Re: Marvel - The next batch of movies for Avengers 2
What the hell are you talking and mismatching things?
Originally Posted by Xylon
Sony had Spiderman rights since 2000s and the Sam Raimi's trilogy and the reboot are all productions of Sony. Why are claiming that Sony has the guts to initiate a proper reboot where they were also behind the travesty of Spiderman3. In fact, praising Sony's sticking to original comics is far-fetched. True, they did that well with the new reboot of Amazing Spiderman but still, these are the same distributors who gave us Spiderman' trilogy. X-Men and Fantastic Four's movie rights are owned by Fox; somewhat the same situation as Spiderman with Sony. Compared to Marvel [Iron Man (2008), The Incredible Hulk (2008), Iron Man 2 (2010), Thor (2011), Captain America: The First Avenger (2011), and The Avengers (2012)], I sincerely think Marvel Studios' movies has been truer than Sony/Fox superheroes movies.
You say, Marvel struggles and fails but the fact is that Marvel movies have been pretty true to themselves. We need to clear it off that when I'm talking about Marvel produced-movies, I'm talking about the films distributed by Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) which got associations with Walt Disney, Paramount Pictures (Viacom) and Universal Pictures.
I do agree with you that the movies messed up big time with many storylines; especially F4, Spiderman 3 and X-Men 3. That being said, it's wrong to accuse Marvel Studios of screwing their movies' adaptations. Yes, there are some glitches in Capt. America, Iron Man ect.. but overall, it has stay true to most part of the storyline. You say that Marvel altered storyline but that's not really case if you ask me. They weren't behind X-Men or Spiderman or Fantastic Four ect...or rather, they barely had any implications in its storyline execution. It was a 'I Sell the comics right, I Count my money, you Make movie' situation with Sony/Fox. This haste in selling the rights was mainly because Marvel Studios were going bankrupt in 1998. The Viacom association actually was the true birth of Marvel Comics into cinema. Unfortunately, many opportunities have been lost in precipitation (and bankruptcy fear) by then.
I do also agree with you that Iron Man has been a game-changer but not to forget that Iron Man were the first production of MCU and that itself, shows a difference. My point of view remains that Marvel Studios' track record (as stated above) has been very good and that they sold Spiderman or X-Men or F-4 rights way too fast.
Had they been able to do the deal with Paramount Pictures earlier, they could have provided us, cinema-folks, a complete new world of superheroes. Imagine MCU being able to do movies on Spiderman, X-Men, Fantastic Four, Ghost Rider, Hellboy, Daredevil, Elektra ect.. I'm not even sure if they still got rights on Blade or The Punisher.
Spiderman and many other characters from it, are a big part of Avengers comics and for me, it'll remain a missed cinematic opportunity, if we never see Spidey with the remaining Avengers. Sure, I liked the reboot of Spiderman but still, it might has been equally as good in the hands of MCU.