived. Rin died. Madara trained Obito and Obito is at the level he is at right now.

Second off, do you guys see a pattern right now? 3 Main villains of the story had something to do with Konoha and now Kakashi has come full circle with Naruto and Jiraiya

Jiraiya -> Orochimaru
Naruto -> Sasuke
and now
Kakashi -> Obito

For now that's all the facts I have. I'll edit my post in the coming days with more facts.

Hope you guys liked it!

Yet another assumption.

[TheFourthHokage]

Because Jiraiya didn't find out about Nagato until the moments before his death. Nagato never really defected from anywhere.

[TheFourthHokage]

Yet another assumption.

Somewhat of an assumption yes. Obito did survive though. I don't see any other way Madara would acknowledge Obito though.

[B00m]

Yet another assumption.

Thank you sir.

Never put the word "fact" in your title because there are none with this manga anymore. People becoming undead, unsealed, unbound by the undead, becoming powerful in no time, and then there's the plot all together right now.

Fact is, Kishi does what he wants.

[Lrrrrr]

Somewhat of an assumption yes. Obito did survive though. I don't see any other way Madara would acknowledge Obito though.

You don't know if he survived,- Maybe he just calls him Obito because Kishi doesn't want to reveal who Tobi really is (As well his name.) There's always a possibility that someone took his body until the manga proves otherwise. Until then, one can only assume.

[Animaeon]

The funny part about this "Pattern" is that starting with Sarutobi, the sensei will train both the hero and the villain of each new generation. And whoever the hero is, will be responsble for the next generation's hero and villain etc

Hiruzen Sarutobi
- Jiraiya (Hero)
- Orochimaru (Villain)

Jiraiya
- Minato (Hero)
- Nagato (Villain)

Minato
- Kakashi (Hero)
- Obito (Villain)

Kakashi
- Naruto (Hero)
- Sasuke (Villain)

Probably not that important, but it's a funny coincidence.

[modthis]

Also Obito didn't give Nagato the Rinnegan had to be Madara or Nagato really awakened it on his own.

[6PathsofKami]

Also Obito didn't give Nagato the Rinnegan had to be Madara or Nagato really awakened it on his own.

Or Madara injected Nagato with his Uchiha blood allowing him to awaken the Rinegan.

[shri3kbat]

Or Madara injected Nagato with his Uchiha blood allowing him to awaken the Rinegan.

Young Nagato going with his parents to the doctor getting some injection against X disease. When he is called in Madara is his doctor wearing a typical doctor outfit. He then grins behind his doctor mask and injects the unknowning Nagato with his DNA.

This is what I pictured lol. But some form of Dna insertion instead of literally giving his eyes is definitely possible. I'd say likely by now