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    Obito|Naruto similarities & Madara never met Obito until recently - theory

    [The things that are NOT proven are a theory]

    The upbringing: (sorry as it’s rather obvious for the most part, but still necessary)

    Naruto & Obito:
    Grew up not knowing their parents, or Obito was not raised by both of his maternal parents. (explained later, but I lean towards Obito not knowing any parenal figure)

    Naruto & Obito:
    Because they had no one to recognize\acknowledge them, they decided their goal would be to become hokage to be acknowledged by everyone.

    Naruto & Obito:
    They both enrolled in the ninja academy, with their hokage goal in mind.
    Naruto got paired up with Sasuke and Sakura. His “rival” and his crush.
    Obito got paired up with Kakashi and Rin. His “rival” and his crush.
    And of course, both girls liked the rivals of Naruto and Obito.

    Naruto:
    As time went on, Sasuke and Naruto became friends and respected one another. Naruto became truly happy.

    Obito:
    Shared a similar walk with Naruto. Except when Kakashi and Obito finally showed a friendship and respect for one another, Obito “”””died”””” shortly after.

    From here their paths begin to look much different, however they both stick to their goals and hopes.
    Obito’s hope and “final” wish was that Kakashi use his eye and protect Rin.
    Naruto’s hope is to save Sasuke and protect him from all the people that want to kill him.

    Obito:
    Rin died, so Obito’s “final” wish was crumbled – he had nothing left to live for, and carried a grudge against the shinobi world’s system and Kakashi for “letting” Rin die.
    Naruto:
    Sasuke didn’t die, but there have been multiple times where Naruto has felt depressed, wanted to give up or other negative emotions because he was not able to save Sasuke.

    Naruto met his parents during critical moments in his life (full 9 tails transformation and training to control 9Tails)

    Obito met his dad through Zetsu, explained below


    Some Obito theories to explain:


    Madara never knew Obito personally. (that’s the theory I lean towards as it matches Naruto's upbringing with his parents)
    Madara died after giving Nagato the rinnegan.

    Madara used Zetsu’s recording ability to record the following:
    1. His DNA
    2. Training instructions
    3. Massive amounts of information
    4. “The moon’s eye plan”
    5. and who knows what else.
    6. and a name for his son.

    So between the time of Madara dying and Obito “dying”:
    Zetsu was trusted by Madara to carry on the plan of ‘creating’ a new Madara from Obito, aka Tobi.
    (I also believe that during the time gap between Obito and Madara, Zetsu used his famous shapeshifting ability to pose as Madara until Obito was around)

    Obito IS madara’s son, but Madara was not around.
    Zetsu was tasked to use Madara’s DNA to make Madara’s son. (PG please… lol … we all know zetsu has weird parasitic abilities as it is)

    Zetsu was tasked to secretly watch the upbringing of Obito and when the time was right, start changing Obito into Tobi, aka Madara Jr.

    Of course the Tobi process began when Obito “died”.

    After Zetsu repaired Obito, all of the information left behind by Madara was recorded \ played \ shared with Obito’s brain. Thus quickly creating “Madara Jr”
    This explains why Obito was able to not get insta killed by Minato, and why Obito was able to summon\teleport the 9Tails.
    Madara provided all this to Zetsu, who then gave it to Obito.

    The rest is pretty much known.

    Obito possesses the same knowledge as Madara, was molded to act as if he was Madara and still carries the memories of himself, aka the kasha \ rin stuff.
     
         

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    Re: Obito|Naruto similarities & Madara never met Obito until recently - theory

    I lost all interest when you speculated a Father/Son relation between Obito & Madara.
     
         

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    Re: Obito|Naruto similarities & Madara never met Obito until recently - theory

    While I appreciate your research and enthusiam, I'm totally burned out as far as tobi/obito/madara threads are concerned. I say we all just sit back and see what happens.
     
         

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    Re: Obito|Naruto similarities & Madara never met Obito until recently - theory

    ehh?? Obito is Madara's son? It's too far-fetched in terms of age. If Tsunade is the grand-daughter of Hashirama, then Obito, with his age, should be grand-grandson of Madara, right?
     
         

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    Re: Obito|Naruto similarities & Madara never met Obito until recently - theory

    Age is irrelevant....

    I specifically stated Madara died shortly after giving Nagato the rinnegan.

    And I stated Zetsu was the one who passed on Madara's DNA...

    )EDIT(

    I'm trying to use factual skillsets (like zetsu recording) with facts from the manga

    Madara landed next to Obito and knew his name.... I answer that in my theory as he told Zetsu to name his future child "Obito" and left instructions for his Obito.

    The time gap thing is not an issue with Zetsu being trusted to create a Madara II.

    EDIT 2:

    Also making Obito very comparable to Naruto in their childhoods is moreso from a creative writing standpoint, but it all fits rather simply.

    Every idea in my theory that isn't proven = very easy for the characters to do. (It really isn't far fetched @ all)
     
         
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    Re: Obito|Naruto similarities & Madara never met Obito until recently - theory

    My bad. I thought you were implying direct father-son relation. If it is as you said, it might be possible.. Probably Orochimaru was involved as well! After all, he is the DNA specialist of his generation.. =]
     
         

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    Re: Obito|Naruto similarities & Madara never met Obito until recently - theory

    It's all good - and I also think Maru was involved in some stuff, but not the biological aspects.

    I also think Black Zetsu was created by Madara using Hashirama's cells on his brother corpse.

    He tried to bring his brother back to life, but failed... He basically just re-animated Izuna's corpse.
    (To me that explains the recording ability of Black Zetsu)

    We also know white zetsu, as stated by Sakura is an alternate ego of Hashirama himself.
     
         

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    Re: Obito|Naruto similarities & Madara never met Obito until recently - theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Simple Math View Post
    agreed
    sweet - thanks for sharing. same for the OP u agreed 2.

    sad that the whole post was overlooked because you apparently don't like that concept.
     
         

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