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    Madara's secret reveal?

    As we all know Madara is using a still unknown techinque which grant him the power to "vaporize" and teleport any part of his body, or his hole body. In the last manga I have come across evidence that leads me to think that Madara isn't using any jutsu to avoid all attack and "Vaporize", he is stuck in that state.

    On this page we can see that Madara is threatening Sasuke of fighting him if he attempt to continue toward the village.

    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/453/06/

    Then when sasuke pass right through him, Madara immediately change tone by becoming more friendly and saying that it's no use to go there.

    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/453/07/


    The moment Sasuke attack we can see that Madara is surprise by is boldness and realize that manipulating him with fear won't work.

    But why always scheme and manipulation? If Madara is half the men he is suppose to be, he could have easily stop sasuke. I personally think that he simply can't, Madara is stuck being a chakra body like the tailed beast, but cannot physically interfere with others. For all we know of the EMS, the image we have of Tobi and his body could very well be a constant Illusion (half illusion, half real chakra).

    I would even go further and say that all there is physically left of madara is his eyes. The ultimate jutsu, no aging, can't be harm. There is certainly a purpose behind all those zoom made on Madara Sharingan. Kishis so far as always given hint on all his plots, I think that he is revealing that Madara's eyes are not only the key to his secret, but the very incarnation of him, the only thing left of him..


    opinions?


    *for some odd reason pic are not showing, I put the link*
     
         
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    Re: Madara's secret reveal?

    Sounds good, pics aint showing though
     
         

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    Re: Madara's secret reveal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiden View Post
    Sounds good, pics aint showing though
    thks, fix ^^
     
         

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    Re: Madara's secret reveal?

    madara / tobi can definetly touch physical objects
    Naruto 358 page 09 | One Manga

    how ever he needs sasuke to sync with medo gaza or whatever its called of his own free will and he realizes that threats will get him nowhere so he switches to a diffferent tactic
     
         

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    Re: Madara's secret reveal?

    the theory has been brought up b4 but the more i think on it the more it makes sence.
    only thing that bothers me is that he blocked suigetsu's sword, when he took a swing at kisame.
    if he has no body then how come he can block physical attacks?
     
         

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    Re: Madara's secret reveal?

    Nice theory, but I doubt it's true.

    Some people already mentioned that he blocked Suigetsu's sword, so it means he can be physical.

    And for so far as I know it's impossible to exist as pure chakra without a physical form. You compaired his state with a tailed beast, but those have physical forms. You can fight them, so they are physical.
    The beasts that are sealed in a host are pure chakra, but they need the physical form of the host to survive. The nine-tailed fox said it himself that he needs Naruto. The only exception is the 3-tails, but we don't know how he got into that state and he lost a lot of strength.
     
         

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    Re: Madara's secret reveal?

    Quote Originally Posted by kabumaru View Post
    madara / tobi can definetly touch physical objects
    Naruto 358 page 09 | One Manga

    how ever he needs sasuke to sync with medo gaza or whatever its called of his own free will and he realizes that threats will get him nowhere so he switches to a diffferent tactic
    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade87 View Post
    the theory has been brought up b4 but the more i think on it the more it makes sence.
    only thing that bothers me is that he blocked suigetsu's sword, when he took a swing at kisame.
    if he has no body then how come he can block physical attacks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Caliburn View Post
    Nice theory, but I doubt it's true.

    Some people already mentioned that he blocked Suigetsu's sword, so it means he can be physical.

    And for so far as I know it's impossible to exist as pure chakra without a physical form. You compaired his state with a tailed beast, but those have physical forms. You can fight them, so they are physical.
    The beasts that are sealed in a host are pure chakra, but they need the physical form of the host to survive. The nine-tailed fox said it himself that he needs Naruto. The only exception is the 3-tails, but we don't know how he got into that state and he lost a lot of strength.
    That's why I said I wanted opinion

    Obviously this is a hard one.

    @ Caliburn: All beast can have physical form, we already know that the 9 tailed attack the village without a host.

    As for all ur statement about tobi interacting with stuff, I said it in the theory, I believe Madara EMS can pull a ultimate genjutsu pretty much like Aizen in bleach. He make people see what he want. We already know that the 3 tomoe sharingan can paralyse someone (remember Itachi and Oro), so I'm pretty sure Madara could easily paralyse both suigetsu and Kisame and make them think he actually stop the sword.

    However this is all speculation
     
         

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    Re: Madara's secret reveal?

    he can physically interfere he stopped suigetsus sword..
     
         

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    Re: Madara's secret reveal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Izuna Uchiha View Post
    That's why I said I wanted opinion

    Obviously this is a hard one.

    @ Caliburn: All beast can have physical form, we already know that the 9 tailed attack the village without a host.

    As for all ur statement about tobi interacting with stuff, I said it in the theory, I believe Madara EMS can pull a ultimate genjutsu pretty much like Aizen in bleach. He make people see what he want. We already know that the 3 tomoe sharingan can paralyse someone (remember Itachi and Oro), so I'm pretty sure Madara could easily paralyse both suigetsu and Kisame and make them think he actually stop the sword.

    However this is all speculation
    We just don't have enough information atm to make solid theories.
     
         

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    Re: Madara's secret reveal?

    Quote Originally Posted by gscabana View Post
    he can physically interfere he stopped suigetsus sword..
    -__- have u even read what I barely posted?

    geez!

    Quote Originally Posted by Caliburn View Post
    We just don't have enough information atm to make solid theories.
    yep`=/
     
         
    Last edited by Izuna Uchiha; 06-27-2009 at 03:15 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Re: Madara's secret reveal?

    Sounds like a good theory.^.^
    , but i don't know
     
         

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    Re: Madara's secret reveal?

    I've also been trying to figure this out on my other thread .. but like you've said, there isn't enough evidence.
     
         

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    Re: Madara's secret reveal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Omoilol View Post
    I've also been trying to figure this out on my other thread .. but like you've said, there isn't enough evidence.
    That's what piss me off about him >_<

    so many questions left unanswered!
     
         

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    Re: Madara's secret reveal?

    Great theory dude. And this is pretty believable. But you said that he makes people see what he wants them to. So can he actually like... fly?

    Because we've seen him standing on trees, it even shows it in one, if not both, of your links. So if this is true, did Kishi give him the power to fly? Or is it that if your theory is true, since he can't touch anything in the physical world, he can't even touch air itself, meaning that he's not bound by it. O.o

    , not the best comeback in this thread but it's something.
     
         

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