View Poll Results: Tsunade= Orochimaru= Jiraiya

Voters
24. You may not vote on this poll
  • I agree

    11 45.83%
  • I disagree

    13 54.17%
Page 1 of 3 123 Last»
Results 1 to 25 of 70
  1. #1
    Godaime Hokage Slug Princess Tsunade's Avatar
    Status
    Slug Princess Tsunade is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Under a f***ing tree
    Posts
    7,127
    Post Thanks / Like
    "You are my disciple so
    you'll inherit the power of a
    Sannin"
     

    Tsunade= Orochimaru= Jiraiya [READ]


    Slug, Snake, Toad

    Sounds familiar? Yep, those are the summonings of the Legendary Sannin - Jiraiya, Orochimaru and Tsunade.

    Why these three animals? There is another reason from Japanese legends. I'm sure everybody knows the game "Scissors, Paper, Stone" (also known as Janken in Japanese) where the scissors cuts paper, paper covers stone and the stone smashes the scissors. The Slug, Snake, Toad works in the same concept.

    In this variation, the Frog is afriad of the Snake, the Snake is afriad of the Slug and the Slug is afriad of the Frog. This is influenced by the Sansukumi way of thinking where it keeps the 3 objects in a deadlock. The fact that the Sannins use these 3 animals as summons may be the author hinting that there is no stronger one among them, and that their strength are more or less equal.


    According to this they are more or less equals. Tsunade ( Slug) > Orochimaru ( Snake) > Jiraiya ( Toad)> Tsunade ( Slug), etc.
     
         

  2. #2
    Banned
    Status
    Henrik is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    3,308
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Tsunade= Orochimaru= Jiraiya [READ]

    Orochimaru = Jiraya > Tsunade. Or it is Orochimaru > Jiraya > Tsunade.
     
         

  3. #3
    oath ziggyZ's Avatar
    Status
    ziggyZ is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    back of your mind
    Posts
    7,412
    Post Thanks / Like
    egg
     



    Re: Tsunade= Orochimaru= Jiraiya [READ]

    Oath.
     
         

  4. #4
    ReZaKaGe Rezakage's Avatar
    Status
    Rezakage is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    4th World War
    Posts
    374
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Tsunade= Orochimaru= Jiraiya [READ]

    Nice
     
         

  5. #5
    Kung fu is a way of life Kirikoe's Avatar
    Status
    Kirikoe is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    under your bed xD
    Posts
    6,703
    Post Thanks / Like
    the 3 rules of flow - Go with
    the flow - Merge with the flow
    - Disrupt the flow -
     

    Re: Tsunade= Orochimaru= Jiraiya [READ]

    i agree with u, i dont think people read into the japanese myths and legends sometimes... i advise it as it will defo give u a better understandign of the manga

    +rep
     
         

  6. #6
    Senior Member Sexy Steel's Avatar
    Status
    Sexy Steel is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    1,228
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Tsunade= Orochimaru= Jiraiya [READ]

    Edo tensei > jiraya (sm) > tsunade
     
         
    Last edited by Sexy Steel; 09-12-2012 at 02:12 PM.

  7. #7
    Banned
    Status
    Henrik is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    3,308
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Tsunade= Orochimaru= Jiraiya [READ]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirikoe View Post
    i agree with u, i dont think people read into the japanese myths and legends sometimes... i advise it as it will defo give u a better understandign of the manga

    +rep
    Orochimaru have Edo tensei, end of discussion
     
         

  8. #8
    Don't front. OnPoint's Avatar
    Status
    OnPoint is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Trophies.
    Posts
    4,262
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Tsunade= Orochimaru= Jiraiya [READ]

    Tsunade is more of a support shinobi. She's not made for the front line (like Jiraiya and Orochimaru are). The three of them are equal interms of skill/being a shinobi (in different aspects), but they're not equal in strength.
     
         

  9. #9
    Senior Member Sexy Steel's Avatar
    Status
    Sexy Steel is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    1,228
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Tsunade= Orochimaru= Jiraiya [READ]

    Quote Originally Posted by Noddy View Post
    Tsunade is more of a support shinobi. She's not made for the front line (like Jiraiya and Orochimaru are). The three of them are equal interms of skill/being a shinobi (in different aspects), but they're not equal in strength.
    Tsunade is exempt from all 3 medical ninja restrictions or whatever she is allowed to fight
     
         

  10. #10
    Senior Member blackbird31468's Avatar
    Status
    blackbird31468 is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    2,725
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Tsunade= Orochimaru= Jiraiya [READ]

    Why in the world would the Snake be afriad of the Slug?
     
         

  11. #11
    Don't front. OnPoint's Avatar
    Status
    OnPoint is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Trophies.
    Posts
    4,262
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Tsunade= Orochimaru= Jiraiya [READ]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sexy Steel View Post
    Tsunade is exempt from all 3 medical ninja restrictions or whatever she is allowed to fight
    What are you talking about? Did I say Tsunade cannot fight?
     
         

  12. #12
    Sasuke Uchiha venuboppudi's Avatar
    Status
    venuboppudi is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Uttarpradesh, India
    Posts
    388
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Tsunade= Orochimaru= Jiraiya [READ]

    in words they are equal but in strength i don't think so
     
         

  13. #13
    Senior Member Sexy Steel's Avatar
    Status
    Sexy Steel is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    1,228
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Tsunade= Orochimaru= Jiraiya [READ]

    Quote Originally Posted by Noddy View Post
    What are you talking about? Did I say Tsunade cannot fight?
    U said she isn't made for the front line yet she fought with madara during the war ur point ?
     
         

  14. #14
    Kaika Saisei 開花再生 Chatte's Avatar
    Status
    Chatte is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Here and there.
    Posts
    10,236
    Post Thanks / Like
    Nothing much.
     



    Re: Tsunade= Orochimaru= Jiraiya [READ]

    Yup. Is like the theory of the chair with 3 legs. The best balance is found in the chair with 3 legs, not in that of 4 legs. I think some of you learned that at maths classes, lol.

    So it's like one cannot stand without the other 2 but neither those 2 can stand without that one, nor one by one could do.

    It's the same thing with Slug, Snake, Toad OR Rock, Scissors, Paper.
     
         

  15. #15
    Missing Nin SashaUchiha's Avatar
    Status
    SashaUchiha is online now
    Gender
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Here
    Posts
    2,232
    Post Thanks / Like
    Unyielding
     

    Re: Tsunade= Orochimaru= Jiraiya [READ]

    ... I said that like 2 months back...

    so yeah, I agree with you!
     
         

  16. #16
    Don't front. OnPoint's Avatar
    Status
    OnPoint is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Trophies.
    Posts
    4,262
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Tsunade= Orochimaru= Jiraiya [READ]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sexy Steel View Post
    U said she isn't made for the front line yet she fought with madara during the war ur point ?
    She isn't primarily a front line fighter, she's a medical nin
     
         

  17. #17
    Kaika Saisei 開花再生 Chatte's Avatar
    Status
    Chatte is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    Here and there.
    Posts
    10,236
    Post Thanks / Like
    Nothing much.
     



    Re: Tsunade= Orochimaru= Jiraiya [READ]

    Quote Originally Posted by Noddy View Post
    She isn't primarily a front line fighter, she's a medical nin
    That is because she chose to be it like that. But as we've seen, if she decides, she can go on the front lines as well.
     
         

  18. #18
    Don't front. OnPoint's Avatar
    Status
    OnPoint is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Trophies.
    Posts
    4,262
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Tsunade= Orochimaru= Jiraiya [READ]

    Quote Originally Posted by Chatte View Post
    That is because she chose to be it like that. But as we've seen, if she decides, she can go on the front lines as well.
    Regardless, i'm simply stating that she is primarily a medical nin, whereas Orochimaru and Jiraiya are more suited to fighting on the front line. I never said Tsunade was incapable of doing so, simply pointing out that it's not what she specializes in.
     
         

  19. #19
    Senior Member Sexy Steel's Avatar
    Status
    Sexy Steel is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    1,228
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Tsunade= Orochimaru= Jiraiya [READ]

    Quote Originally Posted by Noddy View Post
    She isn't primarily a front line fighter, she's a medical nin
    That what I was saying she is a medical nin yes they are support types but she can defy the rules of the medical nin.
     
         

  20. #20
    JIRAIYA perv's Avatar
    Status
    JIRAIYA perv is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    4,583
    Post Thanks / Like
    "It is the mark of an
    educated mind to be able to
    entertain a thought without
    accepting it"
     

    Re: Tsunade= Orochimaru= Jiraiya [READ]

    they are all strong in their own way, but i have to say that oro and jiraiya are better in combat (tsunade is a medic so she is important but still a medic) but that doesn't mean that tsunade is weak (she is a sannin) .... so her combat skills are great but not as good as jiraiya's or oro's .... every one has a role in a team
     
         

  21. #21
    Senior Member blackbird31468's Avatar
    Status
    blackbird31468 is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    2,725
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Tsunade= Orochimaru= Jiraiya [READ]

    Quote Originally Posted by Chatte View Post
    Yup. Is like the theory of the chair with 3 legs. The best balance is found in the chair with 3 legs, not in that of 4 legs. I think some of you learned that at maths classes, lol.

    So it's like one cannot stand without the other 2 but neither those 2 can stand without that one, nor one by one could do.

    It's the same thing with Slug, Snake, Toad OR Rock, Scissors, Paper.
    But how does a snake lose to a slug?
     
         

  22. #22
    Senior Member Exaar's Avatar
    Status
    Exaar is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Posts
    9,428
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Tsunade= Orochimaru= Jiraiya [READ]

    Summoning wise katsuyu > Manda > gamabunta.

    This doesn't prove anything.

    Tsunade isn't a Slug, Jiraiya isn't a toad and well Oro.... Don't know what the fuck he is , But the Slug > snake > Toad doesn't apply to the sannin themselves, just their summonings.
     
         

  23. #23
    Banned
    Status
    Trump Card is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Jamaica
    Posts
    1,141
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Tsunade= Orochimaru= Jiraiya [READ]

    sannins are equal, enough said
     
         

  24. #24
    Godaime Hokage Slug Princess Tsunade's Avatar
    Status
    Slug Princess Tsunade is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Under a f***ing tree
    Posts
    7,127
    Post Thanks / Like
    "You are my disciple so
    you'll inherit the power of a
    Sannin"
     

    Re: Tsunade= Orochimaru= Jiraiya [READ]

    Quote Originally Posted by Trump Card View Post
    sannins are equal, enough said
    Yeah.
     
         

  25. #25
    Senior Member Baka Sennin's Avatar
    Status
    Baka Sennin is offline
    Gender
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Malta
    Posts
    3,754
    Post Thanks / Like
    This user has no status.
     

    Re: Tsunade= Orochimaru= Jiraiya [READ]

    yup pretty much. naruto is rooted in mythology, itachi is orochimaru's mortal enemy in japanese mythology for instance (weasels kill snakes, susanoo killed yamata no orochi, the totsuka sword is the only counter to the sword of kusanagi etc).

    anyway, the toad>slug>snake>toad dynamic is pretty simple. acid won't work on toads, while oil fuelled flames will obliterate a slug. acid will work on snakes while biting and constriction won't harm the slug. and flames and blunt/piercing damage won't kill a snake capable of shedding it's skin, while constriction and bites will kill the toad.

    and even in the manga, the dynamic between the sannin was made quite clear. jiraiya never managed to beat oro, tsunade trashed orochimaru, and jiraiya confidently stated he would kill tsunade if she betrayed konoha, which was why tsunade drugged him.

    imo these little hints paint a far clearer picture of what kishi intends than feats, which are purely circumstantial and can be interpreted subjectively.
     
         

Page 1 of 3 123 Last»

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •