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    How did I miss these hints lol. share your look back

    1) http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/489/13

    You will battle a YOUNG man with great visual powers.

    The Sage Toad was talking about Obito ? Naruto thought he was talking about Sasuke, so Naruto interrupted him!?




    -and-

    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/490/4
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/490/5
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/490/6


    Here we see Kabuto and Tobi, right at the point where Kabuto reveals Madara Uchiha.
    On page 4, it's obvious that Kabuto knows that Tobi is not the actual Madara.
    On page 6, Tobi accepted Kabuto's offer and the fun part... Kabuto calls Tobi Uchiha Madara and Tobi basically admits that it's a joke.
    At the time of first reading that, we had no clue who it was (just rational guesses like perhaps Izuna)....

    But now it's so freaking obvious that Madara was in the casket from kabuto's joke to Tobi.




    If you have anything you've looked back on and thought - son of a turtle biscuit.... how did I not catch that, share!
     
         

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    Re: How did I miss these hints lol. share your look back

    Looking back I guess it was pretty damn obvious that Sakura would never progress as a character and that the Akatsuki were all going to be wiped out.
     
         

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    Re: How did I miss these hints lol. share your look back

    Quote Originally Posted by numbers View Post
    Looking back I guess it was pretty damn obvious that Sakura would never progress as a character and that the Akatsuki were all going to be wiped out.
    LOL
     
         

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    Re: How did I miss these hints lol. share your look back

    We still don't know about the Sage Toad's saying. Sasuke is supposed to surpass even Madara so it's still possible that the fight is between Naruto and Sasuke.

    Regarding the other part, I knew from the very first beginning that there was Madara. What I didn't understand was why Tobi freaked out as now he is very calm when Madara arrived AND now that I re-read the thing, what's with the "I haven't told a soul"? It's a figure of speech or something?

    And another question that popped-up now is... What interest could Obito have in Sasuke?
    There are plenty of thigs that don't add...
     
         

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    Re: How did I miss these hints lol. share your look back

    I know the Toad might have been discussing Sasuke, but with Naruto interrupting and the elder toad going "....." it fits perfectly as a hint...

    The sage may have been saying...

    You will fight a young man with great eye powers...
    then Madara shows up...
    then this....
    Then you will fight sasuke...

    never know naruto was RUDE.




    Quote Originally Posted by numbers View Post
    Looking back I guess it was pretty damn obvious that Sakura would never progress as a character and that the Akatsuki were all going to be wiped out.
    If you're going to try to be funny.... @least be accurate.

    So I hear you saying you didn't used to think Akatsuki would lose, despite being the "bad guys".....

    AND

    Sakura isn't on track to be a better ninja than Tsunade??.... well she is

    It was stated by Kakashi and proven throughout Gaara rescue and beyond.


    Double fail, yet people laughing @ ur post... so i guess it's a 3x or 5x or 10x fail
     
         
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    Re: How did I miss these hints lol. share your look back

    Quote Originally Posted by p0002q View Post
    I know the Toad might have been discussing Sasuke, but with Naruto interrupting and the elder toad going "....." it fits perfectly as a hint...

    The sage may have been saying...

    You will fight a young man with great eye powers...
    then Madara shows up...
    then this....
    Then you will fight sasuke...

    never know naruto was RUDE.
    And they ask themselves why Sakura punches him, lol. *inside joke*

    I agree with you as well, that's why I said it might be possible. Leaves open doors to anything.

    But still, can't answer myslef to the other 2 questions, lol.
    Or I am maybe seeing too much into this.
     
         

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    Re: How did I miss these hints lol. share your look back

    naruto always interrupts things about the identity of tobi lol.
     
         

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    Re: How did I miss these hints lol. share your look back

    Quote Originally Posted by Chatte View Post
    We still don't know about the Sage Toad's saying. Sasuke is supposed to surpass even Madara so it's still possible that the fight is between Naruto and Sasuke.

    Regarding the other part, I knew from the very first beginning that there was Madara. What I didn't understand was why Tobi freaked out as now he is very calm when Madara arrived AND now that I re-read the thing, what's with the "I haven't told a soul"? It's a figure of speech or something?

    And another question that popped-up now is... What interest could Obito have in Sasuke?
    There are plenty of thigs that don't add...
    ?

    supposed?

    i need to be shown where that was ever implied.

    the only thing we know of that hints of sasuke's progress is tobi's comment that "that even if sasuke becomes stronger than nagato, its point less if we dont control him".

    and sasuke hasnt come anywhere near nagato let alone madara in any shape or form.
     
         

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    Re: How did I miss these hints lol. share your look back

    Quote Originally Posted by Chatte View Post
    And they ask themselves why Sakura punches him, lol. *inside joke*

    I agree with you as well, that's why I said it might be possible. Leaves open doors to anything.

    But still, can't answer myslef to the other 2 questions, lol.
    Or I am maybe seeing too much into this.
    I do that too

    I was actually looking for the part in the manga where it's decided that there will be a shinobi allied force and Tsunade just recovering from Pein vs Leaf.
     
         

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    Re: How did I miss these hints lol. share your look back

    Quote Originally Posted by p0002q View Post
    I know the Toad might have been discussing Sasuke, but with Naruto interrupting and the elder toad going "....." it fits perfectly as a hint...

    The sage may have been saying...

    You will fight a young man with great eye powers...
    then Madara shows up...
    then this....
    Then you will fight sasuke...

    never know naruto was RUDE.






    If you're going to try to be funny.... @least be accurate.

    So I hear you saying you didn't used to think Akatsuki would lose, despite being the "bad guys".....

    AND

    Sakura isn't on track to be a better ninja than Tsunade??.... well she is

    It was stated by Kakashi and proven throughout Gaara rescue and beyond.


    Double fail, yet people laughing @ ur post... so i guess it's a 3x or 5x or 10x fail
    You make it even funnier by being so defensive LOL
     
         

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    Re: How did I miss these hints lol. share your look back

    Quote Originally Posted by psukkar View Post
    ?

    supposed?

    i need to be shown where that was ever implied.

    the only thing we know of that hints of sasuke's progress is tobi's comment that "that even if sasuke becomes stronger than nagato, its point less if we dont control him".

    and sasuke hasnt come anywhere near nagato let alone madara in any shape or form.
    Well, Shipuuden: "With that vision of yours and chakra more ominous than my own… You're the spitting image of Madara Uchiha from the elder days…" etc.

    And isn't Kishi teaching us that the new generation surpasses the old one?
     
         

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    Re: How did I miss these hints lol. share your look back

    I know right
     
         

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    Re: How did I miss these hints lol. share your look back

    Quote Originally Posted by p0002q View Post
    I do that too

    I was actually looking for the part in the manga where it's decided that there will be a shinobi allied force and Tsunade just recovering from Pein vs Leaf.
    I think that if I will start re-reading/watching naruto again, I am sure I will find even more things with biased meaning, lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sataniclion View Post
    You make it even funnier by being so defensive LOL
    You call defensive stating facts?
     
         

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    Re: How did I miss these hints lol. share your look back

    Quote Originally Posted by Chatte View Post
    I think that if I will start re-reading/watching naruto again, I am sure I will find even more things with biased meaning, lol.



    You call defensive stating facts?
    I re-read @ work from time to time.

    Which is where I'm @ now.

    I'm getting payed to state facts lol - I'll admit I get slightly irritated with the immature fail posts on the interwebz.... but I guess they have to exist so there is a difference between "good" and "dumb" posts.... I guess.

    I watch episodes over when I feed my 5 month old daughter

    Works perfectly!
     
         

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    Re: How did I miss these hints lol. share your look back

    Quote Originally Posted by p0002q View Post
    I re-read @ work from time to time.

    Which is where I'm @ now.

    I'm getting payed to state facts lol - I'll admit I get slightly irritated with the immature fail posts on the interwebz.... but I guess they have to exist so there is a difference between "good" and "dumb" posts.... I guess.

    I watch episodes over when I feed my 5 month old daughter

    Works perfectly!
    Aww, isn't that nice?
    I remember when I used to watch cartoons/anime with my dad.

    OMFG, I just discovered something...
    Gonna edit it in a bit.

    itachi here speaks about Uchiha Madara...



    Saying that he was his ally and teacher... (How could Obito be his teacher?)



    here he starts putting accent on the younger brother... implying Izuna.



    And where it gets interesting... Here Itachi implies that Madara took Izuna's eyes by force...



    yet Later, Tobi states that he gave them WILLINGLY! How would Obito know that?

     
         
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    Re: How did I miss these hints lol. share your look back

    I talked about a little bit of that in a thread :D

    it's in the bottom section of the OP.

    http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=241494
     
         

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    Re: How did I miss these hints lol. share your look back

    Ah yeah its kinda obvious the sage toad was talking about Obito and he said it straight after he said something about Killer Bee and we know they are both fighting Obito not Sasuke.
     
         

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    Re: How did I miss these hints lol. share your look back

    Gonna check it out.
    Edit: Check it out. But it still doesn't add to the fact that in the Izuna/Madara story, Zetsu wasn't there...
     
         
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    Re: How did I miss these hints lol. share your look back

    When Obito attacked the village and Minato, kakashi looked 15-16, and Rin wasn't around, so she must of died when kakashi was still in his teens, not being a strong and wise as he is now, how can Obito blame him for that.
    Why would obito, take up intense training, just to get back at an old friend who broke a promise, if that's where kishi is going with this, boooo..!
    I hope Naruto whoops Edo-Madara, show him he's not all top shit.

    #coolstory
     
         
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    Re: How did I miss these hints lol. share your look back

    Quote Originally Posted by Chatte View Post
    Well, Shipuuden: "With that vision of yours and chakra more ominous than my own… You're the spitting image of Madara Uchiha from the elder days…" etc.

    And isn't Kishi teaching us that the new generation surpasses the old one?
    and then edo Madara wipes the floor with the 5 kages... not to mention Orochimaru who will just not die.

    Kishi's fixation with that particular statement is one of the reasons which leads to many story problems, some times it's just doesn't work this way.

    other than that, considering that the kyubi seems to have also mistaken Obito for Madara... twice (and unless an explanation is given) i am taking his statement regarding Sasuke as a reference to his sharingan and chakra reserves and not as an indication that he will surpass Madara, which he will most likely do... in another random way.

    i am not trying to flame Sasuke or take his side, but for the time being he truly is not anywhere near Nagato's level and to be honest he might have the EMS but seems to have limited understanding of the sharingan as a dojutsu compared to more experienced Uchihas, even his brother who got as far as the MS, so technically a stage below Sasuke.

    Sasuke has a long way before him, especially to surpass Madara and if not in terms of raw power then definitely in terms of experience.
     
         

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    Re: How did I miss these hints lol. share your look back

    Quote Originally Posted by supino View Post
    and then edo Madara wipes the floor with the 5 kages... not to mention Orochimaru who will just not die.

    Kishi's fixation with that particular statement is one of the reasons which leads to many story problems, some times it's just doesn't work this way.

    other than that, considering that the kyubi seems to have also mistaken Obito for Madara... twice (and unless an explanation is given) i am taking his statement regarding Sasuke as a reference to his sharingan and chakra reserves and not as an indication that he will surpass Madara, which he will most likely do... in another random way.

    i am not trying to flame Sasuke or take his side, but for the time being he truly is not anywhere near Nagato's level and to be honest he might have the EMS but seems to have limited understanding of the sharingan as a dojutsu compared to more experienced Uchihas, even his brother who got as far as the MS, so technically a stage below Sasuke.

    Sasuke has a long way before him, especially to surpass Madara and if not in terms of raw power then definitely in terms of experience.
    I never said that he will do it now.
    I still don't buy this thing with Tobi being Obito, to be honest. When Kurama recognized Madara, he always said it loud and clear, only when he met Tobi he only said "You...". If it would've been Madara, I think that he would've adressed the same way as before... Thus implying it wasn't Madara back there, it was someone very similar to Madara that Kurama recognized.

    I tend to go for Izuna because he was said to be Madara's equal. Only that now he's in Obito's body. It would make more sense than anything else.
    And it will include Obito as well. Something very similar to this:



    This would explain Obito behaviour...

    Dunno, people might consider me how they want, but until Kishi is not 100% clear, not elusive, I have the right to still doubt things.

    This would explain the whole: You let Rin die...
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chatte View Post
    Gonna check it out.
    Edit: Check it out. But it still doesn't add to the fact that in the Izuna/Madara story, Zetsu wasn't there...
    I believe Madara dumped all his memories into Zetsu at a later date.

    Using Zetsu's recording ability.


    I still know there's a lot of explaining to be done - but imo, the Zetsu recording kinda thoughts are the key here.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by p0002q View Post
    I believe Madara dumped all his memories into Zetsu at a later date.

    Using Zetsu's recording ability.


    I still know there's a lot of explaining to be done - but imo, the Zetsu recording kinda thoughts are the key here.
    I agree with the part of Zetsu recording and dumping his memories, only that this doesn't come in handy with behavioural pattern. I mean, you can see my memories and stuff, ok, but how do you feel what I've felt that time?
    See what I mean?
     
         

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    Re: How did I miss these hints lol. share your look back

    Quote Originally Posted by Chatte View Post
    I never said that he will do it now.
    I still don't buy this thing with Tobi being Obito, to be honest. When Kurama recognized Madara, he always said it loud and clear, only when he met Tobi he only said "You...". If it would've been Madara, I think that he would've adressed the same way as before... Thus implying it wasn't Madara back there, it was someone very similar to Madara that Kurama recognized.

    I tend to go for Izuna because he was said to be Madara's equal. Only that now he's in Obito's body. It would make more sense than anything else.
    And it will include Obito as well. Something very similar to this:



    This would explain Obito behaviour...

    Dunno, people might consider me how they want, but until Kishi is not 100% clear, not elusive, I have the right to still doubt things.

    This would explain the whole: You let Rin die...
    don't mind me, i just prefer to see some character development for Sasuke which imo he lacks for the time being even though he has an interesting background and some unique traits.

    Kurama did seem to recognise him though and considering that Madara was the last Uchiha he saw before getting sealed by Mito... not many options here...

    as for the rest, you are right. I, too, did not believe Tobi=Obito and obviously there are still many problems and inconsistencies with this version... but it just gets too damn complicated for no actual reason!
     
         

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    Re: How did I miss these hints lol. share your look back

    It should have been obvious to me that the "mistakes" were not mistakes but reveals of what is really happening. What value does it bring the storyline to suddenly have Jiraiya remember that he is Naruto's godfather? I am ashamed.
     
         

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