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    Re: Sannin vs. Taka

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuusaki View Post
    I like how people determine skills and results of future battles from previous battles with out taking factors like luck, coincidence and situation into the equation.

    C'mon, Naruto would never have beaten pain if he hadn't decided to use largescale shinra tensei right before going up against his sage mode. Naruto in Jiraiyas situation would never have won up against Pein. Suggesting that Sasuke beating Oro in the state he was there and then would ultimately mean he's stronger than Oro is bullshit (Sasuke defeating all three sannins 1v1 >_>?) And the most ridiculous statement ever: Karin and Suigetsu would defeat Jiraiya... LOL?

    Take the scenario into account as well.
    I agree with you, but you are also forgetting the "situation" from this equation. Naruto would have done it, because he's a main character. Everyone else left it to him.

    Anyways, I think Jiraya is stronger than Orochimaru. People say that in their first fight when they defected that Orochimaru won. We don't even know the details of the fight. The 2nd fight was an Orochimaru without drugs vs a Jiraya who was drugged by Tsunade. It's true that Oro couldn't use jutsu, but he could still mold his chakra to his feet and mouth. It seems that half of his jutsu comes from the latter... and the last thing is that Orochimaru fought on an even level with 4 tailed Naruto, while Jiraya got hurt badly. But they forget the context that Jiraya mentioned this in. The Toad Key said that when the seal was tweaked the chakra burst forth and pushed Narutos chakra aside. It seems to me that this caught Jiraya totally off guard, and he wasn't even in Hermit Mode. Oro on the other hand got to watch Naruto hit him in one tail mode, and create a huge sphere of destruction in three tailed mode, so he was plenty prepared. Orochimaru is stronger than Sasuke, because when Karin mentioned that Sasuke beat him, he replied with "Orochimaru was already weak, thats all."

    Now if Orochimaru is stronger than Sasuke, how well would he do against a Sage mode Jiraya? It's true. He has the Mangekyo Sharingan now. He has Amaterasu, possibly Tsukiyomi, but we don't know that yet. We DO NOT know what other techniques he has in his eyes. It's been hinted that the Mangekyo Sharingan has a range of different powers. That would explain Kakashis Kamui technique, and possibly Madaras space/time jutsu. What we know about Amaterasu is that it burns anything on the focal point, but as we know...Hermit Mode increases speed. When Itachi used Amaterasu on Sasuke, he was seen to be able to outrun it briefly before it caught up to him. I believe that Hermit Mode Jiraya is faster then the speed Sasuke was running when Amaterasu was chasing him. We do not know if Jiraya could manage to get behind Sasuke and hit him with that Needle Jizo Jutsu, and that would probably stop him from continued use of Amaterasu.

    About Suigetsu and Juugo, Orochimaru used them as EXPERIMENTS. So I'm sure he had strength to keep them in line at least separately. However, we don't know the full extent of their powers. I have reason to believe that Suigetsu could give Sasuke a decent fight if he fought hard enough.

    Karin...she can sense chakra and heal well. We haven't really seen her in combat yet, other then when she punches Suigetsu. Tsunade could probably take her down from what we have seen. Then after her she could help Orochimaru with Suigetsu and Juugo. Then they could help Jiraya with Sasuke (supposing he hasn't taken him out already).
     
         

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    Re: Sannin vs. Taka

    Quote Originally Posted by kabumaru View Post
    if she was at full powre she could not only kill at least one body but the strongest god realm Naruto 429 page 01 | One Manga

    and how would j-man counter the c4 garuda he doesnt have the advantage that uchihas have
    He's Jiraya, one of the Sannin. He has experience with these things.
     
         

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    Re: Sannin vs. Taka

    Quote Originally Posted by eyesofthekyuubi44 View Post
    He's Jiraya, one of the Sannin. He has experience with these things.
    so u think he's encountered microscopic bombs before
     
         

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    Re: Sannin vs. Taka

    Quote Originally Posted by kabumaru View Post
    so u think he's encountered microscopic bombs before
    Maybe not. But probably a similar technique and a way to avoid it. No point arguing with me, I already think I'm right and you won't change anything.
     
         

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    Re: Sannin vs. Taka

    I APPREcIATE youR honesty
     
         

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    Re: Sannin vs. Taka

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    I APPREcIATE youR honesty
    Thank you.
     
         

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    Re: Sannin vs. Taka

    Wtf is this thread. Only j-man can handle taka by himself, with pa and ma on is shoulder no chance for them at all.
     
         

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    Re: Sannin vs. Taka

    Easy win for the Sannin.
     
         

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    Re: Sannin vs. Taka

    sage mode will whip them like whiping your ass when you done taking a shit.
     
         

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    Re: Sannin vs. Taka

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuusaki View Post
    I like how people determine skills and results of future battles from previous battles with out taking factors like luck, coincidence and situation into the equation.

    C'mon, Naruto would never have beaten pain if he hadn't decided to use largescale shinra tensei right before going up against his sage mode. Naruto in Jiraiyas situation would never have won up against Pein. Suggesting that Sasuke beating Oro in the state he was there and then would ultimately mean he's stronger than Oro is bullshit (Sasuke defeating all three sannins 1v1 >_>?) And the most ridiculous statement ever: Karin and Suigetsu would defeat Jiraiya... LOL?

    Take the scenario into account as well.

    People also forget that even after Pain took on all of the top ninja of Konaho and used massive amounts of chakra, and even after Naruto shows up fully prepared with 2 sage mode clones waiting in myozubaka (spelling not right at all), Pain still beat Naruto 1v1. Everybody loves to forget how Naruto was pinned down and Pain was about to drag him away until Hinata had to go and do something.
     
         

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    Re: Sannin vs. Taka

    Quote Originally Posted by Nanaki View Post
    People also forget that even after Pain took on all of the top ninja of Konaho and used massive amounts of chakra, and even after Naruto shows up fully prepared with 2 sage mode clones waiting in myozubaka (spelling not right at all), Pain still beat Naruto 1v1. Everybody loves to forget how Naruto was pinned down and Pain was about to drag him away until Hinata had to go a nd do something.
    yes Naruto & Sasuke hav both been very lucky in part 2
    but tis is easy sanin how can anyone say Taka there jus saying taka because its sasuke team then there bring 3 fights tat sasuke got lucky dont get me wrong I said Sasuke vs Deidra was my favourite fight on my thread and in my personal opion Sasuke vs Itachi was better then Naruto vs Pein but come on Orochimaru was weaken Deidra killed himself & Itachi wanted Sasuke 2 beat him they aint a gr8 track sheet if 1 on 1 Sasuke might beat 1 of them but all of taka vs the sannin tats lik Manchester United under 16 vs Manchester United they jus hav no chance im jus happy most people r being real
     
         
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    Re: Sannin vs. Taka

    Quote Originally Posted by Nanaki View Post
    People also forget that even after Pain took on all of the top ninja of Konaho and used massive amounts of chakra, and even after Naruto shows up fully prepared with 2 sage mode clones waiting in myozubaka (spelling not right at all), Pain still beat Naruto 1v1. Everybody loves to forget how Naruto was pinned down and Pain was about to drag him away until Hinata had to go and do something.
    We DONT know though what would have happened if she DIDN'T. He still could've gone Kyuubi and broke out of those rods. Unless we are shown the other option we don't know what would have happened. We can make predictions. What you said is like me saying, "Oh Naruto's clones coulda turned into a frog while gathering Natural energy, and Naruto had to concentrate so hard on Sage Mode that he got a headache and that handicapped him...blah blah blah".
     
         

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    Re: Sannin vs. Taka

    it would be a good fight sasuke vs orochimaru,suigetsu and juugo vs J-man,tsunade vs karin
     
         

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    Re: Sannin vs. Taka

    The Sannin would win. Easily.

    Neither Suigetsu nor Sasuke could defeat Orochimaru, and it's pretty clear that neither Juugo nor Karin could.

    Although Sasuke killed Orochimaru, Orochimaru was extremely sick, about to die, etc. Suigetsu was basically captured and experimented upon by Orochimaru for years, he couldn't kill him. And Karin and Juugo also had chances to kill Oro, and didn't.

    Orochimaru is only the second strongest sannin. Jiraiya's the strongest, and Tsunade is third strongest. Tsunade's only the third because of her focus on healing jutsus. She's important in that way.

    The Sannin would win... I don't feel like doing further analysis
     
         

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    Re: Sannin vs. Taka

    The question isnt who would win but how long it would take for the sannin to win
     
         

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    Re: Sannin vs. Taka

    Quote Originally Posted by KenseiTachikage View Post
    it would be a good fight sasuke vs orochimaru,suigetsu and juugo vs J-man,tsunade vs karin
    man tsunade is gonna have a lot of free time
     
         

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    Re: Sannin vs. Taka

    What the hell taka or kaka or baka dont stand a chance
     
         

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    Re: Sannin vs. Taka

    Quote Originally Posted by Vengeance View Post
    What the hell taka or kaka or baka dont stand a chance
    only if they win by forftit because the sannin absolutely refuse to waste 1 minute and 12 seconds of their almost immortal lives on oro's ex guanea pigs
    lol
     
         

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